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AJRGale

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Quote from: EcuaMobi on February 25, 2015, 07:35:39 PM

Just a warning:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/B88-1-oz-100-Mils-Gold_60077398459.html

I posted it on his thread but of course it was deleted in a few seconds.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: Blazed on February 25, 2015, 07:17:03 PM

Quote from: GoldBits on February 25, 2015, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on February 25, 2015, 10:25:27 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

So far I count 15 negative feedbacks left for this guy. What happens if the gold coin turns out to be real? Will he still be branded a scammer?

It's due to be removed. I don't get why anyone would sell this way but perhaps it turns him on.

Hasn't been removed. Exactly as I predicted. What are the odds? Grin

No, the self-moderation is because I ran out of troll spray. Works just as good though!

1oz gold bars coming up for sale soon, now that I'm proven a legitimate gold seller here.

I might be interested in a gold bar. Let's see how this deals ends up first though.

Yes lets see, very doubtful about seller no doubt this will be deleted too.

Also, even if the first coin was legit, there's no guarantee the following (after he's "proven a legitimate gold seller here") are this:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/B88-1-oz-100-Mils-Gold_60077398459.html

So buying without escrow from him will always be an unacceptable risk.

Clearly his intention is to make people trust him and make them send first without escrow.

Most probably he will either run with the money or send back fake coins.

i would buy a gold bar off him, if he can prove its not a fake. but noting stops him from sending a fake too.

AJRGale

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im just sitting here waiting for the "..and the coin is fake" post

but only if elianite didn't feel embarrassed by it..

i wish i was in elianite shoes too, willing to throw a few btc at someone looking so fishy like that.

EcuaMobi

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Just a warning:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/B88-1-oz-100-Mils-Gold_60077398459.html

I posted it on his thread but of course it was deleted in a few seconds.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: Blazed on February 25, 2015, 07:17:03 PM

Quote from: GoldBits on February 25, 2015, 06:29:12 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on February 25, 2015, 10:25:27 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

So far I count 15 negative feedbacks left for this guy. What happens if the gold coin turns out to be real? Will he still be branded a scammer?

It's due to be removed. I don't get why anyone would sell this way but perhaps it turns him on.

Hasn't been removed. Exactly as I predicted. What are the odds? Grin

No, the self-moderation is because I ran out of troll spray. Works just as good though!

1oz gold bars coming up for sale soon, now that I'm proven a legitimate gold seller here.

I might be interested in a gold bar. Let's see how this deals ends up first though.

Yes lets see, very doubtful about seller no doubt this will be deleted too.

Clearly his intention is to make people trust him and make them send first without escrow.

Most probably he will either run with the money or send back fake coins.

PenguinFire

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That Darn Cat

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on February 22, 2015, 09:40:22 PM

He's lightening fast on the delete button Shocked

Like a cowboy.

Hehe. Scammers are very watchful because they know how active this community is.

hedgy73

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He's taking the piss now. Just deleted another of my posts in reference to this:

Quote from: GoldBits on February 25, 2015, 06:29:12 PM

Hasn't been removed. Exactly as I predicted. What are the odds? Grin

No, the self-moderation is because I ran out of troll spray. Works just as good though!

1oz gold bars coming up for sale soon, now that I'm proven a legitimate gold seller here.

'You're not proved anything until the coin you sent is tested and even then it could be a scam to sell fake stuff in the future. Deleting posts is a sure fire way to show you're hiding something and probably a scammer.'

tins

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Quote from: hedgy73 on February 25, 2015, 05:29:24 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on February 25, 2015, 05:23:08 PM

Quote from: hedgy73 on February 25, 2015, 05:07:33 PM

Well the coin certainly looks the part.

I really don't know why GoldBits started a self moderated thread with a new account and deleted so many posts mostly of which I could see no harm in to sell a coin well under market value.

This all seems very strange to me Huh

It adds up to nothing but future sketchiness to me, but maybe the seller had a stroke and was a horrible person before and now wants to make amends by selling under market by self moderating and refusing to escrow.

. Looking at the pictures in his selling thread it looks like he's got some gold bars too which if he was looking to sell in the future would have been much easier if he'd gone about this the right way. I hate self moderated threads especially from newbies it gives me the impression they are nothing but scammers deleting anything that may disrupt their scam.

Also likely to be a long term scam. Act sketchy now, but everything turns out authentic. Then, when he's acting sketchy later, unloading the fake stuff in those pictures (http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-NO-COPY-1-oz-Gold_60169167290.html), people will say "that's just the way he acts, it's sure to be legit".
Either way, the whole thing is off.

hedgy73

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Looks like he has some gold bars as well from the picture on the other thread.

If he was thinking about selling them in the future it would have been much easier had he gone about this in the proper way.

Deleting posts on his thread just makes people suspicious.

Bet he's gutted he cant delete these comments Grin

tins

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Quote from: the joint on February 25, 2015, 04:38:46 PM

An odd post that was just deleted from his thread. Sketchy behavior even if the transaction is successful. Noted.

