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Topic: Group Buy - Innosillicon A5 Dashminer - page 8. (Read 8279 times)

sr. member
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July 19, 2017, 04:07:24 PM
#28
Just a heads up about something that was brought to my attention. There is an investment group of individuals here on the forum that have in the past raised the funds to buy the minimum quantity required by the miner manufacturers. They then mark the miners up substantially and market here on the forum as group buys. Search for past sales of ibelink here on the forum.

They have become resellers and not really a "group buy" in a traditional sense. This would be no different than going to a reseller like Eastshore or buying one on Aliexpress. You are going to pay to get it.

So with that knowledge that this investment group is about to secure the A5's from Inno I don't know if we should press for a direct group buy.  I don't charge you guys anything to organize these things so everything is passed straight onto you.  Other than shipping, escrow fees, and customs/duties/taxes of the place you live the price offered by Inno is what is passed along to you.

If Inno will let us do a smaller volume than the 100 MOQ that I hear they are asking for then we could probably still push forward with a group buy effort. If they require a 100 unit order then we may not be able to make it happen. Then your option is to buy from resellers or Wait unit Inno starts selling direct. In the past that was not long after they shipped their first batches to the preorders.  So there was not a huge advantage to be in that preorder group. It bought us maybe 30 to 45 days.

So keep the feedback coming. I will press for any details I can get from Inno and let you guys decide what you would like to do. Just wanted to make you aware that some Inno A5 threads will be popping up  from this reseller group offering to sell miners from the first batch they can secure. If you guys want to go that route speak up in this thread. This is our community so make your voice heard. Our challenge may be the MOQ from Inno.


Atleast as a group buy we can for sure reach 100 MOQ. we already have good numbers. I am in for 10 but if the group buy will be short 10-15. I will step up for 10 more and i am pretty sure that some of us will also step up.
member
Activity: 117
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July 19, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
#27
I would be interested in one.

I am in the US.

Keep me updated and thank you!!
sr. member
Activity: 1036
Merit: 311
July 19, 2017, 03:56:39 PM
#26
Depending on price and realized hash I'd be in for 2.
sr. member
Activity: 326
Merit: 250
July 19, 2017, 03:43:46 PM
#25
aprox. 20 units, of course depends on price.
And shipping directly from China to EU (not through the USA)
But I contacted Innosilicon too...
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 517
July 19, 2017, 03:42:57 PM
#24
Just a heads up about something that was brought to my attention. There is an investment group of individuals here on the forum that have in the past raised the funds to buy the minimum quantity required by the miner manufacturers. They then mark the miners up substantially and market here on the forum as group buys. Search for past sales of ibelink here on the forum.

They have become resellers and not really a "group buy" in a traditional sense. This would be no different than going to a reseller like Eastshore or buying one on Aliexpress. You are going to pay to get it.

So with that knowledge that this investment group is about to secure the A5's from Inno I don't know if we should press for a direct group buy.  I don't charge you guys anything to organize these things so everything is passed straight onto you.  Other than shipping, escrow fees, and customs/duties/taxes of the place you live the price offered by Inno is what is passed along to you.

If Inno will let us do a smaller volume than the 100 MOQ that I hear they are asking for then we could probably still push forward with a group buy effort. If they require a 100 unit order then we may not be able to make it happen. Then your option is to buy from resellers or Wait unit Inno starts selling direct. In the past that was not long after they shipped their first batches to the preorders.  So there was not a huge advantage to be in that preorder group. It bought us maybe 30 to 45 days.

So keep the feedback coming. I will press for any details I can get from Inno and let you guys decide what you would like to do. Just wanted to make you aware that some Inno A5 threads will be popping up  from this reseller group offering to sell miners from the first batch they can secure. If you guys want to go that route speak up in this thread. This is our community so make your voice heard. Our challenge may be the MOQ from Inno.

hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 508
July 19, 2017, 03:16:33 PM
#23
Interested in 1
Shipment in Italy
If 30.2 Gh/s 750 W confirmed.
Reasonable waiting times ( approx end 2017......)
Reasonable price.
CE-Marking present.


http://www.innosilicon.com.cn/html/news/21.html

Google Translation:

Quote
30.2Ghs 750W, Innosilicon today announced the launch of the next generation of X11 full custom-made chip and mine A5 DashMaster. The product is the company in the Wright A4 mine after another masterpiece, carefully optimized by the multinational team development, the performance of the world ahead, has completed the chip-level verification, the miners in early September bulk shipments, Provide free warranty for half a year.

