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nothing in that link supports your hyperbole.

you look a little panicked cypher. maybe you need to dose your med. this stress is doing you no good.

Actually, I'd start drinking too if I realized the SC scam I was pushing so hard for was going up in smoke:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mxa9s/gavin_andresen_bitcoin_foundation_pivot_wont/cm98ofn

I like to troll you. You are my favorite clown :-)

Odalv, you been drinking again?

My profit is the bitcoin that I own. In that sense I speak to protect the profits of all Bitcoiners.

lol, they were not
only you have been proven wrong endless times

Edit:
 - greedy clown
 - stupid idiot getting mad
 - dick

"geezuz krist" have spoken

Every ppl here can see what is your agenda. => Your agenda is to throw dirt on Blockstream b/c they are against your profit.

Well noted. I think the last time this happened proved to be a huge buy signal? (Actually some delay after the difficulty turns up again).

The really sad thing to note here is that those devs never relented to the majority opinion expressed in that GitHub thread. Sirius, the owner of bitcoin.org actually had to be contacted after 2 or so years of being in seclusion to resolve the dispute.

Martti Malmi, aka Sirius. He needs no introduction, but he is somewhat reclusive these days so it's not clear that he'd necessarily appreciate the nomination. Incidentally, he is the owner of the bitcoin.org domain.-Andreas

Sirius was shocked as to how these devs were ruling over his domain and immediately shut down their press center and demurred to Andreas'  new site.

And the other shocker? To this day, gmax sincerely believes he "won" that battle.  

Not sure if this was posted yet:
Wences Casares' "What is Bitcoin" piece on LinkedIn?: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/20141120164624-208991-what-is-bitcoin

Good broad perspective as always. Wences and Ted Rogers (both Xapo) put out consistently good bitcoin-as-money pieces. Just gotta help them out in the comments

I've been looking everywhere for this and someone finally found it for me. Thanks!

That was a brutal demonstration of heavy handedness displayed by those guys, gmax and lukejr. Fortunately, they were proven wrong in the end. The bitcoin.org press center  they were promoting got shot down, Ver got added to Andreas' new site,  and Matonis went on to serve 2y as TBF head. Justice got served.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/162#issuecomment-17151432

I take issue with this notion :


How does adding SPVP comes at the expense of other approaches?

Something interesting is happening, for the first time since July 2011 Bitcoin Difficulty is trending negative. (it's a little soon as the feed cost - energy is still well below the market price) 

So far the manner in which they are handling it is not encouraging.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mqlcy/why_are_people_so_afraid_of_sidechains/cm6zg25

Not to belittle the point but I think WoW trading platform is a little bit of a hyperbole.

The reversible proof of burn is an apt description. The problem is if SC add any value why reverse, and if some other form of SC becomes more valuable than Bitcoin, Bitcoin's utility will be limited to that allocation if it absorbed enough of it. The result would prevent Bitcoin from reaching it's full potential.

All businesses seek to find a win win value proposition so they can extract a voluntary tax, seeking regulatory assistance to give one a competitive advantage is an attempt at preventing competition ultimately the goal of the least create is an attempt at getting a monopoly.

With Bitcoin we have for the first time in history a set of immutable laws that are enforced by violently cooperation.

BlockStream are the first company to come along and propose a change to the laws that govern the system.

They don't have a business plan yet they have been given over $20,000,000 to implement a change to the Bitcoin protocol

They are the first business to want to extract wealth from the system without a win win proposition.

Every amazing idea I've heard is a projection of a win win from the community. There is no free lunch in nature just entropy and efficiency, we are on the precipice of an extinction event with Bitcoin, we only need switch out the masters of money for this to happen. SC however impressive and innovative are a threat to the $1,000,000 Bitcoin.

With SC the first amazing idea to eat up the $5B market cap wins.

There are some cultists to be sure.  The innovation though, is a positive thing... if it is implemented well and if it can avoid some of the many issues we have surfaced here.  If they are ignored, it could be disastrous.  The cultists and cheerleaders bug me only a little, Bitcoin has no shortage of these.

Sociologically, these cultists also present a risk.  They represent a strategy that is ill-advised in this technology space.  This is why I have recommended here that they moderate their presentation of only the opportunities and not also the risks.

It may be educational to look at some other historical uses of that method of marketing.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

Blockstream has't yet been shown to have engaged in any impropriety arising from the conflicted interests.  How the conflict is managed will be telling.  I like the folks involved, and wish them every success with this.  I have confidence that they will find the right way to handle it.

geezuz krist.  have you ever seen gmax and lukejr behave in certain situations?  they're ridiculous.  techo-commies as JR says.

A business venture that fails is a non-profit. They have zero chance of changing Bitcoin into a decentralized trading platform for speculative tokens even if regulators allow them a double standard against Bitcoin because competition. If they can do it, then a bigger fish will eat their lunch. One after the other they try and they fail to knock Bitcoin off the hill. Hopefull they will at least allow some devs to learn enough to defect and become Bitcoin core devs. Groupthink isn't for everybody. Blockstream does indeed seem to have some pretty cultish notions.

some ppl think i have an agenda here.  that's simply not true.

for evidence, look at the title of this thread and its lifetime.  the title distills in 4 words my view of Bitcoin and my vision of how it should relate to the World.  i've poured everything i have into it so it should be no surprise where i stand.