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Quote from: Snorek on January 17, 2017, 05:50:34 PM

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Quote from: gabmen on January 17, 2017, 03:18:37 AM

Yeah i agree. I think too much bkame has been directed to obama here. Yeah there are some things he did which also didn't sit well with me but let's be honest here, there's more to give credit to thus guy than what is being given. He's a lot better than bush if you ask me

Bush was horrible, and Obama was even worse. Hillary would have been even more terrible, but she lost. Let's look at the stats from Obama's term. He managed to double the federal debt to almost $20 trillion. Do you really think that this is a good move?

Do you think Trump will manage to lower the debt during his first term? I am afraid this is impossible at this point.
US entered debt spiral and no matter what future president will do, debt gain can't be reversed it will only grow, maybe slower, but grow nonetheless.

At least he will be able to prevent the federal debt from ballooning even further. If the GDP grows, and the federal debt remains stable, then the debt to GDP ratio will improve. This will do wonders for the US economy.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 17, 2017, 10:46:41 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 17, 2017, 10:33:37 AM

Yeah let's be honest. A president who is so self centered he can't spend a little time fixing up and helping his own home town is damn near hopeless.

How can you blame Obama for the troubles in Chicago? Don't you know that Obama was playing golf in Hawaii when he was supposed to fix the issues in Chicago? It is not his fault. Chicago is on its way to become another Detoilet. Obama is helpless to prevent this from happening. Anyway.. playing golf with various foreign dignitaries helped to strengthen the foreign relations by a good amount, according to the MSM.

In his own mind he was helpless.

Take for example Lyndon Johnson. Responsible for the Apollo program certainly.

But he made sure that the Space Center was put in Houston, Texas. his home state.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 17, 2017, 06:56:53 AM

Quote from: gabmen on January 17, 2017, 03:18:37 AM

Yeah i agree. I think too much bkame has been directed to obama here. Yeah there are some things he did which also didn't sit well with me but let's be honest here, there's more to give credit to thus guy than what is being given. He's a lot better than bush if you ask me

Bush was horrible, and Obama was even worse. Hillary would have been even more terrible, but she lost. Let's look at the stats from Obama's term. He managed to double the federal debt to almost $20 trillion. Do you really think that this is a good move?

Do you think Trump will manage to lower the debt during his first term? I am afraid this is impossible at this point.
US entered debt spiral and no matter what future president will do, debt gain can't be reversed it will only grow, maybe slower, but grow nonetheless.

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Quote from: dirokkl on January 17, 2017, 05:02:19 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 17, 2017, 10:46:41 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 17, 2017, 10:33:37 AM

Yeah let's be honest. A president who is so self centered he can't spend a little time fixing up and helping his own home town is damn near hopeless.

How can you blame Obama for the troubles in Chicago? Don't you know that Obama was playing golf in Hawaii when he was supposed to fix the issues in Chicago? It is not his fault. Chicago is on its way to become another Detoilet. Obama is helpless to prevent this from happening. Anyway.. playing golf with various foreign dignitaries helped to strengthen the foreign relations by a good amount, according to the MSM.

You seriously think that Trump will be able to restore the American auto industry? As you will be able to compete with Japanese cars made in Asia? Unfortunately, if you move to America it ruined. It will be even worse.

Trump is able. I don't know if he will.

How to do it? Drop income taxes altogether. Let the only taxes come from import/export. That way jobs will come back to America, including industry.

Cool

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 17, 2017, 10:46:41 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 17, 2017, 10:33:37 AM

Yeah let's be honest. A president who is so self centered he can't spend a little time fixing up and helping his own home town is damn near hopeless.

How can you blame Obama for the troubles in Chicago? Don't you know that Obama was playing golf in Hawaii when he was supposed to fix the issues in Chicago? It is not his fault. Chicago is on its way to become another Detoilet. Obama is helpless to prevent this from happening. Anyway.. playing golf with various foreign dignitaries helped to strengthen the foreign relations by a good amount, according to the MSM.

