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January 25, 2013, 02:11:01 PM




KABOOM AGAIN

Apple just totally getting Bitch-Slapped.

Yeah my shorts (actually put options) are paying off nicely.  I may cover soon, I know you're thinking in the $300s but I have to dig a little more as I'm not entirely convinced.  Hope to post something a little more in depth later. 
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Libertas a calumnia
January 25, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
Probabily I'm a bit offtopic but I don't mind judging the general level of the late posts ;-) so: could someone explain me how to buy a put option for AAPL?

I find the apple capitalization is pure madness, and I suppose that now that iphones get so much competition from android apple will be unable to keep the fuzz to this height and some time after the iphone5 is out the stock value will begin to plunge.
(AAPL was around 600 at that time)

PS. JMO, Don't short Apple .... you will get eaten. If you want some put selling strategies you may want to check out Fully Informed.
Apple just totally getting Bitch-Slapped.
AAPL trading around 440 right now.

Turns out that maybe I was not so wrong about shorting AAPL Wink
legendary
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January 25, 2013, 12:35:42 PM




KABOOM AGAIN

Apple just totally getting Bitch-Slapped.
legendary
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January 24, 2013, 01:27:14 PM
if you do this you might want to start from the Jan 2009 date that Bitcoin was born.

A bit busy recently, but I'll post my chart of the monthly data (from late 2010 on) later today or tomorrow. I can make the data set available as well.

i think monthly is preferable to yearly and is the longest interval i'd like to see.
legendary
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January 24, 2013, 01:18:37 PM
if you do this you might want to start from the Jan 2009 date that Bitcoin was born.

A bit busy recently, but I'll post my chart of the monthly data (from late 2010 on) later today or tomorrow. I can make the data set available as well.
legendary
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January 24, 2013, 12:50:53 PM

If I were you, I would not wasteng my time arguing with losers, cause all they can do now is to talk.

yes, but back then it was not clear who the loser exactly was.  you have no idea what kinda shitfest existed here on this very forum back in those dark days.

Ha, I actually meant that there is no need to tease them now, the rally itself must be painful enough already. was actually here, but I stop reading the forum for a while during those dark days, lest their trash talk would move me to sell my bitcoins.

I was following things back in the 'dark days' pretty closely.  Part of it was incidental and related to general interests, but another part was that I was looking for the various psychological phases of a bubble.  Namely the 'despair' phase.

I was planning to double down one last time in the mid $1.xx range, but we never got there.  A drop into the $0.xx range probably would have tipped me into the 'dispair' phase due to the simple arithmatic of things.

My interest tapered off once the price rise happened and I've not bought any BTC since.  The current up-leg is severe enough to keep even stoic old me coming back to check the charts (and spam the forum) more often than is healthy.  Oh well.

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legendary
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January 24, 2013, 11:10:47 AM
the silverbox update (comparison from the beginning of this thread):

Bitcoin:  +249%

Gold:  -1%

GPL:  -21% silverbox long

Diff:  +250% advantage Bitcoin and growing.
legendary
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January 24, 2013, 10:37:45 AM
alright, alright, if you insist:

the silverbox update (comparison from the beginning of this thread):

Bitcoin:  +246%

Gold:  0%

GPL:  -19% silverbox long

Diff:  +246% advantage Bitcoin and growing.

^ Nice one  Grin

Scramble for cover guys!

legendary
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January 24, 2013, 12:04:08 AM
alright, alright, if you insist:

the silverbox update (comparison from the beginning of this thread):

Bitcoin:  +246%

Gold:  0%

GPL:  -19% silverbox long

Diff:  +246% advantage Bitcoin and growing.
legendary
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January 23, 2013, 11:57:57 PM
The Daaash for Digital Caaash
legendary
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January 23, 2013, 10:51:34 PM
I Love Bitcoin.

Too tired to do an update.  Suffice it to say; it's rippin'.
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January 23, 2013, 08:41:53 PM
Kinda wish I didn't buy 2 oz in mid December before the correction and bought BTC instead :s Btw I bought BTC too just worth a lot less than 2oz of Au.

don't fret; you weren't the only one.  i present to you, your predecessor (Disc Mod):

You seem really butthurt over everything.  Bagholder?

Ouch you are, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.586961

So sorry, good luck with that.  

6/7 days up.

You have a ridiculously short memory. Up from...$2.5? Nice. Good luck recovering your losses. What you buy at, $28?

Not only that, sold his gold to invest in btc.  True believer bagholder right here.    

