Greetings from the new 🌟🌟MoneyPot🌟🌟 staff - page 7.

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Quote from: shulio on December 12, 2015, 08:48:57 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on December 12, 2015, 06:46:27 PM

At the end of the day, MoneyPot is going to have the apps that they believe will generate the move additional revenue for MoneyPot featured/advertised on MoneyPot. (this is assuming they use the same model that MoneyPot currently uses).

Thats the whole point of this business I think. MP relies on sites to give them profit so while they can help some sites to generate better traffic then why spend some of their time to help some useless sites. MP may be free for all but lets be real that it is a business and needs to generate revenue as well

95% of all the sites listed on MP would not see any betting on their sites if it was not for MP and that is a fact. Who would trust them ? Where would they get a bankroll ?
MP is a really nice place for new sites and interesting ideas. People should be happy for the opportunity given.
Looking forward to where you go from here

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Quote from: Quickseller on December 12, 2015, 06:46:27 PM

At the end of the day, MoneyPot is going to have the apps that they believe will generate the move additional revenue for MoneyPot featured/advertised on MoneyPot. (this is assuming they use the same model that MoneyPot currently uses).

Thats the whole point of this business I think. MP relies on sites to give them profit so while they can help some sites to generate better traffic then why spend some of their time to help some useless sites. MP may be free for all but lets be real that it is a business and needs to generate revenue as well

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Quote from: ranlo on December 12, 2015, 06:48:34 PM

We're not using the same model. We're restructuring it in such a way that it benefits everyone. More details will come once we roll out the update to it,

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I think he's referring to apps who's business model rely on being "featured" to generate traffic.

As for MoneyPot "playing favorites", that's basically the whole point of featured apps. I've looked at apps that seemed new/interesting/cool with app owners that I think users would like to visit. It's probably quite biased, and might be better replaced (or supplemented) with "top X most active MP casinos in the last week" but the energy would be better spent marketing/improving than complaining about someone not giving you free traffic

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Kinda like:

"Here is a list of sites that use our services. Please consider supporting them for MP."

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Quote from: Quickseller on December 12, 2015, 06:46:27 PM

I would say that if your business model depends on what is essentially free advertising from others, then you should probably rethink your business plan.

At the end of the day, MoneyPot is going to have the apps that they believe will generate the move additional revenue for MoneyPot featured/advertised on MoneyPot. (this is assuming they use the same model that MoneyPot currently uses).

We're not using the same model. We're restructuring it in such a way that it benefits everyone. More details will come once we roll out the update to it,

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I would say that if your business model depends on what is essentially free advertising from others, then you should probably rethink your business plan.

At the end of the day, MoneyPot is going to have the apps that they believe will generate the move additional revenue for MoneyPot featured/advertised on MoneyPot. (this is assuming they use the same model that MoneyPot currently uses).

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 12, 2015, 05:13:34 PM

@jackpotracer I know your concerns because I had sorta the same complaint about not being on featured apps myself. I can also say that you just need to message the owners of MP and they will be glad to try to answer your questions. I personally have had a few conversations on Skype with matt and he has done his best to handle my questions professionally.

I dont think they're playing favorites with anyone nor are they trying to ignore anyone. They're taking over a business and I'm sure it takes up alot of their time learning what they need to learn. So the best thing for you would be to pm your concerns and accept their answers

Yeah, most of our discussions internally have been about future direction and plans so far. There's quite a bit to cover because it's better for us to plot out everything now than to try and work it out later. And as a somewhat large team (relatively speaking, compared to MP before), we do a LOT of brainstorming,

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 12, 2015, 05:13:34 PM

@jackpotracer I know your concerns because I had sorta the same complaint about not being on featured apps myself. I can also say that you just need to message the owners of MP and they will be glad to try to answer your questions. I personally have had a few conversations on Skype with matt and he has done his best to handle my questions professionally.

I dont think they're playing favorites with anyone nor are they trying to ignore anyone. They're taking over a business and I'm sure it takes up alot of their time learning what they need to learn. So the best thing for you would be to pm your concerns and accept their answers

@yahoo

very much appreciated that at least one app owner jumping in and confirming the problem not to be on the featured list.