You seriously think that Trump will be able to restore the American auto industry? As you will be able to compete with Japanese cars made in Asia? Unfortunately, if you move to America it ruined. It will be even worse.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 17, 2017, 07:20:11 AM

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Quote from: gabmen on January 17, 2017, 03:18:37 AM

Yeah i agree. I think too much bkame has been directed to obama here. Yeah there are some things he did which also didn't sit well with me but let's be honest here, there's more to give credit to thus guy than what is being given. He's a lot better than bush if you ask me

Bush was horrible, and Obama was even worse. Hillary would have been even more terrible, but she lost. Let's look at the stats from Obama's term. He managed to double the federal debt to almost $20 trillion. Do you really think that this is a good move?

Will the CIA assassinate Trump?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/will-the-cia-assassinate-trump-ron-paul-warns-of-more-powerful-shadow-1755512

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If that happens within the next four years which anything can happen then his vice president will become president. Then where will the states be once that happens?

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Quote from: Spendulus on January 17, 2017, 10:33:37 AM

Yeah let's be honest. A president who is so self centered he can't spend a little time fixing up and helping his own home town is damn near hopeless.

How can you blame Obama for the troubles in Chicago? Don't you know that Obama was playing golf in Hawaii when he was supposed to fix the issues in Chicago? It is not his fault. Chicago is on its way to become another Detoilet. Obama is helpless to prevent this from happening. Anyway.. playing golf with various foreign dignitaries helped to strengthen the foreign relations by a good amount, according to the MSM.

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Quote from: gabmen on January 17, 2017, 03:18:37 AM

Quote from: marilyngroom on January 17, 2017, 03:07:02 AM

Quote from: Dmitry.Vastov on January 12, 2017, 12:36:59 AM

Quote from: Emoclaw on January 11, 2017, 07:19:30 PM

Quote from: Racey on January 11, 2017, 07:15:06 PM

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

I had these questions as well, and here's what I found: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ (legit site)

Lol. Thats a good one.
I have not seen anything good in his country. Look at Chicago. This proves that he is not a effective president.
He likes also to interfere on affairs of any country(especially on Philippines). He thinks that he is superior enough to do that.
Hope this current administration is different.

Look at Chicago. That's like blaming the President of the United State that some random teen overdosed in some obscure town in Kentucky. What is he supposed to do? Check in every night on that teen? Or go get a police uniform and patrol the police of Chicago. The United States is big country.

Yeah i agree. I think too much bkame has been directed to obama here. Yeah there are some things he did which also didn't sit well with me but let's be honest here, there's more to give credit to thus guy than what is being given. He's a lot better than bush if you ask me

Yeah let's be honest. A president who is so self centered he can't spend a little time fixing up and helping his own home town is damn near hopeless.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 17, 2017, 06:56:53 AM

Quote from: gabmen on January 17, 2017, 03:18:37 AM

Yeah i agree. I think too much bkame has been directed to obama here. Yeah there are some things he did which also didn't sit well with me but let's be honest here, there's more to give credit to thus guy than what is being given. He's a lot better than bush if you ask me

Bush was horrible, and Obama was even worse. Hillary would have been even more terrible, but she lost. Let's look at the stats from Obama's term. He managed to double the federal debt to almost $20 trillion. Do you really think that this is a good move?

Will the CIA assassinate Trump?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/will-the-cia-assassinate-trump-ron-paul-warns-of-more-powerful-shadow-1755512

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Quote from: gabmen on January 17, 2017, 03:18:37 AM

Yeah i agree. I think too much bkame has been directed to obama here. Yeah there are some things he did which also didn't sit well with me but let's be honest here, there's more to give credit to thus guy than what is being given. He's a lot better than bush if you ask me

Bush was horrible, and Obama was even worse. Hillary would have been even more terrible, but she lost. Let's look at the stats from Obama's term. He managed to double the federal debt to almost $20 trillion. Do you really think that this is a good move?

