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legendary
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100 satoshis -> ISO code
April 20, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
If the US calculated unemployment the same way as Spain does, the US would be well above 25% unemployment today.

The US unemployment calculation has been modified and manipulated to show good numbers over the past 50 years. The headline number today is the U3 rate, but we used to show the U6 number which included underemployed as well. On top of this none of these numbers include people who dropped out of the workforce and are now on entitlements (which is unemployed). You add this all up and we are well past 25%. If the government ever runs out of entitlement money people are going to see just how bad the employment situation really is.

But we live in the era of twitter politics that generate headlines such as "Unemployment dropped to 5.6% under Obama", never mind the fact that Obama changed the calculation a bit to hit that number, and the number is complete bullshit.

Yes, the numbers are so distorted they have lost historical significance. 100 years ago government workers were counted as unemployed as they were funded from taxation, not the productive economy. Not only does the debt-based financial system need a reset button, so do economic statistics.
legendary
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April 20, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
Kansas Activist Could Face Felony Charges Because Her 11-Year-Old Son Challenged Anti-Pot Propaganda
http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/20/kansas-activist-could-face-felony-charge#.ofyk1n:vjid

and

Kansas Police Shutdown Cannabis Oil Activist's Facebook to Prevent her from raising money for her legal defense
http://kansasexposed.org/2015/04/17/kansas-police-shutdown-cannabis-oil-activists-facebook-to-prevent-her-from-raising-money-for-her-legal-defense/

If only we had some mechanism to transmit money without state control....
hero member
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April 20, 2015, 01:56:06 PM


Grexit seems almost inevitable these days.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/16/greece-moves-step-closer-to-grexit-after-imf-snub

After that all eyes will be on Spain and Podemos.

Spain won't vote anything radical. Although Podemos will be part of many governments in the next few years, it won't win any relevant election. Part of it is due to the fact that it won't gain support from the right now that TPTB are very obviously backing the "new" right-wing party Ciudadanos (Citizens). With the People's Party (PP) dead, with every treasurer in its history facing court, and employment recovery not yet clear, they were surely going to pull something out of the hat.

Be careful not to drop into the mainstream by what you hear in the media.

(oh, look, the stocks are bouncing and transports refuse to break down even with oil rallying for days, who would have thunk it?)

I wouldn't be so sure about that, many people said the same of Syriza. Besides I wasn't really insinuating they would win los Generales. More that there is serious discontent in spain you only have to look at how many under 30's are leaving for South America, or the levels of youth unemployment to see that. With this strength they can apply some heavy political influence on whoever does win. I suspect a hung parliament with PP.

mainstream-media is a dirty word  Tongue
legendary
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April 20, 2015, 01:07:57 PM
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Thanks for this great Austrian-style analysis.

Yeah, you 2 have made my job alot easier these days. Thanks for that.

Thanks for maintaining a great thread. I used to be quite active at ZH '09-'13 and took solace there, but the ZH comment section significantly degenerated and all the decent original posters abandoned it which is a shame. This thread helps to fill that void....
legendary
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April 20, 2015, 12:57:28 PM


Grexit seems almost inevitable these days.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/16/greece-moves-step-closer-to-grexit-after-imf-snub

After that all eyes will be on Spain and Podemos.

Spain won't vote anything radical. Although Podemos will be part of many governments in the next few years, it won't win any relevant election. Part of it is due to the fact that it won't gain support from the right now that TPTB are very obviously backing the "new" right-wing party Ciudadanos (Citizens). With the People's Party (PP) dead, with every treasurer in its history facing court, and employment recovery not yet clear, they were surely going to pull something out of the hat.

Be careful not to drop into the mainstream by what you hear in the media.

(oh, look, the stocks are bouncing and transports refuse to break down even with oil rallying for days, who would have thunk it?)

ORLY? euphemism much?