I don't want to Pm with Matt or the team because we think that for example the featured section should be handled open and fair and should be openly discussed or at least we should see explicit rules to be featured. it does not make sense that 100+ app owners will discuss with Matt by PM any option to get featured. but as you or ranlo already said lets wait till the team takes over. I don't blame the new team for the preferred treatment that happened before they took over. I just would be glad if it will be handled in a fair way for all app owners.

it could well be that the thread is not the right place for those discussions but as long there is no other place we need to discuss it here. Slack was a nice place where app owners would get in by invitation and could discuss all kind of problems.

thanks and good luck with bubblesbit

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@jackpotracer I know your concerns because I had sorta the same complaint about not being on featured apps myself. I can also say that you just need to message the owners of MP and they will be glad to try to answer your questions. I personally have had a few conversations on Skype with matt and he has done his best to handle my questions professionally.

I dont think they're playing favorites with anyone nor are they trying to ignore anyone. They're taking over a business and I'm sure it takes up alot of their time learning what they need to learn. So the best thing for you would be to pm your concerns and accept their answers

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Quote from: ranlo on December 12, 2015, 02:14:27 PM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 01:28:01 PM

Quote from: erwin45hacked on December 12, 2015, 05:37:24 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:44:24 AM

until now moneypot was treating some apps and owners in a preferred way and for us it looks like as it goes on and we just asking for an equal treatment. what is wrong with this?

Your accusation will lead you to nothing. The new team hasnt start working yet and accusation has started that they are playing in favoritsm. You do realize that you need MP for your site, so it is much better for you to stop breaking the house down and better to solve this misunderstanding via something else with the owners

very sorry but I can't agree with you. first of all I did not accuse the new team of anything bad I was asking the new team not to give anyone a preferred treatment like it was handled before.

we know how it was handled before and also other app owners are aware of it. but they have no reason to jump in to help us in our discussions here because they got this preferred treatment.
for us it is history and we are very eager to see how the new team will work. we were just pointing out some points what they could make better. lets wait and see.

you have no app as far as I know and this means that you can't know how it was and what I am talking about. only an app owner who was long enough in this machinery could have an opinion and discuss those points I am talking about.

a good example is if you imagine that you are on a flight to Las Vegas and the air plane was facing very bad weather and big flight turbulences and you and all on board were afraid to death. the moment you reach Las Vegas you will call friends and tell them about the terrible flight. no one can discuss this flight with you beside all people who were with you on board. yes they can ask what happened but thats all. I hope you understand my point

The reason why they aren't posting here to join the conversation is because we've already addressed your concern multiple times so there's not really anything to discuss on that front until we have control over the site and announce the changes.

same I said to erwin applies to you. you had no app so I can't and will not blame you for not knowing how it was handled. so lets wait and see

I will repeat that I know @ranlo and dogedigital and not the rest of the team. I trust you and dogedigital that you will try to get the MP business idea on the right track and it does not matter if we will be on this train or not.

and yes we are very sorry that Dean left the train

good luck

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 01:28:01 PM

Quote from: erwin45hacked on December 12, 2015, 05:37:24 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:44:24 AM

until now moneypot was treating some apps and owners in a preferred way and for us it looks like as it goes on and we just asking for an equal treatment. what is wrong with this?

Your accusation will lead you to nothing. The new team hasnt start working yet and accusation has started that they are playing in favoritsm. You do realize that you need MP for your site, so it is much better for you to stop breaking the house down and better to solve this misunderstanding via something else with the owners

very sorry but I can't agree with you. first of all I did not accuse the new team of anything bad I was asking the new team not to give anyone a preferred treatment like it was handled before.

we know how it was handled before and also other app owners are aware of it. but they have no reason to jump in to help us in our discussions here because they got this preferred treatment.
for us it is history and we are very eager to see how the new team will work. we were just pointing out some points what they could make better. lets wait and see.

you have no app as far as I know and this means that you can't know how it was and what I am talking about. only an app owner who was long enough in this machinery could have an opinion and discuss those points I am talking about.

a good example is if you imagine that you are on a flight to Las Vegas and the air plane was facing very bad weather and big flight turbulences and you and all on board were afraid to death. the moment you reach Las Vegas you will call friends and tell them about the terrible flight. no one can discuss this flight with you beside all people who were with you on board. yes they can ask what happened but thats all. I hope you understand my point

The reason why they aren't posting here to join the conversation is because we've already addressed your concern multiple times so there's not really anything to discuss on that front until we have control over the site and announce the changes.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on December 12, 2015, 05:37:24 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:44:24 AM

until now moneypot was treating some apps and owners in a preferred way and for us it looks like as it goes on and we just asking for an equal treatment. what is wrong with this?

