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hero member
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February 17, 2012, 10:32:54 AM
Told ya.

I wonder what the backtesting would show if the opposite decision making was done:

When the EMA10 crosses over the EMA21, sell.  When the EMA21 crosses under the EMA10, buy.

The system is good as it is. BUT if I were to trade using it, I'd include some criteria for exceptions - to not make a trade on certain conditions, where other indicators tell that there will be no reversal. That was clearly the case for the last crossover.
legendary
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February 17, 2012, 10:08:08 AM

No, you'd be long from $0.50 to $15 ish, short from $15 to $2.5, then long again from $2.5 to $6 for a total profit of 132x (>10000%)...


RyNinDaCleM is correct in the context they are discussing, inau is correct if you do it right, but obviously didn't read.
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February 17, 2012, 09:49:51 AM
Told ya.

I wonder what the backtesting would show if the opposite decision making was done:

When the EMA10 crosses over the EMA21, sell.  When the EMA21 crosses under the EMA10, buy.

Bad things!
You would have been holding from $17, down to $2, and then sold.

Even on the hourly data set?  

Backtesting using the large spike during the summer is pointless.  You could randomly flip a coin to decide to buy or sell and would have won.

Absolutely! That is why I said $17 after the high.

The fast EMA was below the slow EMA 90% of the time during the summer burst. Sure, there would have been a few opportunities, but I think the losses would have far outweighed any profits you would have seen. Think about false cross-overs!

This is the daily (since I can't set it for hourly that far back). But, you can still see that you would have been holding a lot, and very little profit taking



You would have been short for the rise from $.50 to $32.
You would have also been long from the middle of August through the end of October.

No, you'd be long from $0.50 to $15 ish, short from $15 to $2.5, then long again from $2.5 to $6 for a total profit of 132x (>10000%)...
legendary
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Legen -wait for it- dary
February 17, 2012, 09:22:03 AM
Told ya.

I wonder what the backtesting would show if the opposite decision making was done:

When the EMA10 crosses over the EMA21, sell.  When the EMA21 crosses under the EMA10, buy.

Bad things!
You would have been holding from $17, down to $2, and then sold.

Even on the hourly data set?  

Backtesting using the large spike during the summer is pointless.  You could randomly flip a coin to decide to buy or sell and would have won.

Absolutely! That is why I said $17 after the high.

The fast EMA was below the slow EMA 90% of the time during the summer burst. Sure, there would have been a few opportunities, but I think the losses would have far outweighed any profits you would have seen. Think about false cross-overs!

This is the daily (since I can't set it for hourly that far back). But, you can still see that you would have been holding a lot, and very little profit taking



You would have been short for the rise from $.50 to $32.
You would have also been long from the middle of August through the end of October.
hero member
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February 17, 2012, 08:49:48 AM
Told ya.

I wonder what the backtesting would show if the opposite decision making was done:

When the EMA10 crosses over the EMA21, sell.  When the EMA21 crosses under the EMA10, buy.

Bad things!
You would have been holding from $17, down to $2, and then sold.

Even on the hourly data set?  

Backtesting using the large spike during the summer is pointless.  You could randomly flip a coin to decide to buy or sell and would have won.
hero member
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Shame on everything; regret nothing.
February 17, 2012, 08:47:41 AM
Told ya.

I wonder what the backtesting would show if the opposite decision making was done:

When the EMA10 crosses over the EMA21, sell.  When the EMA21 crosses under the EMA10, buy.

Bad things!
You would have been holding from $17, down to $2, and then sold.

buy high, sell low  Grin
legendary
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Legen -wait for it- dary
February 17, 2012, 08:44:39 AM
Told ya.

I wonder what the backtesting would show if the opposite decision making was done:

When the EMA10 crosses over the EMA21, sell.  When the EMA21 crosses under the EMA10, buy.

Bad things!
You would have been holding from $17, down to $2, and then sold.
hero member
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Merit: 500
February 17, 2012, 08:20:23 AM
Told ya.

I wonder what the backtesting would show if the opposite decision making was done:

When the EMA10 crosses over the EMA21, sell.  When the EMA21 crosses under the EMA10, buy.
hero member
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February 17, 2012, 07:02:25 AM
Told ya.
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Shame on everything; regret nothing.
donator
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February 17, 2012, 05:12:15 AM


hero member
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February 17, 2012, 04:53:34 AM
You should now be long.

and burned badly by doing this...

Yep... Not as badly as I was last night by a false long crossover (i'm using different numbers), so... count yourself lucky and get out fast and maybe wait a candle past the cross.
hero member
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February 17, 2012, 04:44:30 AM
You should now be long.

and burned badly by doing this...
sr. member
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February 16, 2012, 10:43:12 PM
The hourly short trade should now be closed for a profit of around 20% x leverage employed.

You should now be long.
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February 16, 2012, 09:13:57 PM


Wake up all you little Goomboos.



The Couch Strategy is saying BUY BUY BUY! Grin
legendary
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February 16, 2012, 08:48:07 PM


Wake up all you little Goomboos.

legendary
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February 15, 2012, 11:50:27 PM
yep hourly, it's on the cusp atm, neck & neck



That is a rather predictable effect of a bunch o' traders adopting this strategy...

Yep.. they called me crazy when I said that before, but I've seen it several times since and I'm convinced.

When enough people start trading this way I will use the EMA9/20 crossover.

One step ahead...
hero member
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February 15, 2012, 09:27:25 PM
yep hourly, it's on the cusp atm, neck & neck



That is a rather predictable effect of a bunch o' traders adopting this strategy...

Yep.. they called me crazy when I said that before, but I've seen it several times since and I'm convinced.

When enough people start trading this way I will use the EMA9/20 crossover.
sr. member
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February 15, 2012, 08:08:52 PM
This trade is unusually successful - according to my chart (Bitcoin Charts), you should still be short and sitting on an unrealized profit of around 20%.

Regardless, stay disciplined and wait for the crossover before exiting.
legendary
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February 15, 2012, 05:23:52 PM
yep hourly, it's on the cusp atm, neck & neck



That is a rather predictable effect of a bunch o' traders adopting this strategy...

Yep.. they called me crazy when I said that before, but I've seen it several times since and I'm convinced.
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