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Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. - page 476. (Read 2032286 times)

legendary
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March 02, 2015, 05:50:31 AM
Continued mining decentralization:



Sure you're right.

Nonetheless, from the same blog post,  a more worrisome observation:

Chinese pools control more than half the network

To be exact, pools identifying as Chinese contributed 52.8% of the networks blocks, with a 95% confidence interval of 
approximately +/- 8.5%. The top four pools are all Chinese. This shouldn't be surprising, since most (all?) bitcoin mining
chips are fabricated there and much of the development appears to be Chinese as well.

My concern with this development is the same as if that much of the network was concentrated in any nation - what happens
to the network if the government decides to take an interest?
Some pools have some of their equipment outside China, but
even so that still leave a large proportion of the network that could be controlled by one government.

I'm sure the Chinese pools are aware of this and have strategies in place to mitigate this risk, and I'd encourage them to
start moving at least some infrastructure to other countries.

emphasis' mine.


legendary
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March 02, 2015, 02:18:21 AM
A problem greece cant fix it based on production.

They have no export/import things from their own country. Meanwhile china, we all love almost everything we have here in the U.S is "Made in China" so it creates millionaires for them.

Greece is nothing but a tourist attraction, unless they understand their own mechanics to the problem.

Well, if they don't export anything, then Bitcoin theoretically would be precisely the type of currency the Greek people should want to adopt. It goes up in value over the long run as well their purchasing power. Just sit back and consume.
Bitcoin still doesn't save them.

They could buy up the bitcoins with whatever euros they have on hand, but then they'll still need to spend their bitcoins.

If they are trying to spend more than they earn - no matter what currency is involved - eventually they'll run out of money.

I think you're missing the bigger picture.

The first country that introduces an honest currency should prosper. People who may have never found it worthwhile to work or strive in the past will for the first time have an incentive to participate in a real economy not distorted by corrupt monetary policy.
Individuals will prosper, but countries will not.

It's not possible for a nation-state to survive in the presence of honest money.

Yes! But in a stateless environment the people are prospering because they are not forced of doing business.
You are forced to do business for the purpose of generating surplus, which is demanded by the state mafia (tribute/tax). In an environment beyond the state - in the rainforest - the communities are producing the same amount as 10'000 years ago. Zero increase. Zero surplus. Zero business.
legendary
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March 01, 2015, 04:40:19 PM
Continued mining decentralization:

legendary
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March 01, 2015, 11:47:56 AM
decent article on what is happening worldwide, altho nothing new from i have said here for a while now:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113576/why-the-european-central-bank-is-paving-the-way-for-cryptocurrencies-op-ed
hero member
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March 01, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
http://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper-DRAFT-0.5.pdf

off-chain transaction routing protocol claim.

Conclusions
Quote
If all Bitcoin transactions were conducted inside a network of micropayment channels, to
enable 7 billion people to make two channels per year with unlimited transactions inside the
channel, it would require 133 MB blocks (presuming 500 bytes per transaction and 52560
blocks per year). Current generation desktop computers will be able to run a full node with
old blocks pruned out on 2TB of storage

That's quite a claim.

Thanks for sharing.
legendary
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9.9.2012: I predict that single digits... <- FAIL
March 01, 2015, 07:17:12 AM
This showed up in my Google news alert today  Smiley

http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/BTCV/profile
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
March 01, 2015, 02:58:29 AM
http://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper-DRAFT-0.5.pdf

off-chain transaction routing protocol claim.
legendary
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March 01, 2015, 02:39:19 AM
China planning a yuan denominated gold fix this year

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102461888
legendary
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March 01, 2015, 01:17:53 AM
A problem greece cant fix it based on production.

They have no export/import things from their own country. Meanwhile china, we all love almost everything we have here in the U.S is "Made in China" so it creates millionaires for them.

Greece is nothing but a tourist attraction, unless they understand their own mechanics to the problem.

Well, if they don't export anything, then Bitcoin theoretically would be precisely the type of currency the Greek people should want to adopt. It goes up in value over the long run as well their purchasing power. Just sit back and consume.
Bitcoin still doesn't save them.

They could buy up the bitcoins with whatever euros they have on hand, but then they'll still need to spend their bitcoins.

If they are trying to spend more than they earn - no matter what currency is involved - eventually they'll run out of money.

I think you're missing the bigger picture.