Your accusation will lead you to nothing. The new team hasnt start working yet and accusation has started that they are playing in favoritsm. You do realize that you need MP for your site, so it is much better for you to stop breaking the house down and better to solve this misunderstanding via something else with the owners

very sorry but I can't agree with you. first of all I did not accuse the new team of anything bad I was asking the new team not to give anyone a preferred treatment like it was handled before.

we know how it was handled before and also other app owners are aware of it. but they have no reason to jump in to help us in our discussions here because they got this preferred treatment.
for us it is history and we are very eager to see how the new team will work. we were just pointing out some points what they could make better. lets wait and see.

you have no app as far as I know and this means that you can't know how it was and what I am talking about. only an app owner who was long enough in this machinery could have an opinion and discuss those points I am talking about.

a good example is if you imagine that you are on a flight to Las Vegas and the air plane was facing very bad weather and big flight turbulences and you and all on board were afraid to death. the moment you reach Las Vegas you will call friends and tell them about the terrible flight. no one can discuss this flight with you beside all people who were with you on board. yes they can ask what happened but thats all. I hope you understand my point

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:44:24 AM

until now moneypot was treating some apps and owners in a preferred way and for us it looks like as it goes on and we just asking for an equal treatment. what is wrong with this?

Your accusation will lead you to nothing. The new team hasnt start working yet and accusation has started that they are playing in favoritsm. You do realize that you need MP for your site, so it is much better for you to stop breaking the house down and better to solve this misunderstanding via something else with the owners

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Be interesting to see how this new team ends up running moneypot and if they end up pulling a runner or not.

The original moneypot was an awesome site and the owner was actually a really decent individual to do business with.
Hopefully these new owners run the site just as well as he did, although the bar has been set pretty damn high in my opinion.
Best of luck to you guys and congrats on getting moneypot.com - The site is awesome, please don't bugger it up or use the established name to scam.

Going to be alot of eyes on you in the upcoming months. Make sure your Dev team is trustworthy.

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It seems like a pretty trustworthy team. Better than I expected.

I hope that you guys can keep up the positive, good work that Ryan has been doing to this project. I also hope that you guys can provide good support just like Ryan did.

Good luck on managing this excellent project that I've been using for a while now.

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:44:24 AM

Quote from: ranlo on December 12, 2015, 02:06:02 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:02:09 AM

I thought I will paste this conversation between betterbets and ranlo on the betterbets auction thread here because also we = other app owners should get some more information
ranlo in blue text and betterbets in maroon

Quote from: ranlo on December 11, 2015, 05:15:26 AM
Since I couldn't edit the last post, I wanted to let everyone know that MP will be working directly with app developers to help create a mutually beneficial relationship, and ensuring we help make the platform -- as a whole -- successful. There are a lot of exciting things in store for MP over the coming weeks, months, and years ahead, and if you have any questions, feel free to reach out! If you make a bid on BB, understand that you're in great hands, with the full support of the MP team behind you all the way.

We know the new team of owners of Moneypot and have had several conversations with them; we're confident BetterBets.io will be in good hands with them. They understand that in order to their brand to succeed and thrive, the relationship between them and the individual gambling sites has to be mutually beneficial. So while I can't speak for them, I think you'll see positive changes under the new ownership and I'm quite certain that they will not be an impediment to the site's future success.

here we have exactly a very nice example about the preferred treatment of some children of the moneypot family

betterbets knows the new owner.................we don't and after the question to be so nice to introduce themselves we get strange answers. @ranlo and Doge Digital = Keeth are well known in BCT community but not the other partners beside Dean who is out now

betterbets had several conversations with the new team/owners..............hmmm why betterbets and not with us other owners?

Uh, our conversations with BB were unrelated to MP. Also, they only spoke with myself and ACoin LLC. So this is entirely unrelated. They trust, however, that I wouldn't be associated with a bad group, therefore, by nature of me being part of it, they have confidence. And while I would normally say it's not anyone's business what our discussions were related to, I'll be transparent: it was in regards to the auction of BB.

First post of the thread is the introduction of everyone and who we are.