Innosilicon A5 DashMaster Master of the world's leading, one-step, to several times the competitive power of the largest computing power, the best energy efficiency than the boutique, to ensure that miners do not regret buying, mining, but the next two years The land of defeat.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
July 19, 2017, 03:06:40 PM
#22
Interested, please keep me posted. Thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 258
July 19, 2017, 02:21:28 PM
#21
interested in one. Needs to be shipped to Europe. A group buy would be great. Thanks for doing this
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 252
July 19, 2017, 02:06:57 PM
#20
Interested in 1
Shipment in Italy
If 30.2 Gh/s 750 W confirmed.
Reasonable waiting times ( approx end 2017......)
Reasonable price.
CE-Marking present.
full member
Activity: 201
Merit: 100
July 19, 2017, 01:56:17 PM
#19
Im in for upwards of 10-20
member
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Geniuses are always branded as crazy
July 19, 2017, 01:49:05 PM
#18
With the Announcement from Inno for the A5 Dashminer I may be interested in helping to coordinate a group buy here on the forum. I don't yet know if Inno will be interested, but I have helped organize a group buy here for the A4. So we have some history doing this.

So I am tossing this out to the community to see how much interest there woul be in a group buy. We are short on details at this time and Inno may not be price competitive with Bitmain. But I will be glad to pass along anything I can and see if a group buy is possible.

So post here, let us know how many units you might be interested buying and your location. We would likely need a trusted person in your part of the world to take delivery and forward miners unless you want to buy in a larger quantities. Then it may be possible to direct ship.

I am in the US so I can help facilitate US orders if the group buy turns out to be possible.

Historically, Innosillicon massively inflates their expected hashrate and delivers significantly less if you remember the A4 scenario, they initially promised a much higher hashrate than they eventually delivered.

However, if they really deliver 30GH @ 750w, I would be interested in 1.

Can you provide us a link where did you found that hashrate and watts.
Thanks
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
July 19, 2017, 01:23:48 PM
#17
With the Announcement from Inno for the A5 Dashminer I may be interested in helping to coordinate a group buy here on the forum. I don't yet know if Inno will be interested, but I have helped organize a group buy here for the A4. So we have some history doing this.

So I am tossing this out to the community to see how much interest there woul be in a group buy. We are short on details at this time and Inno may not be price competitive with Bitmain. But I will be glad to pass along anything I can and see if a group buy is possible.

So post here, let us know how many units you might be interested buying and your location. We would likely need a trusted person in your part of the world to take delivery and forward miners unless you want to buy in a larger quantities. Then it may be possible to direct ship.

I am in the US so I can help facilitate US orders if the group buy turns out to be possible.

Historically, Innosillicon massively inflates their expected hashrate and delivers significantly less if you remember the A4 scenario, they initially promised a much higher hashrate than they eventually delivered.

However, if they really deliver 30GH @ 750w, I would be interested in 1.

Me too with same conditions  Huh


I would also like to buy 1 (one) with same condifions and if I'll get the miner this year (2017) with an acceptable price.

I guess we need to compare what is already available on the market:
current best offer:
Bitmain 15GH/s ~3000 USD inc. power supply.


Additonal info that is mandatory for the import into the EU.
Does the miner  has the CE-Marking Huh Without it's prohibited to be imported and will be destroyed at the duty.


legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
July 19, 2017, 01:19:29 PM
#16
I have exchanged pm's  with op.

And will quote them:

I sent this to him:


I drafted this to put on your thread:

###############################

I would be willing to help with this.  I can hold funds escrow  whatever it takes.

At the moment  funds in my coinbase were frozen then released.

they were frozen in my blockchain.info then released

We all know that  the July 31- Aug 1  BTC restructure is happening.