Watching cypherdoc get more and more frantic every day is pretty hilarious.  At least it would be if it weren't so sad.  

its ok.  double bottoms are not uncommon.  the blockchain marches on.

RISK ON!  LOL

Any day now the money is going to come pouring in, you'll see, you'll see...

Yes all those investors just sitting around waiting for the right moment to dump millions into bitcoins.  Reminds me of that hilarious post cypher made earlier in this thread: 

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i can easily see professional investors looking over the table:

Q:  whats this over here, Bitcoin?  i thought it was done?

A:  no, still hanging around.

Q:  didn't it get hacked?

A:  the exchange did but the source code didn't.

Q:  is Gavin still around?

A:  yes.

Q:  how about those other guys, Stefan Thomas, Amir Taaki, and Jeff Garzik?

A:  they're still there too.

Q:  God, i thought they would've given up by now if Bitcoin really was a ponzi.

A:  nope.

Q:  any improvements in security?

A:  tons.  consumers are now protected by encryption and mtgox hasn't suffered another attack.

Q:  really?  how much is it now?

A:  $2

Q:  you're kidding.  didn't you say it acts like gold?  a limited supply?

A:  yes

Q:  well, our gold/silver plays aren't doing so well.

A:  lets pour a few million into Bitcoin.  its oversold and maybe we can get a short squeeze going.

ANY DAY GUYS THINK POSITIVE!

If I were you, I would not wasteng my time arguing with losers, cause all they can do now is to talk.

yes, but back then it was not clear who the loser exactly was.  you have no idea what kinda shitfest existed here on this very forum back in those dark days.

Ha, I actually meant that there is no need to tease them now, the rally itself must be painful enough already. was actually here, but I stop reading the forum for a while during those dark days, lest their trash talk would move me to sell my bitcoins.
legendary
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January 23, 2013, 08:41:44 PM
yes, but back then it was not clear who the loser exactly was.  you have no idea what kinda shitfest existed here on this very forum back in those dark days.

It was quite clear for me. His name started with "N" and ended with "agle".

Bwahahahahahaha!
legendary
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January 23, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
Kinda wish I didn't buy 2 oz in mid December before the correction and bought BTC instead :s Btw I bought BTC too just worth a lot less than 2oz of Au.

don't fret; you weren't the only one.  i present to you, your predecessor (Disc Mod):

You seem really butthurt over everything.  Bagholder?

Ouch you are, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.586961

So sorry, good luck with that.  

6/7 days up.

You have a ridiculously short memory. Up from...$2.5? Nice. Good luck recovering your losses. What you buy at, $28?

Not only that, sold his gold to invest in btc.  True believer bagholder right here.    

Watching cypherdoc get more and more frantic every day is pretty hilarious.  At least it would be if it weren't so sad.  

its ok.  double bottoms are not uncommon.  the blockchain marches on.

RISK ON!  LOL

Any day now the money is going to come pouring in, you'll see, you'll see...

Yes all those investors just sitting around waiting for the right moment to dump millions into bitcoins.  Reminds me of that hilarious post cypher made earlier in this thread: 

Quote
i can easily see professional investors looking over the table:

Q:  whats this over here, Bitcoin?  i thought it was done?

A:  no, still hanging around.

Q:  didn't it get hacked?

A:  the exchange did but the source code didn't.

Q:  is Gavin still around?

A:  yes.

Q:  how about those other guys, Stefan Thomas, Amir Taaki, and Jeff Garzik?

A:  they're still there too.

Q:  God, i thought they would've given up by now if Bitcoin really was a ponzi.

A:  nope.

Q:  any improvements in security?

A:  tons.  consumers are now protected by encryption and mtgox hasn't suffered another attack.

Q:  really?  how much is it now?

A:  $2

Q:  you're kidding.  didn't you say it acts like gold?  a limited supply?

A:  yes

Q:  well, our gold/silver plays aren't doing so well.

A:  lets pour a few million into Bitcoin.  its oversold and maybe we can get a short squeeze going.

ANY DAY GUYS THINK POSITIVE!

If I were you, I would not wasteng my time arguing with losers, cause all they can do now is to talk.

yes, but back then it was not clear who the loser exactly was.  you have no idea what kinda shitfest existed here on this very forum back in those dark days.
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January 23, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
Kinda wish I didn't buy 2 oz in mid December before the correction and bought BTC instead :s Btw I bought BTC too just worth a lot less than 2oz of Au.

don't fret; you weren't the only one.  i present to you, your predecessor (Disc Mod):

You seem really butthurt over everything.  Bagholder?