The first country that introduces an honest currency should prosper. People who may have never found it worthwhile to work or strive in the past will for the first time have an incentive to participate in a real economy not distorted by corrupt monetary policy.

 Cheesy

Good one.

The "corrupt monetary policy" is what has afforded them the social welfare they're adamant on substaining. Bitcoin risks taking away all of these "entitlements" away.

Bitcoin will never be accepted with open arms by "the masses".
Btc is meant to be ideal money.. Thats geared towards mass acceptance regardless of govt

I think you drank too much of the trainscarwreck kool aid.

It will not be accepted by the masses, the ones who profit from current welfare state and status quo, it will be forced upon them.
Status quo will stop working when people have an option that ideal money provides.. In any market good money drives out bad.. Its just a matter of timing.. Thats mathematics
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
February 28, 2015, 10:00:28 PM
A problem greece cant fix it based on production.

They have no export/import things from their own country. Meanwhile china, we all love almost everything we have here in the U.S is "Made in China" so it creates millionaires for them.

Greece is nothing but a tourist attraction, unless they understand their own mechanics to the problem.

Well, if they don't export anything, then Bitcoin theoretically would be precisely the type of currency the Greek people should want to adopt. It goes up in value over the long run as well their purchasing power. Just sit back and consume.
Bitcoin still doesn't save them.

They could buy up the bitcoins with whatever euros they have on hand, but then they'll still need to spend their bitcoins.

If they are trying to spend more than they earn - no matter what currency is involved - eventually they'll run out of money.

I think you're missing the bigger picture.

The first country that introduces an honest currency should prosper. People who may have never found it worthwhile to work or strive in the past will for the first time have an incentive to participate in a real economy not distorted by corrupt monetary policy.

 Cheesy

Good one.

The "corrupt monetary policy" is what has afforded them the social welfare they're adamant on substaining. Bitcoin risks taking away all of these "entitlements" away.

Bitcoin will never be accepted with open arms by "the masses".
Btc is meant to be ideal money.. Thats geared towards mass acceptance regardless of govt

I think you drank too much of the trainscarwreck kool aid.

It will not be accepted by the masses, the ones who profit from current welfare state and status quo, it will be forced upon them.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1005
February 28, 2015, 09:01:05 PM
A problem greece cant fix it based on production.

They have no export/import things from their own country. Meanwhile china, we all love almost everything we have here in the U.S is "Made in China" so it creates millionaires for them.

Greece is nothing but a tourist attraction, unless they understand their own mechanics to the problem.

Well, if they don't export anything, then Bitcoin theoretically would be precisely the type of currency the Greek people should want to adopt. It goes up in value over the long run as well their purchasing power. Just sit back and consume.
Bitcoin still doesn't save them.

They could buy up the bitcoins with whatever euros they have on hand, but then they'll still need to spend their bitcoins.

If they are trying to spend more than they earn - no matter what currency is involved - eventually they'll run out of money.

I think you're missing the bigger picture.

The first country that introduces an honest currency should prosper. People who may have never found it worthwhile to work or strive in the past will for the first time have an incentive to participate in a real economy not distorted by corrupt monetary policy.

 Cheesy

Good one.

The "corrupt monetary policy" is what has afforded them the social welfare they're adamant on substaining. Bitcoin risks taking away all of these "entitlements" away.

Bitcoin will never be accepted with open arms by "the masses".
Btc is meant to be ideal money.. Thats geared towards mass acceptance regardless of govt
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
February 28, 2015, 08:42:02 PM
i'll be darn:

"In a free society, we don't require people to organize their lives in a way that makes life easier for law enforcement"

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-man-who-crafted-the-patriot-act-now-supports-your-right-to-encrypt-data
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1013
February 28, 2015, 08:29:47 PM
A problem greece cant fix it based on production.

They have no export/import things from their own country. Meanwhile china, we all love almost everything we have here in the U.S is "Made in China" so it creates millionaires for them.

Greece is nothing but a tourist attraction, unless they understand their own mechanics to the problem.

Well, if they don't export anything, then Bitcoin theoretically would be precisely the type of currency the Greek people should want to adopt. It goes up in value over the long run as well their purchasing power. Just sit back and consume.
Bitcoin still doesn't save them.

They could buy up the bitcoins with whatever euros they have on hand, but then they'll still need to spend their bitcoins.

