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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 01:23:45 PM

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Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Jpr hello we have a banner because we provided several variations of logos. We have advantages in our player reach because we spent thousands of euro and hundreds of man hours marketing. We weren't given advantages we did it all ourselves. I think your impression of us is that we have been given advantages over other sites. Let me tell you personally, everything we have ,we have worked hard for. I personally contacted every 3rd party site we are listed on and made arrangements with these people. You need to stop thinking betterbets.io had it easy because we didn't. We were just the first team with previous experience in our respected fields to launch a casino in a long time.

-Bjorn

hey Bjorn

what happened to you? why are you attacking me? lol because everyone is doing it?

I asked Nico a legit question and he was so nice to answer it with a very logic explanation.

what is your problem? that you have spend thousands of euro and many hours that was your decision and your risk

I never thought that you had it easy and you still don't have it easy and I know exactly what your mistake was and I am sure you know it also but I will not discuss this matter in public.

I always said in public that betterbets is the flagship app of MP and a very nice team. and in general I mean what I am saying and if I had something to say regarding betterbets I would say it.

Happy Holidays and good luck

The reason I'm saying anything to you is because you have written several times on how you feel your site wasn't given attention or that you had some kind of disadvantage. If you want attention then you have to effectively market. You have to market very hard this is a niche market and has (compared to fiat casinos) a tiny player base. The obligation to gain attention rests on you alone.
Your posts indicate that some sites seemed to get special treatment when in reality every site was treated the same. Anyway you are entitled to your own opinion but I think if you want to succeed it's best to focus energy on self promotion and eliminate negative posts.

My post wasn't an attack either but more of an informative narrative to explain why certain sites have detailed logos and info of BetterBets.

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Okay yeh, I agree for investors that is fair, so that is indeed a good reason.

Actually I have even considered "hiding" BB/MP from my site since technically I should qualify it as "new site" :X But at this point I will probably merge the stats and perhaps add some kind of notice that MP has new owners.

BTW, do you guys have already a public cold address? Also I am personally wondering who is (or will be) holding the cold wallet?

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I don't seem to find the new cold wallet address for MP, would you mind showing us your address(es) and updating the proof-of-assets.txt (it is still showing the old Ryan's address) ?

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Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

Anyway, best of luck to new MP team. The transition seemed to be smooth to me and site is running fine with some decent wagered already. So that's a good start

Quote from: MillionsBTCdev on December 25, 2015, 12:39:38 PM

Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 11:47:24 AM

Total stats is just a simple number. I cannot imagine it can bring any problem for "keeping the books orderly". Just keep the old stats in mind for administrative purposes and obv summing up all bets will lack the old stats (but isn't a problem if you keep it in mind.)

The advantage of merging the old stats is that it shows the MP apps are popular already. I assume Ryan could give the total app stats since it's not privacy sensitive and it's even still on: https://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json

But up to you guys of course Tongue

Just for the sake of discussion, why cant you just take the record from http://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json then add or merge it with http://moneypot.com/full-stats.json ? This way you still have the old stats plus the new ones.Like jpr said its gonna take extra advertising again just to be able to reach your list. And it means alot for an app owner to be on the list of a bitcoin gambling directory site.. This gives extra exposure for the apps.

We are going forward with clean stats for a few reasons. One of them is transparency. While MoneyPot transacted over 45k in BTC, and we believe we will be able to surpass that, its misleading to have those figures posted for investors, as it doesn't reflect the current site. Another is we will be using site statistics to determine placement on featured apps (more information will be made available within the coming week).

You are welcome to use the old stats if you would like, but the official MP stats will represent what has been done since we started running the site.

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Quote from: BetterBets.io on December 25, 2015, 01:09:32 PM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 12:50:36 PM

Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Jpr hello we have a banner because we provided several variations of logos. We have advantages in our player reach because we spent thousands of euro and hundreds of man hours marketing. We weren't given advantages we did it all ourselves. I think your impression of us is that we have been given advantages over other sites. Let me tell you personally, everything we have ,we have worked hard for. I personally contacted every 3rd party site we are listed on and made arrangements with these people. You need to stop thinking betterbets.io had it easy because we didn't. We were just the first team with previous experience in our respected fields to launch a casino in a long time.

