what is the (max. achievable) total amount of Gridcoins since we have CPU+GPU mining?
what I understood is we have 168 million from GPU mining (based on the avg. 100 GRC per blocks).
and for CPU mining we have the similar amount, right? Which means we are expected to produce 2x168 Million coins in total. Am I correct?
Topic: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread - page 194. (Read 597564 times)
February 11, 2014, 04:42:28 AM
February 11, 2014, 04:29:25 AM
I don't have mining working yet (and I've just finished a complete fresh reinstall of my system) but here's a collection of links for someone else looking to get started in Linux:
Installing Ubuntu and getting the AMD video drivers installed:
http://highoncoins.com/litecoin-rig/how-to-install-ubuntu-and-optimize-cgminer-for-litecoin-mining-rig/
I preferred to get my own cgminer executable as I wasn't sure of the source of the one presented, so the following pages should help with that.
Download AMD SDKs:
http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/heterogeneous-computing/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/
http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/display-library-adl-sdk/
Download cgminer source code:
http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/3.7/
Configuring Linux to build cgminer:
https://coinaxis.com/index.php/entry/how-to-configure-linux-and-build-cgminer-for-bitcoin-and-litecoin
Installing BOINC on Ubuntu:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Ubuntu
How to disable IPv6 on Ubuntu (gridcoin may default to IPv6 and I couldn't connect to its port):
http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
Installing Ubuntu and getting the AMD video drivers installed:
http://highoncoins.com/litecoin-rig/how-to-install-ubuntu-and-optimize-cgminer-for-litecoin-mining-rig/
I preferred to get my own cgminer executable as I wasn't sure of the source of the one presented, so the following pages should help with that.
Download AMD SDKs:
http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/heterogeneous-computing/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/
http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/display-library-adl-sdk/
Download cgminer source code:
http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/3.7/
Configuring Linux to build cgminer:
https://coinaxis.com/index.php/entry/how-to-configure-linux-and-build-cgminer-for-bitcoin-and-litecoin
Installing BOINC on Ubuntu:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Ubuntu
How to disable IPv6 on Ubuntu (gridcoin may default to IPv6 and I couldn't connect to its port):
http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
February 10, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
New Version Available
8.3/77/1.1.6.3:
- More concise listcpuminers report.
- Overpayment (for cpuminers) problem fixed.
- Sleep/Work status written to file %appdata%status.txt for s4mmy.
8.3/77/1.1.6.3:
- More concise listcpuminers report.
- Overpayment (for cpuminers) problem fixed.
- Sleep/Work status written to file %appdata%status.txt for s4mmy.
February 10, 2014, 07:50:55 PM
Well said Sir, well said!!! +1
I cannot sit idly back any longer without comment:
Rob.....you sir deserve some sort of award for all of your efforts on Gridcoin. I follow the tech speak as much as I can, but I am constantly floored at the rapid progress you make with these difficult issues and the level of communication you maintain with the community. This is not only an incredibly unique and revolutionary coin, but you stand out among all the developers I've followed/come into contact with thus far. That combination makes the success of this coin, and the benefits it will bring to the world, inevitable. I predict that some day soon you'll be receiving lots of attention and praise for what you're doing here. Be prepared.
I follow the developments daily and I'm looking into ways of my own to contribute to the community. Thanks for all of your hard work. It has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated.
Seriously, just WOW. And I do not say that lightly.
Rob.....you sir deserve some sort of award for all of your efforts on Gridcoin. I follow the tech speak as much as I can, but I am constantly floored at the rapid progress you make with these difficult issues and the level of communication you maintain with the community. This is not only an incredibly unique and revolutionary coin, but you stand out among all the developers I've followed/come into contact with thus far. That combination makes the success of this coin, and the benefits it will bring to the world, inevitable. I predict that some day soon you'll be receiving lots of attention and praise for what you're doing here. Be prepared.
I follow the developments daily and I'm looking into ways of my own to contribute to the community. Thanks for all of your hard work. It has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated.
Seriously, just WOW. And I do not say that lightly.
Well said indeed! Couldn't agree more.
Thanks for the kind words!
Rob H.
