[Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! - page 101.

John (John K.)

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Quote from: John (John K.) on April 19, 2013, 08:49:55 PM

I have received the email from OP and I'll verify it when I get home. I'm on mobile currently. Thanks.

I confirm I have received the following from OP
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1. A scan of my driver's license.
2. A picture of me holding and showing my driver's license.

Bicknellski

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So we send to John? Or to you OP? Little confused here.

Bicknellski 20 BTC with fees the total is 20.5 BTC.

The total chips is 256.410256410256 or 256 chips in total rounded down to nearest whole number.

I agree with the terms and the escrow. We will also need to provide via email our shipping preferences to us and our address or are you going to use only 1 shipping agent OP?

daemondazz

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I do all my work in gEDA - gschem and pcb.

Signus

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Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 12:59:10 AM

Quote from: Signus on April 20, 2013, 12:39:58 AM

Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 12:19:17 AM

At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.

Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.

But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.

If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!

samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

I "grew up" on OrCAD 10 through 15, which had tons of bugs and quirks but was powerful once you knew how to work around them. For the past 2 years I've been using Eagle at work and home. I have not had the chance to use Altium, PADS, Pulsonix or others. Altium seems to be the de facto standard these days, but seats are SO EXPENSIVE.

I've gotten used to hand-routing everything anyway (used to do a lot of analog design), so Eagle is fine for me. Luckily I haven't had to do too much impedance-controlled lines, and what I have had to do I've just calculated/routed by hand.

That's nice. I wish I had used Altium for my RF projects. I always ruined the trace width in Eagle, since I couldn't group a set of traces to change the width on the final product at the end of the day would have different traces and impedances per line. It was awful.

I like OrCAD, but I think it has terrible part integration. I can deal with Eagle more than I can OrCAD, which I just use for simulation.

samurai1200

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Quote from: Signus on April 20, 2013, 12:39:58 AM

Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 12:19:17 AM

At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.

Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.

But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.

If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!

samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

I "grew up" on OrCAD 10 through 15, which had tons of bugs and quirks but was powerful once you knew how to work around them. For the past 2 years I've been using Eagle at work and home. I have not had the chance to use Altium, PADS, Pulsonix or others. Altium seems to be the de facto standard these days, but seats are SO EXPENSIVE.

I've gotten used to hand-routing everything anyway (used to do a lot of analog design), so Eagle is fine for me. Luckily I haven't had to do too much impedance-controlled lines, and what I have had to do I've just calculated/routed by hand.

Signus

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Quote from: samurai1200 on April 20, 2013, 12:19:17 AM

At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.

Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.

But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.

If you do that, I'd be interested because any amount of simplification in building the system will make it worthwhile in the long run. Once I get those datasheets I'm going to designing throughout the night!

samurai, do you primarily use Altium or Eagle? I'm fond of Eagle, but I'm getting into Altium as I like a lot of it's routing features. Eagle to me was like fighting with..well..an Eagle. Haha.

samurai1200

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At work (where I am an EE doing PCB design), I or my assembly ladies routinely solder down QFN-28 + thermal pad packages (careful use of a hot air gun). With my current order (12 chips), if I plan on making the PCB myself, for myself, I'll probably go this route. If I find that there's interest in my board on this forum (as I'll also be doing microcontroller firmware and PC interface also), then I'll probably open up a service where I do a batch assembly order (for BTC!). I would imagine theres a bazillion others on this forum planning on doing the same thing though. So it might end up that I just use their services.

Once Avalon releases the necessary information (essentially an app datasheet for the Avalon processor), I'll likely be developing applications for single chips ("just plug it in to USB and go"), 4 chips, and 10 or 12 chips (depending on data bandwidth scalability of common 32-bit processors). Again, I would imagine many people on this forum are planning the same. Lotta bright people round these parts.

But for now, we're all just salivating over the idea of the Avalon processor app note/datasheet.

Signus

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Documentation is what I'm waiting for. I'm not going to invest in a set of chips that I may not have the hardware or steady hands to build. I always start with an initial design and a simple BOM before I even bother dropping the money.

I know the guys over at the DIY ASIC Build thread have come up with some concepts, but considering nobody really knows anything about these Avalon chips yet it is probably mostly educated guesses, which I'm fine with. I'll have to read more and see if any of them found anything.

But I will have to see if I can find a place to do batch jobs with a reflow oven. I just want my own, damnit.

achillez

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Quote from: Signus on April 19, 2013, 11:03:55 PM

Quote from: achillez on April 19, 2013, 10:56:41 PM

I'm interested but who is going to build these PCBs? Are you expecting everyone is going to DIY? This is not a simple matter. Soldering down 200+ chips is very tricky, chances are people are going to damage a significant # w/out the right reflow equipment.