-Bjorn

hey Bjorn

what happened to you? why are you attacking me? lol because everyone is doing it?

I asked Nico a legit question and he was so nice to answer it with a very logic explanation.

what is your problem? that you have spend thousands of euro and many hours that was your decision and your risk

I never thought that you had it easy and you still don't have it easy and I know exactly what your mistake was and I am sure you know it also but I will not discuss this matter in public.

I always said in public that betterbets is the flagship app of MP and a very nice team. and in general I mean what I am saying and if I had something to say regarding betterbets I would say it.

Happy Holidays and good luck

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 12:50:36 PM

Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Jpr hello we have a banner because we provided several variations of logos. We have advantages in our player reach because we spent thousands of euro and hundreds of man hours marketing. We weren't given advantages we did it all ourselves. I think your impression of us is that we have been given advantages over other sites. Let me tell you personally, everything we have ,we have worked hard for. I personally contacted every 3rd party site we are listed on and made arrangements with these people. You need to stop thinking betterbets.io had it easy because we didn't. We were just the first team with previous experience in our respected fields to launch a casino in a long time.

-Bjorn

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Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

Anyway, best of luck to new MP team. The transition seemed to be smooth to me and site is running fine with some wagered already. So that's a good start

Yes i hope they do merge it. Like you said it openly available on the link given, so they wont need ryan's approval on it. Ive also requested ryan to get a dump of the list of bets on my app just for future reference since this is also no longer available on the new stats.

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 12:52:27 PM

Quote from: MillionsBTCdev on December 25, 2015, 11:44:22 AM

If any players cant find the link for their favorite apps. I made a simple list of all apps that most probably active or has traffic before.

https://uni-games.com/mpapplist.php

-uni

thanks for posting this list. very helpful

btw your site is another dice site

but I have to say it is a very nice one

good luck

Thanks, even if im 'flying solo' i try my best to improve it.

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 12:50:36 PM

Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

Because they are the only site listed on my homepage. The homepage is a list of most popular dice sites that have been around for a decent while. In general this means a couple thousand wagered and ideally like ~100+ BTC wagered per week. There were some MP dice sites like InvestDice who had some nice wagered, but this was mostly from 1 player and not very consistent, so I wouldn't qualify it as "one of most popular dice sites". I am still considering "Dust Dice" and others but they have some real slow times too.

Besides that, your sites aren't dice sites, so wouldn't be very good for the homepage of a "dice sites" site Tongue

TBH that MP page is mostly meant for investors, so it's not really optimized for players.

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Quote from: MillionsBTCdev on December 25, 2015, 11:44:22 AM

If any players cant find the link for their favorite apps. I made a simple list of all apps that most probably active or has traffic before.

https://uni-games.com/mpapplist.php

-uni

thanks for posting this list. very helpful

btw your site is another dice site

but I have to say it is a very nice one

good luck

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Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 12:47:17 PM

Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

as you mentioned betterbets why do they have their name in a banner? could all apps have a banner of this size with their names?

NLNico

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Yes, I am planning to merge the stats on my site if MP isn't going to do it. I just don't want to spend time on it only to see them merging it after a few days Wink

so that's why I was asking about it.

To me it just doesn't make sense to see BetterBets with only 21 BTC wagered even though they already had 30k+ wagered Tongue

and same for other apps of course.

Anyway, best of luck to new MP team. The transition seemed to be smooth to me and site is running fine with some decent wagered already. So that's a good start

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Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 11:47:24 AM

Total stats is just a simple number. I cannot imagine it can bring any problem for "keeping the books orderly". Just keep the old stats in mind for administrative purposes and obv summing up all bets will lack the old stats (but isn't a problem if you keep it in mind.)

The advantage of merging the old stats is that it shows the MP apps are popular already. I assume Ryan could give the total app stats since it's not privacy sensitive and it's even still on: https://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json

But up to you guys of course Tongue

Just for the sake of discussion, why cant you just take the record from http://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json then add or merge it with http://moneypot.com/full-stats.json ? This way you still have the old stats plus the new ones.Like jpr said its gonna take extra advertising again just to be able to reach your list. And it means alot for an app owner to be on the list of a bitcoin gambling directory site.. This gives extra exposure for the apps.

