Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 1359.

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Quote from: Polvos on January 17, 2013, 01:21:09 AM

Quote from: robamichael on January 17, 2013, 12:11:58 AM

Gold and silver have the advantage of not requiring A) Electricity B) Access to the internet

Both of these mentioned advantages are more likely absent from "hostile" environments.

People tend to escape from "hostile" environments, and gold doesn't allow you to escape, while hidding your savings, so effectively than Bitcoin.

You have a point, and perhaps more importantly, gold is also worthless in a sufficiently "hostile" environment, where the only usable currencies are guns and powders.

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Quote from: robamichael on January 17, 2013, 12:11:58 AM

Gold and silver have the advantage of not requiring A) Electricity B) Access to the internet

Both of these mentioned advantages are more likely absent from "hostile" environments.

People tend to escape from "hostile" environments, and gold doesn't allow you to escape, while hidding your savings, so effectively than Bitcoin.

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Quote from: miscreanity on January 16, 2013, 11:36:59 PM

I'm really liking my prediction of BTC breaking the 2011 high... with about six months to go.

If I were to pay for travel out of a hostile environment, I'd be more likely to find a service that would accept gold or silver than bitcoins. That will likely remain true for at least another year or two - it seems about the fastest rate that humans are capable of assimilating word-of-mouth propagated knowledge on a global scale, even with the hyperconnected communications we have now.

In some places of the world, bitcoins couldn't be a reality even if people were willing.

Gold and silver have the advantage of not requiring A) Electricity B) Access to the internet

Both of these mentioned advantages are more likely absent from "hostile" environments.

However, I too think that the primary trend (of bitcoin price/popularity) is up up and away for the time being.

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I'm really liking my prediction of BTC breaking the 2011 high... with about six months to go.

If I were to pay for travel out of a hostile environment, I'd be more likely to find a service that would accept gold or silver than bitcoins. That will likely remain true for at least another year or two - it seems about the fastest rate that humans are capable of assimilating word-of-mouth propagated knowledge on a global scale, even with the hyperconnected communications we have now.

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the silverbox update (comparison from the beginning of this thread):

Bitcoin: +173%

Gold: -1%

GPL: -22% silverbox long

Diff: +174% advantage Bitcoin and growing.

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Quote from: notme on January 16, 2013, 11:34:41 AM

Quote from: vokain on January 16, 2013, 09:41:04 AM

Quote from: molecular on January 16, 2013, 09:25:08 AM

I like it when people use apple products. Enables me to say: "Sorry girl, can't help you out with that, I'm a linux guy. But.. doesn't that usually just work? Try sliding or tapping the thing and remove your finger from that gap in the metal in case reception is bad. You're supposed to hold it like this, see?"

Good thing Apple is structuring itself for the computer unsavvy so that if they have questions they don't really thing to ask their local geek friend to fix their problem but the first thought is to head to the "genius bar"

so I don't deal with such nonsense

Works great, unless you're in the half of the (US) population nowhere near a "genius bar". If you're in another country and not in the capital, good luck.

1-800-my-apple!

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Quote from: vokain on January 16, 2013, 09:41:04 AM

Quote from: molecular on January 16, 2013, 09:25:08 AM

I like it when people use apple products. Enables me to say: "Sorry girl, can't help you out with that, I'm a linux guy. But.. doesn't that usually just work? Try sliding or tapping the thing and remove your finger from that gap in the metal in case reception is bad. You're supposed to hold it like this, see?"

Good thing Apple is structuring itself for the computer unsavvy so that if they have questions they don't really thing to ask their local geek friend to fix their problem but the first thought is to head to the "genius bar"

so I don't deal with such nonsense

Works great, unless you're in the half of the (US) population nowhere near a "genius bar". If you're in another country and not in the capital, good luck.

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Quote from: molecular on January 16, 2013, 09:25:08 AM

I like it when people use apple products. Enables me to say: "Sorry girl, can't help you out with that, I'm a linux guy. But.. doesn't that usually just work? Try sliding or tapping the thing and remove your finger from that gap in the metal in case reception is bad. You're supposed to hold it like this, see?"

Good thing Apple is structuring itself for the computer unsavvy so that if they have questions they don't really thing to ask their local geek friend to fix their problem but the first thought is to head to the "genius bar"

so I don't deal with such nonsense

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Quote from: vokain on January 16, 2013, 09:14:32 AM

Quote from: notme on January 16, 2013, 08:05:41 AM

Quote from: vokain on January 15, 2013, 07:40:23 PM

i'm an avid proponent of apple products but I couldn't be less impartial to what price Apple is trading at. In fact, I invite the volatility

Why? I have an iPhone that a client bought for me to do an App. The next one will run Android.

