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Colletrix - Bridging the Physical and Virtual Worl
March 10, 2015, 12:37:00 PM
21e6 are designing ASICs, so you'd expect them to get into mining supply and mining. But surely it makes sense for them to use some of that capital to directly buy BTC reserves.
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 12:35:09 PM
So it was in Roman times, and the decline lasted for hundreds of years, so it will be now.

Hundreds of years? I think not. Everything is moving so much faster now. Hundreds of days perhaps.


Yes, in Rome they did not have The Internets

They also did not have Bitcoin  Cool

This year. where does it start? Nobody knows, it is a lottery. Maybe, just maybe, it has already started.

Yepp, it has started.
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 12:32:03 PM
You'd have to be quite cynical to perceive any attack on Bitcoin
There's more than one company included in the $250 million figure you quoted, right?

Why would you assume my comment was directed at just one of them?


I think we've been back and forth on this before. I contend that a service like Coinbase, while obviously not a theoretically ideal user-onboarding platform due to centralization of coins, is inevitable, and also a positive for the ecosystem at this point in time. Part of the necessity for bitcoin to become a powerful asset is user education. If Coinbase makes it easier for people to enter the ecosystem, thus triggering a desire to learn more, then that's a good thing. Hopefully people will in fact learn enough to move most of their coins to cold storage, or a user-controls-2-keys vault solution (like Coinbase msig vault or BitGo's wallet), etc...

If users are simply never going to learn, Coinbase (and/or Circle) will neither help nor hurt. I lean towards it helping, though, as it does make it a lot easier for new casual users to obtain bitcoin. And some of them will likely become serious/knowledgeable users where they would've just ignored bitcoin without the easy initial channel.

Maybe that's too optimistic a viewpoint, but I don't see a realistic alternative.
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March 10, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
You'd have to be quite cynical to perceive any attack on Bitcoin
There's more than one company included in the $250 million figure you quoted, right?

Why would you assume my comment was directed at just one of them?
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 12:13:37 PM
Count is now around 250 milions $ in Bitcoin venture capital in a little over TWO months now in 2015..

Is there a hotter tech trend out there? I don't think so..
What are they building, though?

How much of that 250 million represents an attack on Bitcoin rather than support of Bitcoin?

https://21.co/#jobs

Looks like they are heavy into hardware. You'd have to be quite cynical to perceive any attack on Bitcoin reading into this..

yes
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
March 10, 2015, 12:09:26 PM
Count is now around 250 milions $ in Bitcoin venture capital in a little over TWO months now in 2015..

Is there a hotter tech trend out there? I don't think so..
What are they building, though?

How much of that 250 million represents an attack on Bitcoin rather than support of Bitcoin?

https://21.co/#jobs

Looks like they are heavy into hardware. You'd have to be quite cynical to perceive any attack on Bitcoin reading into this..
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
How much of that 250 million represents an attack on Bitcoin rather than support of Bitcoin?

Can you define what you mean?  My personal opinion of 21.co is they are building a very Bitcoin-centric product.
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March 10, 2015, 12:06:34 PM
21e6 announcing they've raised $116M (!): http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

*still* not saying exactly what they're up to...

Wow, that's incredible, not just for a BTC related company, but for any silicon valley tech company in stealth mode to raise that amount, has to have a very significant product and team.

Count is now around 250 milions $ in Bitcoin venture capital in a little over TWO months now in 2015..

Is there a hotter tech trend out there? I don't think so..

If you look at their jobs page on 21.co it's obvious they are building a hardware product along with interactive software.  Really interested to find out more.
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 12:05:14 PM
Count is now around 250 milions $ in Bitcoin venture capital in a little over TWO months now in 2015..

Is there a hotter tech trend out there? I don't think so..
What are they building, though?

How much of that 250 million represents an attack on Bitcoin rather than support of Bitcoin?
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March 10, 2015, 12:04:19 PM
21e6 announcing they've raised $116M (!): http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

*still* not saying exactly what they're up to...

Wow, that's incredible, not just for a BTC related company, but for any silicon valley tech company in stealth mode to raise that amount, has to have a very significant product and team.

Count is now around 250 milions $ in Bitcoin venture capital in a little over TWO months now in 2015..

Is there a hotter tech trend out there? I don't think so..

Also Peter Thiel is invested. He seems to be slowly transitioning towards a more pro-bitcoin stance.
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
March 10, 2015, 12:02:31 PM
21e6 announcing they've raised $116M (!): http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

*still* not saying exactly what they're up to...

Wow, that's incredible, not just for a BTC related company, but for any silicon valley tech company in stealth mode to raise that amount, has to have a very significant product and team.

Count is now around 250 milions $ in Bitcoin venture capital in a little over TWO months now in 2015..

Is there a hotter tech trend out there? I don't think so..
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 12:01:28 PM
for historical interest, here's the entire chart of GDXJ which, btw, played a significant role in my calling of the gold and silver tops in 2011.

note that the GDXJ was established on 9/2/10 at the far left.  the very top occurred on 12/7/10 @ 179.44.  my post Gold: I smell a trap was made on 8/9/11. at the time, the languishing GDXJ, previous silver top which i called in May 2011, 9 yr cycle, and parabolic runup of gold itself were significant data points to me that the pm's had topped.  

and here we are plumbing new lows:

legendary
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March 10, 2015, 11:48:33 AM
21e6 announcing they've raised $116M (!): http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

*still* not saying exactly what they're up to...

Wow, that's incredible, not just for a BTC related company, but for any silicon valley tech company in stealth mode to raise that amount, has to have a very significant product and team.
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 11:36:06 AM
holy crap.  already:

legendary
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March 10, 2015, 11:33:45 AM
21e6 announcing they've raised $116M (!): http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

*still* not saying exactly what they're up to...
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 11:17:04 AM
Junior miners telegraphing incoming new lows.  Again.  but hey, keep following tvbcof and traderCJ:

legendary
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March 10, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
Dow -265
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 10:48:32 AM
large non conf in play:

legendary
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March 10, 2015, 10:46:45 AM
Dow getting smacked
legendary
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March 10, 2015, 10:16:54 AM
Gold collapsing.  Bitcoin UP.
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