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Good bye our dear Preident Barrack Obama thanks to your good and bad work in United States of America (USA) hope you did a lot of good work that makes more United States of America beautiful and welcome to our new President Trump i wish make you make a trusted work in USA and in that United States of America makes good but i think USA is a good and beautiful country for me

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Quote from: marilyngroom on January 17, 2017, 03:07:02 AM

Quote from: Dmitry.Vastov on January 12, 2017, 12:36:59 AM

Quote from: Emoclaw on January 11, 2017, 07:19:30 PM

Quote from: Racey on January 11, 2017, 07:15:06 PM

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

I had these questions as well, and here's what I found: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ (legit site)

Lol. Thats a good one.
I have not seen anything good in his country. Look at Chicago. This proves that he is not a effective president.
He likes also to interfere on affairs of any country(especially on Philippines). He thinks that he is superior enough to do that.
Hope this current administration is different.

Look at Chicago. That's like blaming the President of the United State that some random teen overdosed in some obscure town in Kentucky. What is he supposed to do? Check in every night on that teen? Or go get a police uniform and patrol the police of Chicago. The United States is big country.

Yeah i agree. I think too much bkame has been directed to obama here. Yeah there are some things he did which also didn't sit well with me but let's be honest here, there's more to give credit to thus guy than what is being given. He's a lot better than bush if you ask me

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Quote from: Dmitry.Vastov on January 12, 2017, 12:36:59 AM

Quote from: Emoclaw on January 11, 2017, 07:19:30 PM

Quote from: Racey on January 11, 2017, 07:15:06 PM

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

I had these questions as well, and here's what I found: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ (legit site)

Lol. Thats a good one.
I have not seen anything good in his country. Look at Chicago. This proves that he is not a effective president.
He likes also to interfere on affairs of any country(especially on Philippines). He thinks that he is superior enough to do that.
Hope this current administration is different.

Look at Chicago. That's like blaming the President of the United State that some random teen overdosed in some obscure town in Kentucky. What is he supposed to do? Check in every night on that teen? Or go get a police uniform and patrol the police of Chicago. The United States is big country.

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Quote from: Emoclaw on January 11, 2017, 07:19:30 PM

Quote from: Racey on January 11, 2017, 07:15:06 PM

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

I had these questions as well, and here's what I found: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ (legit site)

Good website, I'm going to bookmark it. And I voted for Trump because Hillary is bad. I'm a realist.

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Quote from: yugo23 on January 11, 2017, 06:12:38 PM

Quote from: BitG0ld on January 11, 2017, 04:48:23 PM

Ahah,
Well you know I got mixed feelings about this.
First I'm a European so I can't have a clear statement here because I'm not directly concerned.

What's sure is that the dude is fucking cool. But that's not the most important quality of the president.
I'm also sure that he had some great ideas, I loved most of what he thought because he had a very European approach so of course I felt closer to him than to traditional presidents. Fact is that he did nearly nothing of what he promised. Now is it because he's just a liar or because the chambers didn't allow him to act?

This I can't tell because I'm not well aware of daily American politics. But what's sure is that his presidency was a great disappointment for lots of people.

He did a lot of what he set out to do. That was I remember most about his first couple years. Surprised how he was able to get his agenda pass through.

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Quote from: andrei56 on January 16, 2017, 10:14:31 PM

Quote from: Racey on January 11, 2017, 07:15:06 PM

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

He had good intentions but that is not enough, he indebted the country like no other president and the Americans did not seem to have a lot to show for it.

Right we have nothing to show for it. But maybe partly because people realized what a disaster this was the people elected Trump. I was surprised they did this. Had no idea so many people thought the same way I did.

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Quote from: Racey on January 11, 2017, 07:15:06 PM

What good policies did he have?, what good has he done?

He had good intentions but that is not enough, he indebted the country like no other president and the Americans did not seem to have a lot to show for it.

