gpu bubble well and truly bursting - page 7.

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Quote from: Pennywis3 on September 28, 2017, 02:08:06 AM

Quote from: QuintLeo on September 27, 2017, 07:58:43 PM

Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Where dude?

Newegg - but I'm in the US, you EU types seem to get shafted on pricing due to your generally very high taxes like VAT.

My Aorus in the gaming machine runs at 65-66C under full ZEC mining load, not "about 70" - but it's in a case with good cooling in an air-conditioned environment.
I DO have it set up for 100% TDP, a mild core overclock, and my usual fan profile in Afterburner.

The Zotac 1080 and 1070 mini cards run reasonably cool, but they're at a lot lower TDP than a 1080ti has to deal with and all 3 models appear to use the SAME identical cooler.
I'd expect the 1080ti model to run quite a bit hotter.

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Quote from: CjMapope on September 27, 2017, 03:17:27 AM

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 26, 2017, 05:44:26 PM

that was before cards had gone wild in price. I recently got a zotac 1080 ti mini for 739 - 60 = 679 - 50 = 629

Philip, how are those Zotac mini 1080Ti cooling wise?
Is the cooler efficient for mining compared to other, bigger 1080Ti's?

i was looking at those, would LOVE to have x6 for my Mintcell flow case, would look so bomb Cheesy

no RGB tho, thats sad haha, but im vain like that sometimes with my cards, especially if im doing specific custom "aesthetic" builds ;p

Uber Profitability comes and goes, but the "bubble" will never "burst" ;p another day, another opportunity for a miner, imo

Read a few reviews, unfortunately the card runs hot. Just as hot as founders blower edition, in some cases even hotter.
Aorus or Evga cards run about 70C under load, while the mini goes to 84-85C, which is a bit too much for mining i guess.

Too bad as it realy is a sexy card

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i havent mined eth since early this year. there are better coins to mine with higher rewards and more hodlability.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on September 27, 2017, 07:58:43 PM

Quote from: bearsworth on September 27, 2017, 07:46:06 PM

Quote from: hanskan on September 27, 2017, 05:12:22 AM

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon Cheesy

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Where dude?

In EU, 1080Ti's are going for 800-850$, about 720 euros+, and those are the cheap Inno3d ones, which noone wants to buy.
If you're looking at the good ones, Evga, Aorus, Zotac etc. you're looking at 900$++

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Quote from: bearsworth on September 27, 2017, 08:16:30 PM

Quote from: QuintLeo on September 27, 2017, 07:58:43 PM

Quote from: bearsworth on September 27, 2017, 07:46:06 PM

Quote from: hanskan on September 27, 2017, 05:12:22 AM

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon Cheesy

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Well we can always try to spread FUD

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Youre Irritating bro, $500 1080ti? really? GTFO lol

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Quote from: QuintLeo on September 27, 2017, 07:58:43 PM

Quote from: bearsworth on September 27, 2017, 07:46:06 PM

Quote from: hanskan on September 27, 2017, 05:12:22 AM

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon Cheesy

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

Well we can always try to spread FUD

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Quote from: bearsworth on September 27, 2017, 07:46:06 PM

Quote from: hanskan on September 27, 2017, 05:12:22 AM

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon Cheesy

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

Probability ZERO as long as it is the current "top gaming card".

Be happy it's back in the $700 or a bit under range again, where it was in January.

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Quote from: hanskan on September 27, 2017, 05:12:22 AM

just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon Cheesy

Dude stop copying. I just sold some too. Let them panic sell. We need gtx 1080ti going for $500 and less.

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Quote from: btcgolong on September 26, 2017, 10:48:19 PM

Quote from: hanskan on September 26, 2017, 07:08:48 PM

Quote from: zer0k on September 25, 2017, 04:52:08 PM

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

bubble bursting has nothing to do with cost of GPU. How do you even come to that conclusion ? Huh

They are talking about the cost of GPUs, that started to go up in price at the beginning of the year (or was it March?) because of increased mining demand. Not a coin bubble. For a while it was impossible to find some GPUs.

Late Febuary/early March timeframe for AMD RX 470/480/570/580 cards as I recall, about a month later the price on those got so high that the NVidia GTX 1070 and then 1060 cards started getting affected as well.
Look for when the big ETH price spike started, add about a week for the initial GPU price climb to start, 2 weeks later the shortage was in full swing and the prices were going through the roof - then ballpark 5-6 weeks later is when NVidia started getting noticeably hit on the 1070, add a couple more weeks and the 1060 started getting hit noticeably.

Never had a noticeable direct effect on the GTX 1080 or GTX 1080ti (By the time the good NVidia ZEC miners started showing up, prices had flattened out and the overall demand was starting to drop) but there may have been some indirect effect from gamers that WANTED the 1070 and decided to "move up" when the 1070 price got into 1080 levels, or due to massive widespread 1070 shortages.

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just transferred zec to polo, will cash in and buy 3 more 1080ti, anyone wanna sell theirs cause whole cryptoworld is going to collapse very soon Cheesy

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In my country GPUs are slowly starting to flood the market. We have a facebook group for miners and suddenly everyone is selling their mining rigs. Funny how people are acting as predicted. You'd think the people who are getting into mining are tech savvy and at least know how to plan and research. Apparently not.

Let the panic subside. Mining is long term guys. Very good ETH speculation by next month.