February 10, 2014, 05:25:09 PM
You can now vote for GridCoin on OpenEx:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
voted
let our voice be heard! February 10, 2014, 05:11:11 PM
kinda wow.
February 10, 2014, 05:10:20 PM
You can now vote for GridCoin on OpenEx:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
Voted
February 10, 2014, 05:05:01 PM
You can now vote for GridCoin on OpenEx:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
Voted. Thanks for the link!
February 10, 2014, 05:01:05 PM
You can now vote for GridCoin on OpenEx:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/openex-new-additions-round-2-open-449473
February 10, 2014, 02:57:27 PM
Well said Sir, well said!!! +1
I cannot sit idly back any longer without comment:
Rob.....you sir deserve some sort of award for all of your efforts on Gridcoin. I follow the tech speak as much as I can, but I am constantly floored at the rapid progress you make with these difficult issues and the level of communication you maintain with the community. This is not only an incredibly unique and revolutionary coin, but you stand out among all the developers I've followed/come into contact with thus far. That combination makes the success of this coin, and the benefits it will bring to the world, inevitable. I predict that some day soon you'll be receiving lots of attention and praise for what you're doing here. Be prepared.
I follow the developments daily and I'm looking into ways of my own to contribute to the community. Thanks for all of your hard work. It has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated.
Seriously, just WOW. And I do not say that lightly.
Rob.....you sir deserve some sort of award for all of your efforts on Gridcoin. I follow the tech speak as much as I can, but I am constantly floored at the rapid progress you make with these difficult issues and the level of communication you maintain with the community. This is not only an incredibly unique and revolutionary coin, but you stand out among all the developers I've followed/come into contact with thus far. That combination makes the success of this coin, and the benefits it will bring to the world, inevitable. I predict that some day soon you'll be receiving lots of attention and praise for what you're doing here. Be prepared.
I follow the developments daily and I'm looking into ways of my own to contribute to the community. Thanks for all of your hard work. It has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated.
Seriously, just WOW. And I do not say that lightly.
Well said indeed! Couldn't agree more.
February 10, 2014, 10:53:50 AM
For pool mining you need to find a block first, and you will receive payment for some days after. But then, you need to find another block to continue receiving payment, etc...
For now Gridcoin have a low network hashrate. And I think this type of pool prevent Gridcoin to go bigger, as when the difficulty raise, solo mining is not good, and pool mining as it is now, is not good also. Imagine you want to mine Dogecoin or Litecoin and need to find a block first. People will switch coin.
Maybe this is already happening, all the people that left the pool mining in the last couple of weeks, they may have gone to other coins. People with not so good GPU to solo, but could add a bit to Boinc with their CPU.
I think the solution need to be think now, not when there is 100 pool miners, as people will leave the pool and it may never reach 100 with the current pool system.
I wrote about same things about 2-3 weeks ago(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4610130). I switched to pool mining yesterday and i see same - no payouts from pool, but i got 1 150 GRC payment, as if i solo mining. Previously i mined in pool for 3-4 days and was gettin payouts at 30-70 GRC after week (!) from when i started to mine in pool. I didn't calculadet profits, but seems pool mining working correctly, but with great latency because of Wallet Hour.
Thanks, zulzedd. I had forgotten about your earlier post - back then I had not yet tried pool mining so it went right over my head at the time.
Sounds like we have similar effects when pool mining. Did you notice whether the address your pool mining payouts went to was normal (presumably your default/leaderboard address)? Mine - only the one so far - showed as being sent to a receiving address I use for a different purpose, one that the mining pool presumably should not have been aware of. I'm now guessing it's a glitch in the wallet display - perhaps it shows "last referenced address" or some such thing.
I'll keep this machine in pool mode a while longer and see what develops.
Regarding PoolMining:
I want to reiterate this: Its a huge risk for us to open Gridcoin to a standard pool: Its hard to enforce a network packet containing Boinc authenticity information and "believe" the pool operator is going to be trusted with that information; it opens us up to fraud. If that were NOT the case, I would add that to our spec and work with a pool mining operator. No one likes a central authority, so we built integrated pool mining inside the client.
In light of that, everyone liked the old integrated pool with the small payments - the only thing they hated was finding the first block. I viewed that as a miniscule problem; a training issue.