1 spanish out of 4 is unemployed: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/spain/unemployment-rate
youth unemployement rate over 50% since 2012: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/spain/youth-unemployment-rate
(and these are just "official" numbers.. )

Spain is drowning and TPTB is doing everything to maintain the status quo whilst enjoying canapés et petits fours over at Bruxelles.
Pretty much the same with all the governments in Europe. Cheesy

If the US calculated unemployment the same way as Spain does, the US would be well above 25% unemployment today.

The US unemployment calculation has been modified and manipulated to show good numbers over the past 50 years. The headline number today is the U3 rate, but we used to show the U6 number which included underemployed as well. On top of this none of these numbers include people who dropped out of the workforce and are now on entitlements (which is unemployed). You add this all up and we are well past 25%. If the government ever runs out of entitlement money people are going to see just how bad the employment situation really is.

But we live in the era of twitter politics that generate headlines such as "Unemployment dropped to 5.6% under Obama", never mind the fact that Obama changed the calculation a bit to hit that number, and the number is complete bullshit.
legendary
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April 20, 2015, 11:44:58 AM


Grexit seems almost inevitable these days.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/16/greece-moves-step-closer-to-grexit-after-imf-snub

After that all eyes will be on Spain and Podemos.

Spain won't vote anything radical. Although Podemos will be part of many governments in the next few years, it won't win any relevant election. Part of it is due to the fact that it won't gain support from the right now that TPTB are very obviously backing the "new" right-wing party Ciudadanos (Citizens). With the People's Party (PP) dead, with every treasurer in its history facing court, and employment recovery not yet clear, they were surely going to pull something out of the hat.

Be careful not to drop into the mainstream by what you hear in the media.

(oh, look, the stocks are bouncing and transports refuse to break down even with oil rallying for days, who would have thunk it?)

ORLY? euphemism much?

1 spanish out of 4 is unemployed: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/spain/unemployment-rate
youth unemployement rate over 50% since 2012: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/spain/youth-unemployment-rate
(and these are just "official" numbers.. )

Spain is drowning and TPTB is doing everything to maintain the status quo whilst enjoying canapés et petits fours over at Bruxelles.
Pretty much the same with all the governments in Europe. Cheesy
hero member
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Spanish Bitcoin trader
April 20, 2015, 11:09:48 AM


Grexit seems almost inevitable these days.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/apr/16/greece-moves-step-closer-to-grexit-after-imf-snub

After that all eyes will be on Spain and Podemos.

Spain won't vote anything radical. Although Podemos will be part of many governments in the next few years, it won't win any relevant election. Part of it is due to the fact that it won't gain support from the right now that TPTB are very obviously backing the "new" right-wing party Ciudadanos (Citizens). With the People's Party (PP) dead, with every treasurer in its history facing court, and employment recovery not yet clear, they were surely going to pull something out of the hat.

Be careful not to drop into the mainstream by what you hear in the media.

(oh, look, the stocks are bouncing and transports refuse to break down even with oil rallying for days, who would have thunk it?)
legendary
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April 20, 2015, 06:35:05 AM
wow, more smartphone innovation on the horizon.  mobile is the bomb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTObCr4gnM&feature=youtu.be


This gives me tingles in my toes. Every cell phone can now be a hardware wallet that uses encrypted sms to broadcast. BitSim is my new favourite thing.

It's pretty awesome...

On the downside: what about privacy?


Seeing as everything is encrypted it should be private even in contract phones. for the paranoid there are always pre paid phones.
In any case I dont see that need being terribly relavent for this market.

This is the beginning of the killer app era for bitcoin.



Feels very positive lately, the inevitability of momentum. With every announcement like this I care less about the bear market.

donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
April 20, 2015, 03:39:10 AM
When folks realize they can control their money and keep it absolutely secure, they will come.
legendary
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April 20, 2015, 02:58:57 AM
wow, more smartphone innovation on the horizon.  mobile is the bomb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTObCr4gnM&feature=youtu.be


This gives me tingles in my toes. Every cell phone can now be a hardware wallet that uses encrypted sms to broadcast. BitSim is my new favourite thing.