Ouch you are, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.586961

So sorry, good luck with that.  

6/7 days up.

You have a ridiculously short memory. Up from...$2.5? Nice. Good luck recovering your losses. What you buy at, $28?

Not only that, sold his gold to invest in btc.  True believer bagholder right here.    

Watching cypherdoc get more and more frantic every day is pretty hilarious.  At least it would be if it weren't so sad.  

its ok.  double bottoms are not uncommon.  the blockchain marches on.

RISK ON!  LOL

Any day now the money is going to come pouring in, you'll see, you'll see...

Yes all those investors just sitting around waiting for the right moment to dump millions into bitcoins.  Reminds me of that hilarious post cypher made earlier in this thread: 

Quote
i can easily see professional investors looking over the table:

Q:  whats this over here, Bitcoin?  i thought it was done?

A:  no, still hanging around.

Q:  didn't it get hacked?

A:  the exchange did but the source code didn't.

Q:  is Gavin still around?

A:  yes.

Q:  how about those other guys, Stefan Thomas, Amir Taaki, and Jeff Garzik?

A:  they're still there too.

Q:  God, i thought they would've given up by now if Bitcoin really was a ponzi.

A:  nope.

Q:  any improvements in security?

A:  tons.  consumers are now protected by encryption and mtgox hasn't suffered another attack.

Q:  really?  how much is it now?

A:  $2

Q:  you're kidding.  didn't you say it acts like gold?  a limited supply?

A:  yes

Q:  well, our gold/silver plays aren't doing so well.

A:  lets pour a few million into Bitcoin.  its oversold and maybe we can get a short squeeze going.

ANY DAY GUYS THINK POSITIVE!

If I were you, I would not wasteng my time arguing with losers, cause all they can do now is to talk.
legendary
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January 23, 2013, 04:38:04 PM




KABOOM AGAIN

come to Bitcoin Baby, come to Bitcoin.
vip
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I still <3 u Satoshi
January 23, 2013, 04:13:23 PM
maybe its about time to lock this thread and make another one.
donator
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January 23, 2013, 03:46:20 PM
yeah, the title is provocative.  i probably should have titled it "Gold collapsing relative to Bitcoin". 

or maybe "bitcoin vs. gold".

Of course that would probably not have resulted in such nicely heated debating.
legendary
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January 23, 2013, 01:15:25 PM
When silver goes up just a bit, I'm delighted.

The BTC climbs at this staggering rate, and I have all sorts of conflicting thoughts.

well, you know what.  this thread has been all about gold but i've never taken the time to show you the difference btwn the performance of silver vs. Bitcoin since i made my exchange back in the Spring of 2011.  i've made it clear that my average cost out from selling silver was $44 and that i started buying Bitcoin @ $1.60.  here are the figures:

Silver:  -27%

Bitcoin:  +987%

Diff:  +1014% advantage Bitcoin.

I think that what got a lot of us going was that by it's very title of the thread is about gold collapsing.  A lot of us thought it unlikely and continue to feel it unlikely a year later.  As long as it doesn't happen it makes for a long-running thread, and one of my favorites on the forum since it has touched so many subjects.

yeah, the title is provocative.  i probably should have titled it "Gold collapsing relative to Bitcoin".  whereas i actually DO think the possibility for gold/silver to collapse is still there as displayed by my ongoing short position, i must admit that the likelihood for that is waning.  this clearly has been a direct result of the extent to which TPTB have been willing to throw all laws and rightful accounting practices out the window and thus the common ppl under the bus to prevent deflation.  it's extraordinary and i think that payback time will one day come as i don't think TPTB can control markets forever.  this is where i differ from the inflationists.  volatility is built into the system even as we see the VIX drop to multi-year low levels of 12.31 and i think deflation will get its turn eventually.  but its a slow process.

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In my case, and probably most of the other readers who also have a BTC stash, your picking up for silverbox updates showing awesome Bitcoin figures are delightful.  I should dig back in the thread and figure out how to do another year-over-year analysis if I were not so lazy.

An interesting artifact which is currently a little mis-leading but good propaganda would also be a Jan-1 data-point plot of USD/BTC values.  It should show a pretty clean rise in BTC values since it, by happenstance, avoids the 2011 bubble.  I expect that to be leveragable for mainstream purposes going forward, though it is unclear to me even when/if I will ever be (again) excited about Bitcoin cast before the public eye.  The 'casting pearls before swine' concept is only a small part of my reluctance to hope for this.



if you do this you might want to start from the Jan 2009 date that Bitcoin was born.
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