Topic: [GLBSE] FOO.PPPPT - Perpetual Pure Pirate Pass-Through Bonds - 7% weekly - page 7. (Read 12842 times)
May 22, 2012, 02:30:25 PM
Please don't forget there will be trade fees associated with selling your IPO shares (as you will be a taker). This just caused a lot of confusion with the TYGRR-P IPO.
May 22, 2012, 02:09:11 PM
Contract, signed with my -otc gpg key (0xDF0E3996):
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FOO.PPPPT Contract / Terms and conditions:
At least 1 BTC per bond sold will be deposited with the issuer's account in Bitcoin Savings and Trust (BTCST) (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-savings-and-trust-home-closed-50822). Each bond will be paid out a weekly coupon not later than 24 hours after BTCST pays out interest on the account. The value of the weekly coupon will be exactly x% of 1 BTC, where x is the interest rate that the total value of bonds issued receives from the underlying investment. If interest rates or tiers change in the future, I will make every effort (i.e., issue enough bonds) to attract the highest interest rate possible from BTCST. The current amount invested, and corresponding interest rate will always be published on the bitcointalk.org forum thread for this bond (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/glbse-fooppppt-perpetual-pure-pirate-pass-through-bonds-7-weekly-83013). If BTCST defaults on the loan, or otherwise returns the funds for any reason, the bonds will be bought back for exactly the fraction of principal that is returned, if any. No on-demand buyback option will be provided. I reserve the right to call for a buy back of all outstanding bonds at a rate of 1 BTC + one week's worth of interest at any time. I do not assume any liability or provide any insurance for loss of these funds by BTCST. Please do your own due diligence before investing, and never invest more than you can afford to lose!
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FOO.PPPPT Contract / Terms and conditions:
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May 22, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
UPDATE: FOO.PPPPT is now owned and managed by brendio: see this thread for details. Most of the information below is likely to be outdated.
Original post:
Since Pirate Pass-through bonds are the flavor of the month, I'm rolling out my own. Announcing FOO.PPPPT: the "Perpetual Pure Pirate Pass-Through" bond. Here is the asset on GLBSE: https://glbse.com/asset/view/FOO.PPPPT
Each bond represents 1 BTC invested in Bitcoin Savings & Trust.
tl;dr: Pirate bonds, weekly 7% coupon payments. No fees, no commissions, no frantic bidding every week, no insurance, just pure Pirate! This is as close as it gets to the real deal (maybe even better).
The story is simple: I currently have 500 BTC with Pirate/BTCST, earning 5.6% a week. I want to bump up my interest rate. Hence I am auctioning off the remaining space in my account through GLBSE. I will sell 1500 bonds at 1 BTC each on the 28th of May, 2012 at 11:00 EDT (GLBSE time).
A total of 2000 bonds will be issued, and I will keep 500 myself, to represent my portion of the investment. Our interest rate will always be the interest that would be received at BTCST by the total value of bonds issued. Currently this means that I will pay out 7% a week, even if all bonds do not sell during IPO. I will always publicly disclose the total number of issued bonds. The address at which BTCST pays our interest will also be disclosed. I reserve the right to sell the bonds I hold at any time, buy more bonds from the open market, or deposit more money with BTCST and issue myself bonds for the same.
I will do pre-IPO sales of minimum 100 bonds at 1 BTC each. At least 750 bonds will be reserved for sale during the IPO itself. All pre-IPO bonds have been reserved.
FAQ:
Pirate? BTCST? WTF are you talking about?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-savings-and-trust-home-closed-50822
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-pirate-82849
What's in it for you?
Aren't you losing money by doing this with no commissions?
A little bit. There's the IPO fee of 8 BTC, and the trade fee on 1500 bonds is 7.5 BTC. However, the potentially increased interest rates from BTCST means that I can recover this loss in 2 weeks, and then gain further out. This keeps the interest pass-through simple (and "pure") as opposed to taking a cut off the initial bond sale or interest payments like the other bond issuers. If you're paying any kind of fee to deposit coins with pirate, you should be demanding some insurance as well. Which leads me to...
Do you offer any insurance?
No. If BTCST defaults and runs away with our money, we lose everything. If pirate returns a portion of our coins, I will buy back the bonds for exactly the fraction of principal that is returned.
When do you pay interest / coupons?
Almost always the same day, never more than 24 hours after BTCST pays out. Currently, interest payments from BTCST are due every Monday at 13:00 EDT. Since the IPO is 2 hours before this date, you will lose 2 hours of interest for the first week, this gives me enough time to move the money into BTCST. You have to be holding the bond at the time of coupon payment, i.e. payments are not pro-rated.
How many more bonds will you issue?
I am currently only issuing enough bonds (1500) to get to the next interest rate tier. I do not intend to issue any further bonds, unless I feel there is significant demand, in which case any further bonds issued will be priced slightly higher. This one-time issuance keeps my overhead low, allowing me to pass through all the interest to you. Of course, if BTCST's interest rate tiers change, I will always strive to reach the top interest rate offered by issuing more bonds.
Will you buy back my bonds if I want out?
For the moment, no. Withdrawing money from the account would cause a drop in interest rates. If you PM me, I might be able to do it using my own BTC liquidity. However, this cannot be guaranteed, especially for large amounts. Buy this bond if you want to deposit some BTC and receive steady payments. Of course, the benefit of GLBSE is that you can put your bonds up for sale at any time, I'm sure people will grab them if the price is right.
