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that was very funny. I'm surprised you didn't quote it.
 

It looks to me, that the bigger blocksize group tries to find a consensus in an open debate, while the 1MB group is absolutely fine with censorship and dividing(splitting) the community in 2 camps.

F YOU ARE NOT RUNNING A FULL NODE, YOU ARE NOT REALLY USING BITCOIN

That's what it's looked like all summer.  

Time to swing the mighty banhammer and clean house.

The sooner the Gavinistas are herded into /v/bitcoinxt to circlejerk themselves the better.



This is theymos's world of free speech.  Like us, Frap.doc is a guest here, even though he usually acts like he owns the place and gets to decide what's on the stereo, what we're eating for supper, and what color to paint the garage.

You'd think someone as old and with as many BTC as him would be a Donator, but no...  

The function is simple.  Observing the actual XT adoption curve, though the fog of war and despite weaponized version stamps, is another matter entirely.

I'm not surprised you'd rather gloat about the funny picture than address what happens when XT is led down our garden path, into premature aggression and subsequent disaster.   

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010283.html

Comedy fest continues 

How long until the XT hype dies off?

The 1MB'ers are happy watching that adoption isn't growing anymore. Stupidity at its best.

Hi all,

I previously mentioned in a post that i believe that technically nodes are capable of handling blocks an order of magnitude larger than the current blocksize limit, the only missing thing was an incentive to run them. I have been monitoring the blockchain for the past couple of weeks and am seeing that even miners who have all the incentives are for whatever reason struggling to download and validate much smaller blocks.
The data actually paints a very grim picture of the current bandwidth/validating capacity of the global mining network.
See the following empty blocks mined despite a non-trivial elapsed time from the previous block just from the past couple of days alone (Data from insight.bitpay.com):

EmptyBlock /Time since previous block/ Size of previous block(bytes)/Mined by====================================================370165  29s  720784  Antpool370160  31s  50129    BTCChinaPool370076  49s  469988  F2Pool370059  34s  110994  Antpool370057  73s  131603  Antpool
We have preceding blocks as small as 50KB with 30s passing and the miner continues to mine empty blocks via SPV mining.
The most glaring case is Block 370057 where despite 73s elapsing and the preceding block being a mere 131KB, the miner is unable to download/validate fast enough to include transactions in his block. Unless ofcourse the miner is mining empty blocks on purpose, which does not make sense as all of these pools do mine blocks with transactions when the elapsed time is greater.

This is a cause for great concern, because if miners are SPV mining for a whole minute for <750KB blocks, at 8MB blocks, the network will just fall apart as a significant portion of the hashing power SPV mines throughout. All a single malicious miner has to do is mine an invalid block on purpose, let these pools SPV mine on top of them while it mines a valid block free of their competition. Yes, these pools deserve to lose money in that event, but the impact of reorgs and many block orphans for anyone not running a full node could be disastrous, especially more so in the XT world where Mike wants everyone to be running SPV nodes. I simply don't see the XT fork having any chance of surviving if SPV nodes are unreliable.

And if these pools go out of business, it will lead to even more mining centralization which is already too centralized today.

There is no censorship here or on the subreddit.

If you disagree, prove it by defecting from Core's flagship forums to https://voat.co/v/bitcoinxt.

Vote with your feet.  Knock us out with the alleged Gavincoin consensus of your supposed XT socioeconomic majority.

So it's settled then. We kneel at the feet of your overwhelming insight.

So it's settled then. We kneel at the feet of your overwhelming insight.

point is this forum and r/bitcoin are called after bitcoin. not bitcoinxt.
hence i suggest people stfu with this pathetic whining and altcoin shilling.

I guess your prefer a r/Bitcoin frontpage full of "WHERE IS MY BLOCKSIZE INCREASE? I WANT IT NOW. STOP CENSORSHIP"

And why are you still here, in cypher's world of free speech, instead of running with your soulmates, the supressors and illiberals?

And why are you still here, in cypher's world of free speech, instead of running with your soulmates, the supressors and illiberals?

I was told that "book burnings" would be next.  

Can you please get your Theymos Is Literally Hitler narrative sorted out?  It's getting confusing.

And why are you still here in the land of oppression, instead of running free and wild at https://voat.co/v/bitcoinxt ?

iwilcox 9 points
If people decide to take their toys and go home because they didn't get their way...

Mike didn't get his way on various PRs. Some wish he had gone home, but instead he decided to wait for a divisive debate he could take advantage of to attempt a coup.

You're part of a group on a plane which is being remodelled mid-flight, with Mike, and out of concern for all on board you refuse him several changes with ill-considered side-effects. He gets up, declares himself pilot and starts swinging a sledgehammer about, crying "Growth at any cost! We're redirecting towards PayPal HQ." Who'd stay on that plane, with the sledgehammer-swinger as the new pilot?

I see now you aren't Napoleon at all, that's ice. You are Winston.

I wonder at what point will you start to question your role at Minitrue?

I see now you aren't Napoleon at all, that's ice. You are Winston.

I wonder at what point will you start to question your role at Minitrue?