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Quote from: mainpmf on January 16, 2017, 07:47:03 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 16, 2017, 05:03:20 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on January 16, 2017, 04:54:47 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 16, 2017, 08:58:57 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on January 16, 2017, 07:02:40 AM

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

Oh perfectly! I'm just saying that Trump is not different and that even if he was he couldn't do shit!

I never accused him of being specifically responsible for future wars, he's not even president yet it would be ridiculous xD
I'm just saying I have 0 hopes of him being a man of peace that's all.

Okay, seems fair.

I have to comment that I've seen the way Hillary's bungling started, prolonged or intensified conflict. We shouldn't have anything like that coming down. But yeah I guess you could argue it COULD be just as bad. This would be sort of like arguing if you invested in the stock market and tried to lose, you could still win. Or if you tried to win, you could still lose.

Not sure I understand the end of your sentence...
Too complicated metaphor for my little brain it seems Grin

Anyway, if I try to continue your metaphor, it's a bit like investing in stock market after the assassination of 5 different European presidents. You can say whatever you want, have the best preparation, the best arguments, the Euro is still gonna crash.
And whatever you want to do, USA is a country of war.
Americans don't even know what peace means, that would terrify them xD

I do understand what you are saying.

Rather than engage in near term guess work, why should we just revisit this question during the first 100 days?

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Quote from: Spendulus on January 16, 2017, 05:03:20 PM

Quote from: mainpmf on January 16, 2017, 04:54:47 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 16, 2017, 08:58:57 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on January 16, 2017, 07:02:40 AM

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

Oh perfectly! I'm just saying that Trump is not different and that even if he was he couldn't do shit!

I never accused him of being specifically responsible for future wars, he's not even president yet it would be ridiculous xD
I'm just saying I have 0 hopes of him being a man of peace that's all.

Okay, seems fair.

I have to comment that I've seen the way Hillary's bungling started, prolonged or intensified conflict. We shouldn't have anything like that coming down. But yeah I guess you could argue it COULD be just as bad. This would be sort of like arguing if you invested in the stock market and tried to lose, you could still win. Or if you tried to win, you could still lose.

Not sure I understand the end of your sentence...
Too complicated metaphor for my little brain it seems Grin

Anyway, if I try to continue your metaphor, it's a bit like investing in stock market after the assassination of 5 different European presidents. You can say whatever you want, have the best preparation, the best arguments, the Euro is still gonna crash.
And whatever you want to do, USA is a country of war.
Americans don't even know what peace means, that would terrify them xD

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Quote from: mainpmf on January 16, 2017, 04:54:47 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 16, 2017, 08:58:57 AM

Quote from: mainpmf on January 16, 2017, 07:02:40 AM

.....
4 things:
1/USA is a fucking warmongering country. Never have been in peace, never will. Usa people are all about bringing peace and democracy to the world, about how soldiers should be proud... You just love war, it's a cultural activity for you.
2/USA never needed a good reason to go to war. Thinking about it give me one war in whitch they were involved with a good reason except WW? (And even WW you can discuss their involvment motivations).
3/Trump is a fucking billionaire, seems like the only things he loves more than power is money. And war is the most lucrative business in USA
4/ Even if by miracle Trump was in fact not the ugly asshole he seems to be, weapon industry will never let him bring peace. Even if he was a good guy, if he tried too hard to bring soldiers back you can be sure he would be "removed" by a way or another.

USA has been proven not being a democracy. Why would it be different here?

Sounds like your complaint is with the country, not the man elected as the New President.

Oh perfectly! I'm just saying that Trump is not different and that even if he was he couldn't do shit!

I never accused him of being specifically responsible for future wars, he's not even president yet it would be ridiculous xD
I'm just saying I have 0 hopes of him being a man of peace that's all.

Okay, seems fair.

I have to comment that I've seen the way Hillary's bungling started, prolonged or intensified conflict. We shouldn't have anything like that coming down. But yeah I guess you could argue it COULD be just as bad. This would be sort of like arguing if you invested in the stock market and tried to lose, you could still win. Or if you tried to win, you could still lose.

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