I mean I used Windows since the age of 4 and know it inside out, but it was breathtaking moving to a UI that was intuitive, on hardware that felt right to use and worked (battery life, build quality, etc). And at least within the Apple ecosystem, my iphone works so well together with an apple tv and Mac. Now I'm sure you can do most things on a Windows/Android system as you could on an iPhone, but the Apple culture just really emphasizes usability and I just don't want to set every little thing up or troubleshoot every bug I run into. I don't want to think about any of that. I just want to do whatever I need to do and get on with my life, it's way too short to constantly configure things. That's mainly why I don't use linux too, but I could if I didn't see Apple as a more usable (and enjoyable) product to me.

I like it when people use apple products. Enables me to say: "Sorry girl, can't help you out with that, I'm a linux guy. But.. doesn't that usually just work? Try sliding or tapping the thing and remove your finger from that gap in the metal in case reception is bad. You're supposed to hold it like this, see?"

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Quote from: notme on January 16, 2013, 08:05:41 AM

Quote from: vokain on January 15, 2013, 07:40:23 PM

Quote from: mccorvic on January 15, 2013, 11:10:42 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on January 15, 2013, 10:03:25 AM

Quote from: SkRRJyTC on January 15, 2013, 10:01:15 AM

I have to agree that this looks pretty ugly
http://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=aapl
http://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=AAPL&ty=c&ta=0&p=m

400 incoming?

300

Oh, I look forward to bottling all the sweet fan boy tears if that happens Cheesy

i'm an avid proponent of apple products but I couldn't be less impartial to what price Apple is trading at. In fact, I invite the volatility

Why? I have an iPhone that a client bought for me to do an App. The next one will run Android.

Wuuut? The next iPhone will run Android? BUY BUY BUY APL

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Quote from: vokain on January 16, 2013, 09:14:32 AM

Quote from: notme on January 16, 2013, 08:05:41 AM

Quote from: vokain on January 15, 2013, 07:40:23 PM

i'm an avid proponent of apple products but I couldn't be less impartial to what price Apple is trading at. In fact, I invite the volatility

Why? I have an iPhone that a client bought for me to do an App. The next one will run Android.

I mean I used Windows since the age of 4 and know it inside out, but it was breathtaking moving to a UI that was intuitive, on hardware that felt right to use and worked (battery life, build quality, etc). And at least within the Apple ecosystem, my iphone works so well together with an apple tv and Mac. Now I'm sure you can do most things on a Windows/Android system as you could on an iPhone, but the Apple culture just really emphasizes usability and I just don't want to set every little thing up or troubleshoot every bug I run into. I don't want to think about any of that. I just want to do whatever I need to do and get on with my life, it's way too short to constantly configure things. That's mainly why I don't use linux too, but I could if I didn't see Apple as a more usable product to me.

In my experience my phone has plenty of bugs, primarily in Apple software (much has been fixed by updates, but that's a problem too because they don't make special updates for earlier models, they just dump the new code on you that is tuned for the newer devices, resulting in severe lag issues on the older hardware). With my Android tablet I have much less trouble and my vendor (Asus) provides custom images for each device they sell, ensuring good performance with the latest bug fixes.

Apple's okay if you want to shell out another $500 every year to keep your hardware up to date, but I've got better things to spend my money on (like bitcoin Wink

).

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Quote from: notme on January 16, 2013, 08:05:41 AM

Quote from: vokain on January 15, 2013, 07:40:23 PM

i'm an avid proponent of apple products but I couldn't be less impartial to what price Apple is trading at. In fact, I invite the volatility

Why? I have an iPhone that a client bought for me to do an App. The next one will run Android.

I mean I used Windows since the age of 4 and know it inside out, but it was breathtaking moving to a UI that was intuitive, on hardware that felt right to use and worked (battery life, build quality, etc). And at least within the Apple ecosystem, my iphone works so well together with an apple tv and Mac. Now I'm sure you can do most things on a Windows/Android system as you could on an iPhone, but the Apple culture just really emphasizes usability and I just don't want to set every little thing up or troubleshoot every bug I run into. I don't want to think about any of that. I just want to do whatever I need to do and get on with my life, it's way too short to constantly configure things. That's mainly why I don't use linux too, but I could if I didn't see Apple as a more usable (and enjoyable) product to me.

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