Topic: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED - page 3. (Read 5336 times)

How are you involved in WAC and the great mango ponzi?

Well I messaged bitenvy. No response. So I will plan for the peeling next weekend I will put a countdown timer on when I figure out how.

Everyday I check here I hope to see the probelm has been resolved but Gravitate is doing everything possible to not make that happen.

Just send him his btc and get it over with.

Your English skills seem worse off, in my opinion. I'm catching 8 mistakes via Grammarly from your post, and absolutely none from ab8989's post. How ironic, hm?

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The only grammatical issue that I might have with ab8989's reply is that they are missing an "a" between "It might be" and "better explanation"

Let's analyze yours:

lol  i was knowing my english isnt  good ... but your is completely broken dude .. did you tried grammarly ?

• 1. "i" should be capitalized
• 2. "was knowing" should be "know"
• 3. "english" should be capitalized to "English"
• 4. "isnt" should be "isn't"
• 5. "your is" should be "your's is"
• 6. ".." should be either a period or an ellipsis
• 7. Given 6, "did" should be capitalized.
• 8. "you tried" should be "you try"
• 9. Lots of spacing issues before and after punctuation

** I would personally add a comma after "broken" and before "dude" but it's not completely necessary. Also, Grammarly should probably be capitalized.

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Back on topic: I await the peeling of the hologram and the conclusion of what OP requires from him.

lol   i was knowing my english isnt  good ... but your is completely broken dude .. did you tried grammarly ?    https://app.grammarly.com/   

No. Not better. It might be better explanation although I am not sure about the word "better" in that context either. I don't remember using that word.

whaaaaat ? !   gravitate a scammer   WTF ? !! GRAVITATE ISN'T A SCAMMER !!!

hey guys !   Just stop and think for a minute. Gravitate isn't and has never been a scammer. Get back to reality.
i cant beleive it... 

Thank you for your views on the matter. Its a little hard to understand because of your use of the English language but I think I got the main idea. You think its better to try scam someone as opposed to making mistakes. I can't say I fully agree with you on that but it sure is something to think about!

Look. You already admitted that you made several mistakes and stupid decisions for example not keeping proper books on what is going on and changing colour coding midstream to be something else than advertized. Mistakes cost money. It is totally unreasonable to expect to be able to make this many mistakes and stupid decisions without it costing you money. Do not make mistakes or stupid decisions is the lesson here.

That being said whether it was a mistake or a scam cannot be argued on how dumb it would be. I would think it would be dumber to make this many mistakes and stupid decisions compared to being a failed scammer that got cought. At least being a scammer there would be some quarter-sensible motive trying to do things like this rather than just being plain dumb.

OK I sent him a PM to ask.

This doesn't seem to be true to me. If person A was supposed to get a coin that was funded, but it was empty, that person has also lost money (not to mention reputation when re-selling it unknowingly as funded while it was unfunded).

You should check in with OP via PM (if possible) to see what they find acceptable first, then we can vouch in. Doing something that OP disagrees with won't help remedy the problem.

Yes I understand. If I am a scammer I must be the dumbest scammer in the history of Bitcoin because exposed or not exposed I am the only one who lost money- either way. If I had not refunded MinerJones and sent him some new coins. I could understand a scam accusation really I could. But I did the honest thing and I lost money and my time which right now is precious.  

I would have realised I made this mistake eventually but it could have been months away.

Anyway let me sign up to twitter and see if my phone can pick up the private key detail.

When I peel the sticker I will show half of the key, redeem the bitcoin then paste the full private key to see if  it matches with the ones I posted months ago. If that ok great if not then please let me know how I can change it.

That's a good start. So technically OP's buyer is the one that is missing the funds at the moment? I'm not entirely sure how this could be remedied as sending the funded amount to them is much different from getting a funded coin (if they have peeled it already?). I wonder what bitenvy thinks/wants after the video.

Not entirely true. There have been cases of people paying only after being exposed.

Anyway also a scammer doesn't pay people back.. before this scam accusation I had already paid back digicoinuser.
I am the only person who lost money here.

I think you are right with the understanding of the coin. I have found away to peel the stickers live.

So I will make a count down for the peeling.
I can do it on twitter live feed after checking with the suggestion. So I suggest sat or sunday

To summarize what I understood here:
Gravitate is supposed to sell coin X with Y BTC funded to bitenvy. Gravitate sells it as a funded coin. Bitenvy later sold the same coin to someone else, who discovered that it was funded with 0 BTC [1]. So either Gravitate sold coin X, but did not fund it or Gravitate sold the wrong coin (which was not funded either). Either way, if it was sold as funded, but was not, then this is the definition of a scam.

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Whether or not the intent was malicious, is not something that I want to get into (we've had enough fanboys drop in their useless comment). The question is how to completely resolve the situation?

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[1] - Correct me if I misunderstood something.

@wttbs:  + 1 !   i agree 300%


and yes ... one more time . Gravitate is an honest guy. why all this hate ?  i'm pretty sure he will find a way to proove all this noise for nothing is just bullshit..

I see almost everyone is on gravitate’s side on this issue...  


Why are you STILL NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS???  I will definitely not take this down if you keep evading my questions!



Wrong!


False!


Wrong again!  The coin funds that are on a coin that is in your possession that was supposed to be shipped to me, but wasn’t because you “lost”, “found” and “shipped”!  You don't see a problem with this?!?  I do!
    
Once again, it’s all about you!        

I will ask for the THIRD TIME…

Why didn’t you correct this before someone else found out???  Why did you let these coins just sit around knowing they were my CORRECT coins???  

This is fraudulent when you do this!  I can’t get anywhere with someone who doesn’t understand this!  So, this scam looks like it is going nowhere!  If I had kept the coin that had 0BTC (that was supposed to have funds on it) and not sold, you are telling me that is not scamming anyone, and there would have been no lost funds?  GTFO!     You are in possession of the private key (funds) that belong to me (originally).  How is this not scamming me???  The proof is in your hands!  If I sold an advertised funded coin to ANYONE that had ZERO funds on the coin and I had promised the coins were funded, but the funds/coins/private keys were in my possession still, I would be called out for this and labeled a scammer!  Why is this so hard to understand?  But, because you see everything is fine NOW with your rose colored glasses, there is no scam.  LOL          




I don’t care if someone was here for 10 or 20 years, if they did something like this, it would be the same.  It is trust as I mentioned above.  I feel like a broken record on repeat....  If you make a serious mistake like this with funding or handling of private keys (KEEPING POSSESION OF FUNDS AND THE COIN).  That is all it takes to reverse it all.  One sale (lucky me!) with a coin that I received that wasn’t funded as agreed upon!  This was it!  Ask any other coin seller how careful they are about handling the private keys and making sure they are labeling and funding of their coins.  They don’t make this mistake.  It’s pretty obvious why.  It would destroy them and their business, too!  Why should it be different for you?



You make no sense to me!!!




There you go again, asking the “moderators”…    You have options in front of you.  You decide what your do with your reputation.  To me, you already have.  You made this mistake, you aren't answering my questions and you are NOT seeing it from the same point of view as me!  You were already done with making coins anyways...

I agree too.