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Super awesome!

Congrats to the whole team and I wish all investors and punters good variance!

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Quote from: huskypower2015 on December 25, 2015, 12:13:23 PM

Nice to see everything is up and running clean! I imagine that today will be a slow day for MP and the current numbers are typically lower than expected. Should we see an increase over to next year?

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 12:17:24 PM

Quote from: huskypower2015 on December 25, 2015, 12:13:23 PM

Nice to see everything is up and running clean! I imagine that today will be a slow day for MP and the current numbers are typically lower than expected. Should we see an increase over to next year?

check the bank roll and you will see that it doubled today so that looks already like a good sign. no need to guess what will be next year.

Numbers have actually exceeded our expectations so far

We were expecting lower figures due to the holidays. We also had a few whales deposit funds that haven't started playing yet. Interesting times ahead!

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Quote from: huskypower2015 on December 25, 2015, 12:13:23 PM

Nice to see everything is up and running clean! I imagine that today will be a slow day for MP and the current numbers are typically lower than expected. Should we see an increase over to next year?

check the bank roll and you will see that it doubled today so that looks already like a good sign. no need to guess what will be next year.

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Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 11:47:24 AM

Total stats is just a simple number. I cannot imagine it can bring any problem for "keeping the books orderly". Just keep the old stats in mind for administrative purposes and obv summing up all bets will lack the old stats (but isn't a problem if you keep it in mind.)

The advantage of merging the old stats is that it shows the MP apps are popular already. I assume Ryan could give the total app stats since it's not privacy sensitive and it's even still on: https://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json

But up to you guys of course Tongue

agree and please understand that we worked hard and with costly promos to get some action on our poker and roulette app and were glad we reached Nico's top list. and now? we are gone Sad

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Nice to see everything is up and running clean! I imagine that today will be a slow day for MP and the current numbers are typically lower than expected. Should we see an increase over to next year?

NLNico

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Total stats is just a simple number. I cannot imagine it can bring any problem for "keeping the books orderly". Just keep the old stats in mind for administrative purposes and obv summing up all bets will lack the old stats (but isn't a problem if you keep it in mind.)

The advantage of merging the old stats is that it shows the MP apps are popular already. I assume Ryan could give the total app stats since it's not privacy sensitive and it's even still on: https://mp.bustabit.com/full-stats.json

But up to you guys of course Tongue

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If any players cant find the link for their favorite apps. I made a simple list of all apps that most probably active or has traffic before.

https://uni-games.com/mpapplist.php

-uni

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 10:11:33 AM

Quote from: NLNico on December 25, 2015, 10:04:23 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 25, 2015, 12:49:50 AM

qustion for @NLNico

it is a question and our opinion but not an attack (just for info)

I see the list starts new because Betterbets and Jackpotracer are now last in the list. in case the list starts new (IMO thats not a fair way for all apps in the list) why not leave out all old stats and start new as it develops?

thanks

My site is automated and it gets only the apps with like more than 10 btc wagered. What happened is that BB, DD and your site got this criteria with the new stats, but the other sites not so they still showed the old stats. Obviously I didn't expected the stats to be reset when I created the script. I have deactivated all stats now and only 3 sites are (automatically) activated again with the new stats: https://dicesites.com/moneypot

Overall I would actually expect that the total stats would be still there. I don't really see why the stats have been reset? It doesn't contain privacy-sensitive data and it's better for both MP and their apps. So I hope MP could still merge the old stats or something in next few days. Otherwise I will probably merge it myself (on my site) even though that will generate different stats on my site and MP site.

thank you for addressing this problem. agree that there was no reason to reset the stats to zero.

right now as you show it on your page it is at least not confusing it sure will fill up soon again and one advantage I see is that all the dead apps are gone

Happy Holidays

Ryan announced when he first listed MP for sale that no data would be included with the sale of the site, resetting stats was absolutely necessary in order for us to keep our books orderly.

On another note, in less than 24 hours we are already nearing a 100BTC Bankroll, and 150BTC wagered over 250,000 bets! Happy Holidays everyone, our team is very thankful for the support you all have shown us!

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