Quote from: GoldBits on February 25, 2015, 11:35:15 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

So far I count 15 negative feedbacks left for this guy. What happens if the gold coin turns out to be real? Will he still be branded a scammer?

Wise man say, troll with egg on face won't remove red trust. Grin

Sad thing is, aside from refusing anonymous escrow (which is a forum guideline & NOT a rule) this has been such an easy & clean transaction. Great communication from both sides (with expectations clearly set out), payment sent promptly, item shipped promptly. His BTC remaining unspent as promised...

Now we just wait for delivery & confirmation today (within 24 hours of the sale)! Honestly, it's been like clockwork!

That's why the trolls are resorting to elaborate conspiracy theories. What else can you do when a transaction goes this smoothly?? Grin

You seem coherent and composed, so you should be able to at least understand why so many of us would assume this is a scam, in process. (It may very well not be, but you have to admit it is understandable by selling at a couple hundred dollars under dealer cost, with a new account and no escrow).
If it turns out that you are legit and go on to have a few successful transactions with coins and bullion coming back as authentic, I will humbly quote my post (#39) and publicly apologize.
Until then, it seems too far out there selling below pawn shop prices.

Very odd, very sketchy.

markj113

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deleted my post too linking here for the coin pics.

Very strange guy

hedgy73

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Buyer received his authentic coin today. I'd say that turned out good!

GoldBits has deleted 3 of my recent posts on his thread.

hedgy73

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Quote from: TookDk on February 25, 2015, 05:31:36 PM

Quote from: bithalo on February 25, 2015, 05:27:25 PM

--snip
Elianite has been on the Goods sub-forum for a while now, and I have PM'd with him several times before. I don't think he is affiliated with GoldBits.
--snip

I agree to this.

I would have no 2nd thoughts about adding Elianite to my trust network.

Couldn't agree more with both of you he seems a good guy.

TookDk

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One coin to rule them all

Quote from: bithalo on February 25, 2015, 05:27:25 PM

--snip
Elianite has been on the Goods sub-forum for a while now, and I have PM'd with him several times before. I don't think he is affiliated with GoldBits.
--snip

I agree to this.

I would have no 2nd thoughts about adding Elianite to my trust network.

hedgy73

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Quote from: gentlemand on February 25, 2015, 05:23:08 PM

Quote from: hedgy73 on February 25, 2015, 05:07:33 PM

TookDk

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One coin to rule them all

Congrats on that beautiful coin elianite

I have my self been looking to pick up a buffalo, but got panda's instead.

With the price you paid, you should have margin to carry out some of the testing that Mark suggested.
A experience bullion dealer could properly by experience determine the authenticity with a magnifier.
My suggestion is not to confirm if the seller is legit or not, but simple so you will sleep better at night

Cheers

Edit: You got balls

bithalo

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Star Wars Ep. 9 is here

Elianite has been on the Goods sub-forum for a while now, and I have PM'd with him several times before. I don't think he is affiliated with GoldBits.

Personally I would not risk buying the coin, as there are too many red flags. But perhaps he felt the risk was worth it to him.

Lets give this a chance, and see how it pans out. I hope it works out for elianite. But even if it does, I still wouldn't buy from GoldBits.

On Youtube, I've also seen tests besides drilling, including ultrasound, and simply letting the coin fall and listening for its metallic sound.

gentlemand

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Welt Am Draht

Quote from: hedgy73 on February 25, 2015, 05:07:33 PM

hedgy73

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the joint

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An odd post that was just deleted from his thread. Sketchy behavior even if the transaction is successful. Noted.

the joint

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Quote from: markj113 on February 25, 2015, 03:14:33 PM

the coin looks right, showing slightly under weight as it should be 31.1g but could be scales accuracy but tungsten core coins are very close in dimensions & weight.

Changing my feedback to neutral, OP has delivered the coin as promised, authenticity still to be proven.

Not giving positive or completely removing feedback as lack of Escrow is a worry and could be a long con.

Will be interesting what price the maple grams sell at as Goldbits stated he did not have them in hand so selling at below retail price would be a concern.

Any chance of some clear face on pics of the coin and not angled shots.

Interesting. I, too, will alter my feedback if this pans out well.

markj113

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Any bullion dealer or slightly larger pawn shop should be able to xrf/ultrasonic test it, usually for free too if you tell them you are thinking of selling it Wink

XRF/ultrasonic is a non destructive test, plenty of vids online.

With tungsten coins the usual scratch and acid test wont really work as they are heavy gold plated (+ the scratch and acid will spoil the coin)

Couple of tests you can do at home -

Check dimensions with digital calipers if available
Accurate weight check
Specific gravity test
Magnetic test
Detail check of coins fonts sizing and spacing, fine coin details against high res online picture.

A good tungsten copy would pass all the above tests though.

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