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Quote from: lycipher on September 27, 2017, 04:01:46 AM

It's a matter of time now until GPU miners will start selling their used cards. I doubt they will meet any demand from gamers as it's a pretty risky shot to buy some used GPU now.
So, maybe those who still have factory warranty for their GPUs will be lucky enough to sell their cards now until the price for used cards has reached its bottom.

Care to elaborate how you got to this conclusion ?

Are you just jealous because you can't afford a GPU or few and now just FUDing like madman ?

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It's a matter of time now until GPU miners will start selling their used cards. I doubt they will meet any demand from gamers as it's a pretty risky shot to buy some used GPU now.
So, maybe those who still have factory warranty for their GPUs will be lucky enough to sell their cards now until the price for used cards has reached its bottom.

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Quote from: Pennywis3 on September 27, 2017, 03:03:26 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on September 26, 2017, 05:44:26 PM

that was before cards had gone wild in price. I recently got a zotac 1080 ti mini for 739 - 60 = 679 - 50 = 629

Philip, how are those Zotac mini 1080Ti cooling wise?
Is the cooler efficient for mining compared to other, bigger 1080Ti's?

i was looking at those, would LOVE to have x6 for my Mintcell flow case, would look so bomb Cheesy

no RGB tho, thats sad haha, but im vain like that sometimes with my cards, especially if im doing specific custom "aesthetic" builds ;p

Uber Profitability comes and goes, but the "bubble" will never "burst" ;p another day, another opportunity for a miner, imo

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 26, 2017, 05:44:26 PM

that was before cards had gone wild in price. I recently got a zotac 1080 ti mini for 739 - 60 = 679 - 50 = 629

Philip, how are those Zotac mini 1080Ti cooling wise?
Is the cooler efficient for mining compared to other, bigger 1080Ti's?

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Quote from: hanskan on September 26, 2017, 07:08:48 PM

Quote from: zer0k on September 25, 2017, 04:52:08 PM

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

bubble bursting has nothing to do with cost of GPU. How do you even come to that conclusion ? Huh

They are talking about the cost of GPUs, that started to go up in price at the beginning of the year (or was it March?) because of increased mining demand. Not a coin bubble. For a while it was impossible to find some GPUs.

I've noticed a small price drop at my local store and there is more supply...

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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?

Mining always ends up being a mean function of hardware price and cost of power.

I'd call it a profitability wave; not a bubble. Bubbles are things like quantitative easing, credit and bailouts.... more than they are likened to alt coin mining.

The still high price of gpu means there is still a demand that outweighs the availability of asics on hand/in manufacture. Once a new tier to take foot is conceived, price will lower as usual.... Or if demand finally slows down.

I see the profitability still rippling as people are buying and putting more gear online concurrently. Soon when it plateaus, you will see a decline in gpu cost. Sadly I think many stressed/overclocked things like 1080ti's will go for sale as used, but people will just want too damned much of them

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Quote from: zer0k on September 25, 2017, 04:52:08 PM

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

bubble bursting has nothing to do with cost of GPU. How do you even come to that conclusion ? Huh

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Quote from: zer0k on September 26, 2017, 03:41:05 PM

Quote from: QuintLeo on September 26, 2017, 03:17:02 PM

Quote from: zer0k on September 25, 2017, 04:52:08 PM

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

Odd, I've NEVER seen any of those cards in those price ranges.

1080ti pricing has been back to the pre-price-jump pricing for a month or more already (though availability is still a LITTLE spotty at times), 1070 and 1080 are still at a SMALL premium but at least part of that is probably the recent NVidia "price hike due to ram pricing".

The bubble can be said to have finally died when we see AMD 470/570 cards start showing up well under $200 (my pair of Sapphire ref-type blower cards cost me around $160 each from NewEgg) and 480/580 cards start showing up close to or under $200 WITH MOST MODELS BEING IN STOCK REGULARLY.

You need to look harder then Cheesy

https://hardforum.com/threads/gtx-1080-for-420-at-ebay.1928637/

I'm waiting for 1080ti FE cards to go back to the low 600's on sale

I sometimes get a 1080ti new for 625 to 650 after coupons

but I did get 1x asus 1080ti blower style for 639 -64 = 575 with six months to pay no interest. new

that was before cards had gone wild in price. I recently got a zotac 1080 ti mini for 739 - 60 = 679 - 50 = 629

but that 50 was a rebate gift card for other 1080tis so 679 was true price. for new 1080ti

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Quote from: QuintLeo on September 26, 2017, 03:17:02 PM

Quote from: zer0k on September 25, 2017, 04:52:08 PM

The "bubble" has burst when we see new 1070's @ $320 or less, 1080's @ $420 or less, and 1080 ti's dropping into the low $600's

Odd, I've NEVER seen any of those cards in those price ranges.

1080ti pricing has been back to the pre-price-jump pricing for a month or more already (though availability is still a LITTLE spotty at times), 1070 and 1080 are still at a SMALL premium but at least part of that is probably the recent NVidia "price hike due to ram pricing".

The bubble can be said to have finally died when we see AMD 470/570 cards start showing up well under $200 (my pair of Sapphire ref-type blower cards cost me around $160 each from NewEgg) and 480/580 cards start showing up close to or under $200 WITH MOST MODELS BEING IN STOCK REGULARLY.

You need to look harder then Cheesy

https://hardforum.com/threads/gtx-1080-for-420-at-ebay.1928637/

I'm waiting for 1080ti FE cards to go back to the low 600's on sale

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