I created  multiple core wallets  with multiple backups and have suspended escrow services for the time being.

Hashnest gave me this notice today.

Here is another interesting thing they will be doing.

https://www.hashnest.com/notifications/18?

All users on hashnest, please be advised below. To avoid risk of the possible bitcoin fork, hashnest decide to stop all the services for bitcoin wallet , hashrate market and PACMIC contracts payback during 2017/07/31 8:00-2017/08/03 8:00 beijing time.

I bring all this up  to encourage people to take the time to understand  how to handle their coins.

If I do escrow here for Longsnowsm  I am prepped and ready with   a fully backed up 0.14.2 core wallet.

I have worked with him before. Sucessfully

##############################################


Please let me know if it is okay to post it.

Best regards Phil


he replied :


Thanks Phil that would be great! Please go ahead and post it.

Of course all the exciting stuff happens when I am on vacation! Thankfully my phone half works here sometimes so I am trying to stay abreast of what is going on... Crazy times.

If everyone goes crazy and pulls out or freezes transactions in BTC this could get really ugly.

We will have to push Inno for a lot more detail on this group buy. They did over promise on the A4 and that miner did not measure up. It turned out to be very solid hardware after a firmware update but not hashing at the advertised rates. Also sounds like they may be pricing themselves out of the market from initial reports.

Thanks for offering to help with this. That will be a huge help having you on board for the escrow. Now if we can get Inno on board and the details work out having your help will greatly smooth out the process.  These group buys are a handful to manage.



we are in beginning stages at this moment.

After having coinbase freeze wallets on me for a few days and other weird happenings with other wallets and exchanges the last month  We will not be collecting any coins until August say 5 to even 9th.

Anyone that has played the preorder game knows caution is a must.  I go with the ½ a loaf method more than the all in move.


Longsnowsm will be back from vacation soon and post more info..  Just keep an eye on the thread.
hero member
Activity: 868
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July 19, 2017, 12:29:39 PM
#15
For those who have been around a little while we are familiar with Inno and how these announcements work. Previously on the A4 we were really early in the miner development when they started taking orders and the were 6 months out from having anything to ship.  The initial miner specs were very impressive. Then they started revising them down, and down some more. Many people paid for miners that were supposed to hash at almost double the rate they actually hashed at. So please keep this in mind.  I wouldn't want anyone caught off guard as we have seen this before.

Since they are hinting at a Sept/October time frame that would lead me to think they are further along in the development this time and that the specs may be close to actual numbers. However never count chickens before they are hatched.

So Inno has disappointed in hardware specs in the past, but the hardware once updated with the latest firmware has been solid.

As this post is a feeler for who might be interested we really do need a lot more detail before we can get excited. I like to see we have a lot of initial interest. The larger the volume an order we can place the better our odds of Inno helping us with a group buy.

Thanks everyone for your support and interest. Hopefully we will get some info soon from Inno.
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
July 19, 2017, 12:23:22 PM
#14
I'm interested in 1 and I am based in US.
legendary
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Merit: 1021
July 19, 2017, 12:22:16 PM
#13
Depending on the price I may be interested in one or two.
legendary
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Merit: 1415
July 19, 2017, 12:14:33 PM
#12
I know this is just to guage interest but its safe to say if there were a group buy for these if its real you will be able to fill your order.  Without price/timing/developed specs its tough to say.  If inno is spitting these out in sep or october at a decent rate im down for 1 or 2 but will watch to see how this progresses.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
July 19, 2017, 12:04:30 PM
#11
interested in 1 - 3. depend on the price. shipment to poland.

fortunately, I read today about D3 and A5. I was very close to transfering BTC for DM11G.
member
Activity: 122
Merit: 13
July 19, 2017, 10:34:30 AM
#10
I am new here and Looking for a miner soon and by the sound of 30GH this looks too good.
Count me in for 1. I am from India.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
July 19, 2017, 10:34:03 AM
#9
new p2pool dashcoin algoritm X11 stratum+tcp://95.59.72.81:7903
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