GREENPEACE INTENSIFIES CAMPAIGN AGAINST BITCOIN FOLLOWING ETHEREUM'S MERGE - page 5.

jackg

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Quote from: kryptqnick on September 17, 2022, 10:38:20 AM

I wish they spent money on something more meaningful, not on ads against PoW. Some are fast to attack Bitcoin because they don't like it much, don't understand it, and think they can succeed if they go against it.

If they had a project of buying up bogland so it couldn't be vandalised/burnt or actually invested in renewables or lobbying for them they'd be much more productive - especially now when oil has doubled in price at least in a lot of places.

If you complain about bitcoin being PoW on an ad, is there not.apotential you're advertising bitcoin to those who are against you too - which might be a lot of people?

Quote from: JaimeAlejandro on September 17, 2022, 10:30:07 AM

I repeat. There is no such an invention in PoS. This is the way fiat currencies and even the gold standard worked since the origins of monetary history. All modern nationalized fiat currencies (the USD, the EUR, the GBP, etc.) are already digital and working under the PoS model. Where is the innovation? Nowhere.

Based on the fact 2 companies hold 40% of the eth staking capital, it might be worse than banking as PoS and is definitely worse than customer/investor owned banks too (that used to exist and have been reinvented).

famososMuertos

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The mixture of GreenPeace, ETH, Merge and putting bitcoin at the end only shows that there is always a search for a topic to direct opinion matrices and start creating "speculation" around the real debate, the Merge and that ETH fans express their opinion.

By the way, who finances the GP campaign?

Quote from: kryptqnick on September 17, 2022, 10:38:20 AM

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Also, it would be nice if they did their research to prove that if they succeed, things will actually get better and it won't be that the dirty energy Bitcoin used would immediately get used up by other players, so it won't even make that tiny difference it's supposed to make. And, on the contrary, I've heard interesting arguments that Bitcoin can actually stimulate switch to green energy because it can be what creates demand for it.

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There is a queue of old companies in energy consumption and others that are surely yet to come, or surely many of the existing ones will grow in consumption over the years, so as you mentioned, green solutions are the way to incorporate them into a long-term solution, that is, not a punctual one as it wants to be seen with bitcoin.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on September 17, 2022, 10:38:20 AM

Climate change is real, but fighting Bitcoin won't stop it or even meaningfully make the problem smaller. There are plenty of other areas where meaningful change is possible and where advocating for change would make more sense.

Bitcoin is not the only challenge to climate change, there are many other challenges even with more effect on climate than just bitcoins. They are just a group of individuals who have misplaced priorities and have been misled because of misinformation or under information about the major causes of climate changes. If they have had proper information, they would channel their energy plus resources to campaigning about Increasing deforestation and increased combustion of coal, oil and gas which are leading causes.

kryptqnick

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I wish they spent money on something more meaningful, not on ads against PoW. Some are fast to attack Bitcoin because they don't like it much, don't understand it, and think they can succeed if they go against it. That's not possible, the consensus to move from PoW to PoS won't be reached.
Climate change is real, but fighting Bitcoin won't stop it or even meaningfully make the problem smaller. There are plenty of other areas where meaningful change is possible and where advocating for change would make more sense.
Also, it would be nice if they did their research to prove that if they succeed, things will actually get better and it won't be that the dirty energy Bitcoin used would immediately get used up by other players, so it won't even make that tiny difference it's supposed to make. And, on the contrary, I've heard interesting arguments that Bitcoin can actually stimulate switch to green energy because it can be what creates demand for it.

JaimeAlejandro

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Here is the link: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/greenpeace-intensifies-campaign-against-bitcoin-after-ethereum-merge.

They just don’t get it. Of course, it is impossible to understand something when their income depends on not understanding it. Well, this is the difference between honesty (Bitcoin) and total moral corruption (Ethereum and the rest of the fiat world).

I repeat. There is no such an invention in PoS. This is the way fiat currencies and even the gold standard worked since the origins of monetary history. All modern nationalized fiat currencies (the USD, the EUR, the GBP, etc.) are already digital and working under the PoS model. Where is the innovation? Nowhere.

This is the computer versus the typing machine, and old fogeys proposing going back to the typing machine because computers spend energy. Well, you type… I’ll use a computer. Let’s see who wins.

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