Who are you, why should I trust you?
Good question. I have been in the Bitcoin community for a year now. Almost 20 of those 365 days have been spent on this forum (*gulp*). I also lurk on a bunch of bitcoin IRC channels. Come Friday, I will be verified with GLBSE. I will gladly disclose (and can prove) my real identity in PM (if you're planning to buy bonds pre-IPO). My real-world job involves doing research with tax-payer money, and publishing papers. In this field, reputation is everything and I wouldn't do anything to tarnish it.
Is pirateat40 ok with having millions of pass-through bond issuers?
I don't know about millions, but I have his personal blessing to issue this bond.
How old is your account with BTCST?
December 15, 2011.
All discussions, comments, and brickbats welcome. I will update the OP to clarify. Contract terms are coming up in the following post.
Original post:
Since Pirate Pass-through bonds are the flavor of the month, I'm rolling out my own. Announcing FOO.PPPPT: the "Perpetual Pure Pirate Pass-Through" bond. Here is the asset on GLBSE: https://glbse.com/asset/view/FOO.PPPPT
Each bond represents 1 BTC invested in Bitcoin Savings & Trust.
tl;dr: Pirate bonds, weekly 7% coupon payments. No fees, no commissions, no frantic bidding every week, no insurance, just pure Pirate! This is as close as it gets to the real deal (maybe even better).
The story is simple: I currently have 500 BTC with Pirate/BTCST, earning 5.6% a week. I want to bump up my interest rate. Hence I am auctioning off the remaining space in my account through GLBSE. I will sell 1500 bonds at 1 BTC each on the 28th of May, 2012 at 11:00 EDT (GLBSE time).
A total of 2000 bonds will be issued, and I will keep 500 myself, to represent my portion of the investment. Our interest rate will always be the interest that would be received at BTCST by the total value of bonds issued. Currently this means that I will pay out 7% a week, even if all bonds do not sell during IPO. I will always publicly disclose the total number of issued bonds. The address at which BTCST pays our interest will also be disclosed. I reserve the right to sell the bonds I hold at any time, buy more bonds from the open market, or deposit more money with BTCST and issue myself bonds for the same.
FAQ:
Pirate? BTCST? WTF are you talking about?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-savings-and-trust-home-closed-50822
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-pirate-82849
What's in it for you?
- Increased interest rate with BTCST.
- Increased liquidity for my BTCST investment: I (and all of you) can increase or decrease our level of BTCST investment as we wish by trading these bonds on the open market, while still maintaining the highest interest rate possible.
Aren't you losing money by doing this with no commissions?
A little bit. There's the IPO fee of 8 BTC, and the trade fee on 1500 bonds is 7.5 BTC. However, the potentially increased interest rates from BTCST means that I can recover this loss in 2 weeks, and then gain further out. This keeps the interest pass-through simple (and "pure") as opposed to taking a cut off the initial bond sale or interest payments like the other bond issuers. If you're paying any kind of fee to deposit coins with pirate, you should be demanding some insurance as well. Which leads me to...
Do you offer any insurance?
No. If BTCST defaults and runs away with our money, we lose everything. If pirate returns a portion of our coins, I will buy back the bonds for exactly the fraction of principal that is returned.
When do you pay interest / coupons?
Almost always the same day, never more than 24 hours after BTCST pays out. Currently, interest payments from BTCST are due every Monday at 13:00 EDT. Since the IPO is 2 hours before this date, you will lose 2 hours of interest for the first week, this gives me enough time to move the money into BTCST. You have to be holding the bond at the time of coupon payment, i.e. payments are not pro-rated.
How many more bonds will you issue?
I am currently only issuing enough bonds (1500) to get to the next interest rate tier. I do not intend to issue any further bonds, unless I feel there is significant demand, in which case any further bonds issued will be priced slightly higher. This one-time issuance keeps my overhead low, allowing me to pass through all the interest to you. Of course, if BTCST's interest rate tiers change, I will always strive to reach the top interest rate offered by issuing more bonds.
Will you buy back my bonds if I want out?
For the moment, no. Withdrawing money from the account would cause a drop in interest rates. If you PM me, I might be able to do it using my own BTC liquidity. However, this cannot be guaranteed, especially for large amounts. Buy this bond if you want to deposit some BTC and receive steady payments. Of course, the benefit of GLBSE is that you can put your bonds up for sale at any time, I'm sure people will grab them if the price is right.
Who are you, why should I trust you?
Good question. I have been in the Bitcoin community for a year now. Almost 20 of those 365 days have been spent on this forum (*gulp*). I also lurk on a bunch of bitcoin IRC channels. Come Friday, I will be verified with GLBSE. I will gladly disclose (and can prove) my real identity in PM (if you're planning to buy bonds pre-IPO). My real-world job involves doing research with tax-payer money, and publishing papers. In this field, reputation is everything and I wouldn't do anything to tarnish it.
Is pirateat40 ok with having millions of pass-through bond issuers?
I don't know about millions, but I have his personal blessing to issue this bond.
How old is your account with BTCST?
December 15, 2011.
All discussions, comments, and brickbats welcome. I will update the OP to clarify. Contract terms are coming up in the following post.
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