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legendary
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September 15, 2014, 01:48:04 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177


LOL!

What a FUD! It amazes me he is trying with this low quality  Shocked

Don't be too harsh it is only human to try to lower the price before buying huge amounts  Wink
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 01:37:56 PM
from the Boston Fed:  

Second, the resource cost of mining is becoming increasingly unaffordable, not to mention the inefficiency associated with this aspect of the system design. Again, it is possible that within a few years it will become infeasible to rely on this distributed model, however consolidated, to verify transactions.


if it's so unaffordable, then why does it keep doing this?:



Why can no one understand that we don't need this hashing power to secure this network?  I doubt we need 1% of what we have today, given the impact destroying it would have.  Obviously a major govt could (at great cost) 51% it.  But most governments that have the means are ultimately responsible to the people and killing BTC by 51% attack is not the legal approach they would take (as opposed to a ban).  Therefore hashing only needs to secure against a private enterprise.  When you realize that 51%ing does not allow you to steal other people's coin -- it only can be used to stop them from spending, to reap all the mining rewards and to double spend, you quickly realize that economically this is a losing proposition.
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 01:28:30 PM
I'm just glad to see you are keeping an eye on Nxt's affairs:P You'll be hearing much more about it over the next few months, I can promise you that.

I look forward to the day when we can look back and laugh at how dismissive you all were, just like the early days of bitcoin.

I've never used twitter, can twits be deleted by the owner? If not, it would be funny to bring those up from time to time in the future Smiley

i don't think they can be deleted.  here use this:

[email protected]
legendary
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Yeah! I hate ShroomsKit!
September 15, 2014, 01:26:56 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177


LOL!

What a FUD! It amazes me he is trying with this low quality  Shocked
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1002
September 15, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?
https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177
I've just compiled nxt binary from sources. It took exactly 2 seconds, compile.sh script is bundled with the package. You need JDK, not JRE.
Try it yourself, source code is included:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.2.8.zip
Garzik has no idea what he's twitting about or has an intention to spread FUD.

Obviously he was spreading FUD. Why are some people so afraid of Nxt and willing to lie?

how much of a threat must nxt be if someone as high profile as himself is so afraid that he must spread such FUD i think is the question to ask. if it wasnt a threat.. would he give two shits about nxt? i dont think so... Roll Eyes
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 01:22:36 PM
Many of the consumer available technologies are approaching a point where they need progress little farther in order to meet consumer demand.  These curves plotted on top of one another reveal the problem.  Furthermore it seems likely to me that allowing free communication between individuals is to dangerous to allow and will likely be quashed should an event which facilitates it occur.  The solution to that particular problems would be to step back and let the connected industrial players take over the infrastructure aspect of the network, but when that happens Bitcoin is closer to the USD than it is to the original implementation in my view.  Yes, it will always have some advantages (hopefully) but it is simply not a compelling solution at that point.  To me.


i don't know man.  seems the capacity for ppl to take pics and videos of themselves is unlimited.  i was shocked to hear those actresses would even allow themselves to be photo'd nude, let alone have the pics uploaded.  narcissism at it's best, i'd guess.

as for unlimited communication, i agree gvt is a clear threat.  but i don't know how you stuff it back in the bag.  we're all too used to it.  i for one, will fight to retain those freedoms.
sr. member
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Merit: 260
September 15, 2014, 01:21:51 PM
I'm just glad to see you are keeping an eye on Nxt's affairs:P You'll be hearing much more about it over the next few months, I can promise you that.

I look forward to the day when we can look back and laugh at how dismissive you all were, just like the early days of bitcoin.

I've never used twitter, can twits be deleted by the owner? If not, it would be funny to bring those up from time to time in the future Smiley
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
September 15, 2014, 01:20:13 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?
https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177
I've just compiled nxt binary from sources. It took exactly 2 seconds, compile.sh script is bundled with the package. You need JDK, not JRE.
Try it yourself, source code is included:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.2.8.zip
Garzik has no idea what he's twitting about or has an intention to spread FUD.

Obviously he was spreading FUD. Why are some people so afraid of Nxt and willing to lie?
legendary
Activity: 817
Merit: 1000
September 15, 2014, 01:20:10 PM
I'm just glad to see you are keeping an eye on Nxt's affairs:P You'll be hearing much more about it over the next few months, I can promise you that.

I look forward to the day when we can look back and laugh at how dismissive you all were, just like the early days of bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 4760
Merit: 1283
September 15, 2014, 01:16:19 PM
Oh Noes!  The block chain takes so many gigabytes now that it costs almost US$10 to store it on a thumb drive smaller than most the keys on your keychain.

Unfeasible!

They are living in the 20th century, or earlier methinks.

Not that actual bulk storage of the blockchain has ever been terribly concerning, but...

What gets me is the people who worship at the alter of Moore's law.  In my own experience, I got my first computer about 30 years ago.  I was lucky to get a floppy drive with it.  144k if I remember correctly.  I got my first PC about 20 years ago.  210M.  About 1500x.  I bought a high capacity HDD for my place of work upon starting a new job about 10 years ago.  400G.  About 1900x.  Now I think I could reasonably get a 6T drive.  About 15x.

Bitcoin is still at it's gestational stage and is a tiny baby-step toward where a reasonably large percentage of 'enthusiasts' think it ought to end up.  Many of the consumer available technologies are approaching a point where they need progress little farther in order to meet consumer demand.  These curves plotted on top of one another reveal the problem.  Furthermore it seems likely to me that allowing free communication between individuals is to dangerous to allow and will likely be quashed should an event which facilitates it occur.  The solution to that particular problems would be to step back and let the connected industrial players take over the infrastructure aspect of the network, but when that happens Bitcoin is closer to the USD than it is to the original implementation in my view.  Yes, it will always have some advantages (hopefully) but it is simply not a compelling solution at that point.  To me.