If they are trying to spend more than they earn - no matter what currency is involved - eventually they'll run out of money.

I think you're missing the bigger picture.

The first country that introduces an honest currency should prosper. People who may have never found it worthwhile to work or strive in the past will for the first time have an incentive to participate in a real economy not distorted by corrupt monetary policy.
Individuals will prosper, but countries will not.

It's not possible for a nation-state to survive in the presence of honest money.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 504
Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
February 28, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
A problem greece cant fix it based on production.

They have no export/import things from their own country. Meanwhile china, we all love almost everything we have here in the U.S is "Made in China" so it creates millionaires for them.

Greece is nothing but a tourist attraction, unless they understand their own mechanics to the problem.

Well, if they don't export anything, then Bitcoin theoretically would be precisely the type of currency the Greek people should want to adopt. It goes up in value over the long run as well their purchasing power. Just sit back and consume.
Bitcoin still doesn't save them.

They could buy up the bitcoins with whatever euros they have on hand, but then they'll still need to spend their bitcoins.

If they are trying to spend more than they earn - no matter what currency is involved - eventually they'll run out of money.

I think you're missing the bigger picture.

The first country that introduces an honest currency should prosper. People who may have never found it worthwhile to work or strive in the past will for the first time have an incentive to participate in a real economy not distorted by corrupt monetary policy.

 Cheesy

Good one.

The "corrupt monetary policy" is what has afforded them the social welfare they're adamant on substaining. Bitcoin risks taking away all of these "entitlements" away.

Bitcoin will never be accepted with open arms by "the masses".
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
February 28, 2015, 07:13:42 PM
A problem greece cant fix it based on production.

They have no export/import things from their own country. Meanwhile china, we all love almost everything we have here in the U.S is "Made in China" so it creates millionaires for them.

Greece is nothing but a tourist attraction, unless they understand their own mechanics to the problem.

Well, if they don't export anything, then Bitcoin theoretically would be precisely the type of currency the Greek people should want to adopt. It goes up in value over the long run as well their purchasing power. Just sit back and consume.
Bitcoin still doesn't save them.

They could buy up the bitcoins with whatever euros they have on hand, but then they'll still need to spend their bitcoins.

If they are trying to spend more than they earn - no matter what currency is involved - eventually they'll run out of money.

I think you're missing the bigger picture.

The first country that introduces an honest currency should prosper. People who may have never found it worthwhile to work or strive in the past will for the first time have an incentive to participate in a real economy not distorted by corrupt monetary policy.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
February 28, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
Where oh where did BitMagic go?:

i usually stay away from the Spec forum to avoid idiots like you but its kinda fun to mess up all the planned Bear raids.

Keep it coming, friend. You may yet reach Atlas status.

said like a true short seller.

Uh, I'm holding a long position. Don't you look like an idiot.

obviously, but 10:1 you're net short otherwise you  wouldn't be getting so angry at a Bull like me who keeps messing up your grand plans.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
February 28, 2015, 06:26:01 PM
Ah, the days when we used to follow the "mtgox connected" :

mtgoxlives's connected = 918

somethings brewing...

Wonder what happened to all those colorful personalities I used to argue with so much?
legendary
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Merit: 1002
February 28, 2015, 06:19:54 PM
I'm havinga  good laugh taking a walk down memory lan.  For those of you who hate on Bitcoin for volatility:

Bitcoin is so volatile I really don't see why people want to short it.  Today we saw the price go from $2.83 to $2.44 to $3 and back to $2.64 within 2 hours.  One super spike can wipe out most positions. 

Pick any moment in time and bitcoin could be worth 20% less or 20% more within minutes.  Impossible to predict.
legendary
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February 28, 2015, 06:19:53 PM
a) I think that the only random event is creating "master seed".
b) Then there is not more random events and everything is deterministic. (or can be done using SHA-256)

=> I hope (I do not use it) you can import any "master seed" into trezor.

that is all correct.

If you're paranoid, you can use dice to determine the seed and restore it to your trezor. Make sure you check for hidden cameras (don't forget laptops, smartphones, tablets, the fridge, microwave, toaster and smoke detectors) and pull down the shades ;-)

This will not help. (satelites, hubble telescop, time travelers ... )  :-)
legendary
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Merit: 1002
February 28, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Lol, Zhoutonged is making waves again. Ah, much memories, so wow:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.590955

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/zhou-tong
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