For a price you can probably find somebody who will will take your PCB and chips and do all of the reflow work for you. Worth it for large batch jobs and tons of chips. Even for a single QNF8, the soldering would be a pain.

There are some of us who have some experience with PCB design. I myself have quite a bit, but not too sure where to start with these ASIC chips at the moment. Has Avalon released documentation for them yet?

Best I can tell not yet

Signus

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Quote from: achillez on April 19, 2013, 10:56:41 PM

I'm interested but who is going to build these PCBs? Are you expecting everyone is going to DIY? This is not a simple matter. Soldering down 200+ chips is very tricky, chances are people are going to damage a significant # w/out the right reflow equipment.

For a price you can probably find somebody who will will take your PCB and chips and do all of the reflow work for you. Worth it for large batch jobs and tons of chips. Even for a single QNF8, the soldering would be a pain.

There are some of us who have some experience with PCB design. I myself have quite a bit, but not too sure where to start with these ASIC chips at the moment. Has Avalon released documentation for them yet?

achillez

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I'm interested but who is going to build these PCBs? Are you expecting everyone is going to DIY? This is not a simple matter. Soldering down 200+ chips is very tricky, chances are people are going to damage a significant # w/out the right reflow equipment.

John (John K.)

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Quote from: Egon on April 19, 2013, 10:08:29 PM

When do you anticipate having the address in place with John K?

The escrow address is given above in the signed contract.

Egon

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When do you anticipate having the address in place with John K?

ragingazn628

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Quote from: ryepdx on April 19, 2013, 09:27:43 PM

I'm interested. Put me down for 480 chips (37.44 BTC).

Thanks!

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ryepdx

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I'm interested. Put me down for 480 chips (37.44 BTC).

Thanks!

John (John K.)

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I have received the email from OP and I'll verify it when I get home. I'm on mobile currently. Thanks.

ragingazn628

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Quote from: John (John K.) on April 19, 2013, 08:47:05 PM

Quote from: ragingazn628 on April 19, 2013, 08:40:31 PM

Quote from: John (John K.) on April 19, 2013, 08:20:20 PM

Quote from: ragingazn628 on April 19, 2013, 08:00:42 PM

@ JohnK and fpgaminer

I am willing to provide JohnK with my identity with the following proof:

1. A scan of my driver's license.
2. A picture of me holding and showing my driver's license.
3. And if needed I can record myself with my driver's license so no suspicion of photoshop etc.

When I started this group buy I did not expect any drama at all. My #1 goal for this group buy right now is to redeem myself from the past. Again I did not scam anyone it was a misunderstanding but looking back at what has happened I do realized that I did make a mistake. So I would like to follow through with this group buy towards a path of redemption. When you are on the internet, apparently nothing you cannot hide anything

Without further a due we will start sending BTC to the escrow's address when we hit ~600 BTC.

JohnK let me know what and how I need to sign to get rid of any possible discrepancy. Thanks.

Quote from: Vycid on April 19, 2013, 07:13:24 PM

Put me down for 5 BTC. I may increase that stake later.

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Quote from: Kevlar on April 19, 2013, 07:27:27 PM

I'm in for 2.028 BTC. (26 chips) Please add me to the list.

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Confirmed. The ID and verification information can be sent to my personal email listed with my GPG key above (the.john.is.here -at- gmail)

As for signing, I am not sure what you can sign here - if you have an OTC account with GPG, you can use that to sign your message here. I am signing to prove that I control this account currently.

Before I send please confirm that you will NOT release my information unless there is any discrepancy from me. It will be fore YOUR eyes only.

Confirmed. The information will be made public if problems arise from your end of the deal, included but not limited to the failure of sending chips, extended hiatus after the chips have been sent to you, and the general failure to withhold your part of obligations. Of course, I will delay the publicity of such documents unless there is absolute reason to do so as the release of such documents is irreversible.

Email sent please confirm.

We will send BTC when 780 BTC is reached. This first pre-order batch will close at 780 so I can divide and add up the 2.1BTC avalon shipping costs for everyone! Got about ~190 more BTC to go guys!

John (John K.)

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Quote from: ragingazn628 on April 19, 2013, 08:40:31 PM

Quote from: John (John K.) on April 19, 2013, 08:20:20 PM

Quote from: ragingazn628 on April 19, 2013, 08:00:42 PM

@ JohnK and fpgaminer

I am willing to provide JohnK with my identity with the following proof:

1. A scan of my driver's license.
2. A picture of me holding and showing my driver's license.
3. And if needed I can record myself with my driver's license so no suspicion of photoshop etc.