When we went to "Wallet Hour" payments to cut down on bloated wallets; everyone jumped ship and now we only have 23 pool miners.
The root of the problem is the current pool only pays you in your wallet hour when another pool miner finds a block. Its easy for a few of the pool miners to lose faith in it when a couple of days go by with no payments.
What I propose as a bridge between now and when we have 100+ pool miners is modifying the client to pay in 4 hour blocks; 2 hours before and 2 hours after the wallet hour. I think this will satisfy our pool miners for the time being.
What I also want to say about our integrity: I do not believe anyone has been ripped off- remember, any "advantage" or "disadvantage" is shared among the whole network; so no one is getting something in the pool and ripping other users. But I will do what I can to satisfy everyone.
So, as a stopgap I will modify the client to do the 4 hour window for now.
Grid
February 10, 2014, 09:20:58 AM
Is there some way to get an idea of how many GRC we would earn per day pool mining based on our hashrate...?
I'm hashing at about 400 KH/s
Hi Bob,I'm hashing at about 400 KH/s
It should be the same as solo mining after you find a few blocks. The main difference is you are paid for the blocks over a longer period so it takes a while to build up to the same average but you are also paid for a few days after you quit (it's like A/R in a business).
BTW, can you please send me the link to your new user startup guide?
Thanks!
Rob H.
LOL, I posted it the last time you asked me, but here it is again: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-install-setup-and-mine-gridcoins-in-tandem-with-boinc-windows-403734
Also, thank you for all your efforts and keep up the great work!
Now I need to figure out why no matter how many credits I make I just can't seem to climb the leaderboard. Yesterday I had 1,300+ credits and was at position 161, today I have 5,773 avg credits and I'm down to 166th position.
February 10, 2014, 08:46:07 AM
I wrote about same things about 2-3 weeks ago(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4610130). I switched to pool mining yesterday and i see same - no payouts from pool, but i got 1 150 GRC payment, as if i solo mining. Previously i mined in pool for 3-4 days and was gettin payouts at 30-70 GRC after week (!) from when i started to mine in pool. I didn't calculadet profits, but seems pool mining working correctly, but with great latency because of Wallet Hour.
Thanks, zulzedd. I had forgotten about your earlier post - back then I had not yet tried pool mining so it went right over my head at the time.
Sounds like we have similar effects when pool mining. Did you notice whether the address your pool mining payouts went to was normal (presumably your default/leaderboard address)? Mine - only the one so far - showed as being sent to a receiving address I use for a different purpose, one that the mining pool presumably should not have been aware of. I'm now guessing it's a glitch in the wallet display - perhaps it shows "last referenced address" or some such thing.
I'll keep this machine in pool mode a while longer and see what develops.
Regarding PoolMining:
I want to reiterate this: Its a huge risk for us to open Gridcoin to a standard pool: Its hard to enforce a network packet containing Boinc authenticity information and "believe" the pool operator is going to be trusted with that information; it opens us up to fraud. If that were NOT the case, I would add that to our spec and work with a pool mining operator. No one likes a central authority, so we built integrated pool mining inside the client.
In light of that, everyone liked the old integrated pool with the small payments - the only thing they hated was finding the first block. I viewed that as a miniscule problem; a training issue.
When we went to "Wallet Hour" payments to cut down on bloated wallets; everyone jumped ship and now we only have 23 pool miners.
The root of the problem is the current pool only pays you in your wallet hour when another pool miner finds a block. Its easy for a few of the pool miners to lose faith in it when a couple of days go by with no payments.
What I propose as a bridge between now and when we have 100+ pool miners is modifying the client to pay in 4 hour blocks; 2 hours before and 2 hours after the wallet hour. I think this will satisfy our pool miners for the time being.
What I also want to say about our integrity: I do not believe anyone has been ripped off- remember, any "advantage" or "disadvantage" is shared among the whole network; so no one is getting something in the pool and ripping other users. But I will do what I can to satisfy everyone.
So, as a stopgap I will modify the client to do the 4 hour window for now.