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1002
September 15, 2014, 01:13:00 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177

I've just compiled nxt binary from sources. It took exactly 2 seconds, compile.sh script is bundled with the package. You need JDK, not JRE.
Try it yourself, source code is included:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.2.8.zip

Garzik has no idea what he's twitting about or has an intention to spread FUD.

FUD would be my guess.. have you seen him WRONGLY attack any other coins as of late? nope.. didnt think so.. wouldnt be so bad if it was actually true.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 15, 2014, 12:56:31 PM
from the Boston Fed:  

Second, the resource cost of mining is becoming increasingly unaffordable, not to mention the inefficiency associated with this aspect of the system design. Again, it is possible that within a few years it will become infeasible to rely on this distributed model, however consolidated, to verify transactions.


if it's so unaffordable, then why does it keep doing this?:

sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 260
September 15, 2014, 12:48:44 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177

I've just compiled nxt binary from sources. It took exactly 2 seconds, compile.sh script is bundled with the package. You need JDK, not JRE.
Try it yourself, source code is included:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.2.8.zip

Garzik has no idea what he's twitting about or has an intention to spread FUD.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 15, 2014, 12:30:06 PM
ok NXT, when are you going to get it together?

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511566276255154177
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 12:27:56 PM


legendary
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September 15, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
Oh Noes! 

i love your humor Cheesy

or maybe you're just a cocky ass troll, like me, according to notme. Grin
legendary
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Gresham's Lawyer
September 15, 2014, 12:22:54 PM
Oh Noes!  The block chain takes so many gigabytes now that it costs almost US$10 to store it on a thumb drive smaller than most the keys on your keychain.

Unfeasible!

They are living in the 20th century, or earlier methinks.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
September 15, 2014, 12:08:14 PM
from the Boston Fed:  

The Bitcoin network as originally designed, and especially its associated digital currency, will probably not survive in the long run. Some serious design flaws of the current Bitcoin system have been identified, and some of them may eventually prove fatal.

First, realistic growth projections of the scale of the blockchain indicate that it will likely become infeasible for individual users to store the data on their personal computers, and this may happen as soon as within a year or two. Currently, it already requires nearly 10 gigabytes of hard drive space to store the entire blockchain.

Second, the resource cost of mining is becoming increasingly unaffordable, not to mention the inefficiency associated with this aspect of the system design. Again, it is possible that within a few years it will become infeasible to rely on this distributed model, however consolidated, to verify transactions.


clearly, i don't agree with this.  their concerns have been addressed many times here in the forums.  plus, i think the Fed seriously underestimates the drive of the ppl to regain control of their money (wealth and capital).  

in fact i'll go as far as to repeat what i've said before:  The blockchain may only ever be applicable to Bitcoin as Money-cypherdoc

this is why we're all here in the first place.

http://www.bostonfed.org/economic/current-policy-perspectives/2014/cpp1404.pdf


So childish those non-arguments!

That really does not sound like the initial results the fed got from their analysts..

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cpew8/game_changer_bitcoin_research_at_the_federal/

Probably buried the real deal. ^^

ps: reddit source, not sure if true, although the guy wrote in a very good english and puts relative efforts into proving his point and identity.

thanks for reminding me of that.

i find it interesting that all the negative pronouncements we are getting from different countries come from their CB's.  the other gvt agencies seem to be sufficiently confused enough to go along.  the most striking example was out of China last year.  several gvt agencies actually had issued somewhat positive reports on Bitcoin.  only several months later when the PBOC weighed in did the negative propaganda start coming out of their mouths.  what do you expect?

the binary proposition with Bitcoin is so huge and the potential for so much disruption for positive good remains so high that if there is ANY chance that it can work makes it worthwhile to get involved.

and the fact of the matter is that Bitcoin looks like it is NOT going anywhere.
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 11:58:21 AM
from the Boston Fed:  

The Bitcoin network as originally designed, and especially its associated digital currency, will probably not survive in the long run. Some serious design flaws of the current Bitcoin system have been identified, and some of them may eventually prove fatal.

First, realistic growth projections of the scale of the blockchain indicate that it will likely become infeasible for individual users to store the data on their personal computers, and this may happen as soon as within a year or two. Currently, it already requires nearly 10 gigabytes of hard drive space to store the entire blockchain.

Second, the resource cost of mining is becoming increasingly unaffordable, not to mention the inefficiency associated with this aspect of the system design. Again, it is possible that within a few years it will become infeasible to rely on this distributed model, however consolidated, to verify transactions.


clearly, i don't agree with this.  their concerns have been addressed many times here in the forums.  plus, i think the Fed seriously underestimates the drive of the ppl to regain control of their money (wealth and capital).  

in fact i'll go as far as to repeat what i've said before:  The blockchain may only ever be applicable to Bitcoin as Money-cypherdoc

this is why we're all here in the first place.

http://www.bostonfed.org/economic/current-policy-perspectives/2014/cpp1404.pdf


So childish those non-arguments!

That really does not sound like the initial results the fed got from their analysts..

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cpew8/game_changer_bitcoin_research_at_the_federal/

Probably buried the real deal. ^^

ps: reddit source, not sure if true, although the guy wrote in a very good english and puts relative efforts into proving his point and identity.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
September 15, 2014, 11:52:03 AM


edit: Banks and financials services "threatening" to relocate in London if they secede... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-12/panic-streets-london-can-scotland-ever-be-same-again
That just says it all imho. ^^

yep, what caught my eye:

Crucially, since the RBS and Lloyds were both bailed out by the UK government during the financial crisis, the UK government is now a significant shareholder in both institutions, owning a whopping 80% of the RBS and 25% of Lloyds.
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