When I started this group buy I did not expect any drama at all. My #1 goal for this group buy right now is to redeem myself from the past. Again I did not scam anyone it was a misunderstanding but looking back at what has happened I do realized that I did make a mistake. So I would like to follow through with this group buy towards a path of redemption. When you are on the internet, apparently nothing you cannot hide anything

Without further a due we will start sending BTC to the escrow's address when we hit ~600 BTC.

JohnK let me know what and how I need to sign to get rid of any possible discrepancy. Thanks.

Quote from: Vycid on April 19, 2013, 07:13:24 PM

Put me down for 5 BTC. I may increase that stake later.

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Quote from: Kevlar on April 19, 2013, 07:27:27 PM

I'm in for 2.028 BTC. (26 chips) Please add me to the list.

added

Confirmed. The ID and verification information can be sent to my personal email listed with my GPG key above (the.john.is.here -at- gmail)

As for signing, I am not sure what you can sign here - if you have an OTC account with GPG, you can use that to sign your message here. I am signing to prove that I control this account currently.

Before I send please confirm that you will NOT release my information unless there is any discrepancy from me. It will be fore YOUR eyes only.

Confirmed. The information will be made public if problems arise from your end of the deal, included but not limited to the failure of sending chips, extended hiatus after the chips have been sent to you, and the general failure to withhold your part of obligations. Of course, I will delay the publicity of such documents unless there is absolute reason to do so as the release of such documents is irreversible.

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Quote from: John (John K.) on April 19, 2013, 08:20:20 PM

Quote from: ragingazn628 on April 19, 2013, 08:00:42 PM

@ JohnK and fpgaminer

I am willing to provide JohnK with my identity with the following proof:

1. A scan of my driver's license.
2. A picture of me holding and showing my driver's license.
3. And if needed I can record myself with my driver's license so no suspicion of photoshop etc.

When I started this group buy I did not expect any drama at all. My #1 goal for this group buy right now is to redeem myself from the past. Again I did not scam anyone it was a misunderstanding but looking back at what has happened I do realized that I did make a mistake. So I would like to follow through with this group buy towards a path of redemption. When you are on the internet, apparently nothing you cannot hide anything

Without further a due we will start sending BTC to the escrow's address when we hit ~600 BTC.

JohnK let me know what and how I need to sign to get rid of any possible discrepancy. Thanks.

Quote from: Vycid on April 19, 2013, 07:13:24 PM

Put me down for 5 BTC. I may increase that stake later.

added

Quote from: Kevlar on April 19, 2013, 07:27:27 PM

I'm in for 2.028 BTC. (26 chips) Please add me to the list.

added

Confirmed. The ID and verification information can be sent to my personal email listed with my GPG key above (the.john.is.here -at- gmail)

As for signing, I am not sure what you can sign here - if you have an OTC account with GPG, you can use that to sign your message here. I am signing to prove that I control this account currently.

Before I send please confirm that you will NOT release my information unless there is any discrepancy from me. It will be fore YOUR eyes only.

John (John K.)

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Merit: 1227

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Quote from: ragingazn628 on April 19, 2013, 08:00:42 PM

@ JohnK and fpgaminer

I am willing to provide JohnK with my identity with the following proof:

1. A scan of my driver's license.
2. A picture of me holding and showing my driver's license.
3. And if needed I can record myself with my driver's license so no suspicion of photoshop etc.

When I started this group buy I did not expect any drama at all. My #1 goal for this group buy right now is to redeem myself from the past. Again I did not scam anyone it was a misunderstanding but looking back at what has happened I do realized that I did make a mistake. So I would like to follow through with this group buy towards a path of redemption. When you are on the internet, apparently nothing you cannot hide anything

Without further a due we will start sending BTC to the escrow's address when we hit ~600 BTC.

JohnK let me know what and how I need to sign to get rid of any possible discrepancy. Thanks.

Quote from: Vycid on April 19, 2013, 07:13:24 PM

Put me down for 5 BTC. I may increase that stake later.

added

Quote from: Kevlar on April 19, 2013, 07:27:27 PM

I'm in for 2.028 BTC. (26 chips) Please add me to the list.

added

Confirmed. The ID and verification information can be sent to my personal email listed with my GPG key above (the.john.is.here -at- gmail)

As for signing, I am not sure what you can sign here - if you have an OTC account with GPG, you can use that to sign your message here. I am signing to prove that I control this account currently.

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