It's pretty awesome...

On the downside: what about privacy?


Seeing as everything is encrypted it should be private even in contract phones. for the paranoid there are always pre paid phones.
In any case I dont see that need being terribly relavent for this market.

This is the beginning of the killer app era for bitcoin.
Thats what initially came to my mind. Interesting that the/a killer app would be based on technology, of a pre app era. Amazing rewind.  Cool

I now want to see this actually working.
legendary
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Enabling the maximal migration
April 20, 2015, 02:41:47 AM
wow, more smartphone innovation on the horizon.  mobile is the bomb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTObCr4gnM&feature=youtu.be


This gives me tingles in my toes. Every cell phone can now be a hardware wallet that uses encrypted sms to broadcast. BitSim is my new favourite thing.

It's pretty awesome...

On the downside: what about privacy?


Seeing as everything is encrypted it should be private even in contract phones. for the paranoid there are always pre paid phones.
In any case I dont see that need being terribly relavent for this market.

This is the beginning of the killer app era for bitcoin.
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
April 20, 2015, 02:21:02 AM
wow, more smartphone innovation on the horizon.  mobile is the bomb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTObCr4gnM&feature=youtu.be


This gives me tingles in my toes. Every cell phone can now be a hardware wallet that uses encrypted sms to broadcast. BitSim is my new favourite thing.

It's pretty awesome...

On the downside: what about privacy?
hero member
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Merit: 500
April 19, 2015, 11:59:59 PM
wow, more smartphone innovation on the horizon.  mobile is the bomb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTObCr4gnM&feature=youtu.be


This gives me tingles in my toes. Every cell phone can now be a hardware wallet that uses encrypted sms to broadcast. BitSim is my new favourite thing.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 11:53:03 PM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?

That was my first thought, this could go horribly wrong with the likes of the NSA and other tentacles trying to embed into network hardware.

fortunately coin security has already being solved with multisig. Still privacy could be compromised but your coins can be safe.

Exciting solution have already been proposed. http://sigsafe.org/  is one solution to allow you to use the tech while diversifying the trust.  It just needs adoption.

i see that Peter has been busy.  interesting concept sigsafe.  i'd be interested in hearing why he chose NFC.  certainly worth following.

He did a video demo a little while back very exciting, typically unlocking the power of your phone with system independent remote multisig, The technology is above me I think NFC has more pros than cons, I hope to see it tested by hardened critics.  

legendary
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April 19, 2015, 11:36:38 PM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?

That was my first thought, this could go horribly wrong with the likes of the NSA and other tentacles trying to embed into network hardware.

fortunately coin security has already being solved with multisig. Still privacy could be compromised but your coins can be safe.

Exciting solution have already been proposed. http://sigsafe.org/  is one solution to allow you to use the tech while diversifying the trust.  It just needs adoption.

i see that Peter has been busy.  interesting concept sigsafe.  i'd be interested in hearing why he chose NFC.  certainly worth following.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 11:13:08 PM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?

That was my first thought, this could go horribly wrong with the likes of the NSA and other tentacles trying to embed into network hardware.

fortunately coin security has already being solved with multisig. Still privacy could be compromised but your coins can be safe.

Exciting solution have already been proposed. http://sigsafe.org/  is one solution to allow you to use the tech while diversifying the trust.  It just needs adoption.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 11:03:55 PM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?

Most of the masses (as yet uninvolved in bitcoin) don't care.  I don't suppose its a great way to store your life's savings, but I think most would be willing to risk their spending money without a qualm. 
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 10:18:15 PM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?

maybe b/c they're joint investors in 21?  i sure hope they do their audits.
legendary
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April 19, 2015, 10:15:55 PM

So why would anyone trust a Qualcomm hardware bitcoin wallet built into their smartphone if it was proprietary?
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