Grid
Thanks for the update. That's very useful to know. I was thinking the pool mining was buggy until I read your post because, after several days running nonstop, my mining module displays seven blocks accepted, no stales or invalid - but there were no payouts at all. I'll switch to the new version now and leave pool mining on a while longer.
February 10, 2014, 08:22:11 AM
Hi Andrew,
Great ! Nice job at adding the points I missed.
Hi Traderman,
Awesome to have added the points table
Hi zulzedd,
That graph is looking sexier every passing day !! Amazing.
Hi Rob,
Maybe you could just add a post there saying your the lead dev and the OP could contact you for any further questions if he has regarding the coin. That would make him feel even more confident about adding the coin. Just a suggestion
PS : I think the only hurdle for now is that the guys site requires volume data when fetching prices from c-cex.com and I doubt whether c-cex provides. I am not sure about it. Lets hope it doesn't cause a problem. Lets see I am speaking to the c-cex dev about adding volume if he can. Fingers crossed. Also coincapmarket is going to have a second page after 100 coins, I hope we make it as the 100th coin itself cause right now our market cap and trade volumes are low compared to other coins.
@all who have not left a comment there, go ahead an leave it. Lets let the world know we are proud gridcoiners !!
Great ! Nice job at adding the points I missed.
Hi Traderman,
Awesome to have added the points table
Hi zulzedd,
That graph is looking sexier every passing day !! Amazing.
Hi Rob,
Maybe you could just add a post there saying your the lead dev and the OP could contact you for any further questions if he has regarding the coin. That would make him feel even more confident about adding the coin. Just a suggestion
PS : I think the only hurdle for now is that the guys site requires volume data when fetching prices from c-cex.com and I doubt whether c-cex provides. I am not sure about it. Lets hope it doesn't cause a problem. Lets see I am speaking to the c-cex dev about adding volume if he can. Fingers crossed. Also coincapmarket is going to have a second page after 100 coins, I hope we make it as the 100th coin itself cause right now our market cap and trade volumes are low compared to other coins.
@all who have not left a comment there, go ahead an leave it. Lets let the world know we are proud gridcoiners !!
February 10, 2014, 08:19:08 AM
I vote there every time someone reminds me (thanks!) but I haven't yet found an easy way to use their "bribe" function. It should be easy to send them a few BTC crumbs for extra votes but the addresses they print are not copyable into a clipboard and I'm reluctant to copy manually because of the risk of error. Anyone know an easy way to grab their BTC address for GRC votes?
Edit: Suddenly it started working for me. Do your own due diligence, but this is what I got: 16JfRDjQndMnohi1d6HX4HXSDv4SdHB6er
Edit: Just sent 0.01 BTC there as a test. No effect yet - I guess they wait for confirmations. It was at 754 when I sent.
Edit: 12 confirmations and we are at 854 now, so it seems to work.
February 10, 2014, 08:09:52 AM
I have to be reminded daily about that one, I keep forgetting it.
I put up the team Gridcoin boinc points sheet.
Posted Gridcoin team Graph and voted here http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php again.So I am not mining right now (because of PSU being burnt 
) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.
So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy
.
PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy
.PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
February 10, 2014, 07:54:46 AM
I put up the team Gridcoin boinc points sheet.
Posted Gridcoin team Graph and voted here http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php again. So I am not mining right now (because of PSU being burnt ) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.
So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy.
PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy
.PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
February 10, 2014, 07:19:55 AM
I put up the team Gridcoin boinc points sheet.
So I am not mining right now (because of PSU being burnt ) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.
So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy.
PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy
.PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
February 10, 2014, 06:34:44 AM
So I am not mining right now (because of PSU being burnt ) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.
So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy.
PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy
.PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
Hi!
Good job! I added my post!
Guys, check this out! We are really close to breaking our own daily record in credits!
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/detail/118094994/overview
Andrew.
February 10, 2014, 04:15:38 AM
So I am not mining right now (because of PSU being burnt ) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.
So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy.
PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
) . But if most of you can confirm that the momentary sync problem was over then we can all start clamouring for Gridcoin to be included on coincapmarket. I have already done that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5051070.So I would ask all members of the community to go there and post similar messages or just quote the above message and "+1" it if your lazy
.PS : Expect a (big) hike in networkrate and prices soon
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