We've been nothing but open to everyone. If you have a question, simply ask it. Quit posting negative things (and especially drop this "favoritism" accusation). We've answered anything you've asked, aside from when you constantly throw out favoritism even after having been answered multiple times. And that's simply because there's only so many times we can answer the same question...

how would you understand this sentence
We know the new team of owners of Moneypot and have had several conversations with them

they could write we had a conversation with ranlo

the first post does introduce some anonymous people in a very anonymous way. or we missed another more detailed introduction

we are asking all our questions here but are not getting any answers

Quit posting negative things (and especially drop this "favoritism" accusation).

it looks that you lost a bit of your temper and we will promise you that we will not quit posting our thoughts and if you don't like our thoughts that would be very understandable because the truth hurts. or do you want us to shut up as it is a usual behavior in a dictatorship?

until now moneypot was treating some apps and owners in a preferred way and for us it looks like as it goes on and we just asking for an equal treatment. what is wrong with this?

You don't have to "shut up." We, as MP, are here to work with all app owners. We don't play favoritism. Those that have concerns are more than free to voice them. I still don't understand where you're getting this flawed perception of playing favorites from. You know as much as any other app owner does. Your complaints (such as having dead sites on the "promoted" list) have been noted, as stated many times in the past, and will be fixed when we have control and can actually do something about it.

You've yet to raise a concern that we can answer to. And it's impossible to give an answer if you're not giving a question that has an answer.

A "more detailed" introduction of members is up to each of them to decide on. That said, you know of myself, Doge, ACoin LLC. Cyclops, Rio and Alex are other members, and if they come out and speak, that's on them. As it is, it's just been us other three that I'm aware of.

Feel free to post your opinions, but make them constructive. We can't help if you're giving nothing to help with. I've been nothing but forthcoming.

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Quote from: ranlo on December 12, 2015, 02:06:02 AM

Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:02:09 AM

I thought I will paste this conversation between betterbets and ranlo on the betterbets auction thread here because also we = other app owners should get some more information
ranlo in blue text and betterbets in maroon

Quote from: ranlo on December 11, 2015, 05:15:26 AM
Since I couldn't edit the last post, I wanted to let everyone know that MP will be working directly with app developers to help create a mutually beneficial relationship, and ensuring we help make the platform -- as a whole -- successful. There are a lot of exciting things in store for MP over the coming weeks, months, and years ahead, and if you have any questions, feel free to reach out! If you make a bid on BB, understand that you're in great hands, with the full support of the MP team behind you all the way.

We know the new team of owners of Moneypot and have had several conversations with them; we're confident BetterBets.io will be in good hands with them. They understand that in order to their brand to succeed and thrive, the relationship between them and the individual gambling sites has to be mutually beneficial. So while I can't speak for them, I think you'll see positive changes under the new ownership and I'm quite certain that they will not be an impediment to the site's future success.

here we have exactly a very nice example about the preferred treatment of some children of the moneypot family

betterbets knows the new owner.................we don't and after the question to be so nice to introduce themselves we get strange answers. @ranlo and Doge Digital = Keeth are well known in BCT community but not the other partners beside Dean who is out now

betterbets had several conversations with the new team/owners..............hmmm why betterbets and not with us other owners?

Uh, our conversations with BB were unrelated to MP. Also, they only spoke with myself and ACoin LLC. So this is entirely unrelated. They trust, however, that I wouldn't be associated with a bad group, therefore, by nature of me being part of it, they have confidence. And while I would normally say it's not anyone's business what our discussions were related to, I'll be transparent: it was in regards to the auction of BB.

First post of the thread is the introduction of everyone and who we are.

We've been nothing but open to everyone. If you have a question, simply ask it. Quit posting negative things (and especially drop this "favoritism" accusation). We've answered anything you've asked, aside from when you constantly throw out favoritism even after having been answered multiple times. And that's simply because there's only so many times we can answer the same question...

how would you understand this sentence
We know the new team of owners of Moneypot and have had several conversations with them

they could write we had a conversation with ranlo

the first post does introduce some anonymous people in a very anonymous way. or we missed another more detailed introduction

we are asking all our questions here but are not getting any answers

Quit posting negative things (and especially drop this "favoritism" accusation).

it looks that you lost a bit of your temper and we will promise you that we will not quit posting our thoughts and if you don't like our thoughts that would be very understandable because the truth hurts. or do you want us to shut up as it is a usual behavior in a dictatorship?

until now moneypot was treating some apps and owners in a preferred way and for us it looks like as it goes on and we just asking for an equal treatment. what is wrong with this?

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on December 12, 2015, 02:02:09 AM

I thought I will paste this conversation between betterbets and ranlo on the betterbets auction thread here because also we = other app owners should get some more information
ranlo in blue text and betterbets in maroon

Quote from: ranlo on December 11, 2015, 05:15:26 AM
Since I couldn't edit the last post, I wanted to let everyone know that MP will be working directly with app developers to help create a mutually beneficial relationship, and ensuring we help make the platform -- as a whole -- successful. There are a lot of exciting things in store for MP over the coming weeks, months, and years ahead, and if you have any questions, feel free to reach out! If you make a bid on BB, understand that you're in great hands, with the full support of the MP team behind you all the way.

We know the new team of owners of Moneypot and have had several conversations with them; we're confident BetterBets.io will be in good hands with them. They understand that in order to their brand to succeed and thrive, the relationship between them and the individual gambling sites has to be mutually beneficial. So while I can't speak for them, I think you'll see positive changes under the new ownership and I'm quite certain that they will not be an impediment to the site's future success.

here we have exactly a very nice example about the preferred treatment of some children of the moneypot family

betterbets knows the new owner.................we don't and after the question to be so nice to introduce themselves we get strange answers. @ranlo and Doge Digital = Keeth are well known in BCT community but not the other partners beside Dean who is out now

betterbets had several conversations with the new team/owners..............hmmm why betterbets and not with us other owners?

Uh, our conversations with BB were unrelated to MP. Also, they only spoke with myself and ACoin LLC. So this is entirely unrelated. They trust, however, that I wouldn't be associated with a bad group, therefore, by nature of me being part of it, they have confidence. And while I would normally say it's not anyone's business what our discussions were related to, I'll be transparent: it was in regards to the auction of BB.

First post of the thread is the introduction of everyone and who we are.

We've been nothing but open to everyone. If you have a question, simply ask it. Quit posting negative things (and especially drop this "favoritism" accusation). We've answered anything you've asked, aside from when you constantly throw out favoritism even after having been answered multiple times. And that's simply because there's only so many times we can answer the same question...

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I thought I will paste this conversation between betterbets and ranlo on the betterbets auction thread here because also we = other app owners should get some more information
ranlo in blue text and betterbets in maroon

Quote from: ranlo on December 11, 2015, 05:15:26 AM
Since I couldn't edit the last post, I wanted to let everyone know that MP will be working directly with app developers to help create a mutually beneficial relationship, and ensuring we help make the platform -- as a whole -- successful. There are a lot of exciting things in store for MP over the coming weeks, months, and years ahead, and if you have any questions, feel free to reach out! If you make a bid on BB, understand that you're in great hands, with the full support of the MP team behind you all the way.

We know the new team of owners of Moneypot and have had several conversations with them; we're confident BetterBets.io will be in good hands with them. They understand that in order to their brand to succeed and thrive, the relationship between them and the individual gambling sites has to be mutually beneficial. So while I can't speak for them, I think you'll see positive changes under the new ownership and I'm quite certain that they will not be an impediment to the site's future success.

here we have exactly a very nice example about the preferred treatment of some children of the moneypot family

betterbets knows the new owner.................we don't and after the question to be so nice to introduce themselves we get strange answers. @ranlo and Doge Digital = Keeth are well known in BCT community but not the other partners beside Dean who is out now

betterbets had several conversations with the new team/owners..............hmmm why betterbets and not with us other owners?

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Quote from: huskypower2015 on December 11, 2015, 12:48:41 AM

Quote from: ranlo on December 11, 2015, 12:42:49 AM

Quote from: Monnt on December 11, 2015, 12:24:10 AM

Great team. I think it's one that we can trust...

Good luck with your work, and hopefully we can see a better and improved version of MoneyPot in the near future.

Thanks for your support. Even on our end, the team has been beyond amazing in both ideas for moving forward and bringing about the best MP we possibly can. I think you all are going to be fairly surprised once we really hit the ground running,

. We're very anxious for the takeover!

Sweet!

How has the transition been thus far? Are you close to a grand opening yet or so far yet?

Curious, will the old API still be in use of will you guys develop your own API?

We won't have control for ~1.5 weeks.

And the old API will be in use but we've noted things for expansion as well (based on requests app devs. have made). That said, our original focus is getting things up to where they were. Then we focus on additions.

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