Noitev,
How did the meeting with prodigits go?
How did the meeting with prodigits go?
They killed Noitev.
Topic: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! - page 33. (Read 150608 times)
August 27, 2013, 11:35:16 AM
They killed Noitev.
August 27, 2013, 06:52:04 AM
Raging,
how do I send you updated shipping info? Is there a form/spreadsheet for it?
how do I send you updated shipping info? Is there a form/spreadsheet for it?
August 27, 2013, 02:23:01 AM
Hey guys I made a promise in the other group buy to make at least one post a day so I'm posting here now too. Prodigits7 will be coming to my house tomorrow. I just gotta confirm with him.
Thanks Ragin. What is the current status in terms of who the chips are shipping to? Are they still shipping to you, and if so, are you shipping them all to ryepdx to redistribute? Are you also providing him with the list of shipping addresses?
cheers
scotjam
August 27, 2013, 02:21:26 AM
I'm scared. 
My mom moved away from her home and rented it to someone else and now I need to shift the delivery address to my apartment....
Crap..
What do I do.
My mom moved away from her home and rented it to someone else and now I need to shift the delivery address to my apartment....
Crap..
What do I do.
can you get a mail re-direction?
I would set up a mail redirection, and also talk to whoever she rented it to, leave them your number and ask them to call you if they receive any packages with your name. Mail redirections are not 100% accurate.
Also, unless you were planning on assembling the chips yourself, you are probably having the chips shipped to an assembler. If that's the case, contact the assembler and just have them change the shipping address (as far as I'm aware, all of the assemblers are responsive right now).
August 26, 2013, 09:51:42 PM
I'm scared.
My mom moved away from her home and rented it to someone else and now I need to shift the delivery address to my apartment....
Crap..
What do I do.
My mom moved away from her home and rented it to someone else and now I need to shift the delivery address to my apartment....
Crap..
What do I do.
can you get a mail re-direction?
August 26, 2013, 09:21:46 PM
Hey guys I made a promise in the other group buy to make at least one post a day so I'm posting here now too. Prodigits7 will be coming to my house tomorrow. I just gotta confirm with him.
August 26, 2013, 07:57:54 PM
I'm scared.
My mom moved away from her home and rented it to someone else and now I need to shift the delivery address to my apartment....
Crap..
What do I do.
My mom moved away from her home and rented it to someone else and now I need to shift the delivery address to my apartment....
Crap..
What do I do.
August 26, 2013, 06:32:45 PM
Avalon chip refunds doesn't help all refund the pcb's etc that go into to be ready for the chips so the chips actually have value.. you cant hash with just a chip
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
Unfortunately it does more than not help... IT SCREWS the diy manufacturing people royally.
At this point I am still hopeful that Yifu gets the chips in everyone's hands but our group is not waiting for that and have started down legal road for a resolution given we have not been given any information or responses to our questions since July 28th, 2013 when developer chips we were supposed to have received and used at our fabrication for testing the line didn't show up. 3 weeks late is not cool and we pulled the plug.
Suffice to say there are many in this community that might have to go after Avalon for a pound of flesh if this drags out any longer. Better late than never doesn't work in Bitcoin mining so there might be a point in time with these chips that lawsuit might be the only way to recoup some of the losses.
AVALON Scam Accusation thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/avalon-scam-accusation-thread-258829
August 26, 2013, 09:42:33 AM
Noitev,
How did the meeting with prodigits go?
How did the meeting with prodigits go?
August 25, 2013, 05:31:26 AM
Ya... more of hope and prayer for all. I hate to see other people put in months of hard work and get screwed by Yifu this way. Maybe the BTC Gods will shine fortune on us all and there will be 500 BTC to the USD just as those DIY miners fire up.
August 25, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
Avalon chip refunds doesn't help all refund the pcb's etc that go into to be ready for the chips so the chips actually have value.. you cant hash with just a chip
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
I wish everyone the best of luck on this and I really want to see the DIY fabrication go forward they deserve the support even if it is at a small loss to those chip buyers. You never know the BTC might shoot through the roof again and you can recoup the ROI in that spike.
The BTC spiking is not an acceptable compromise. We have accepted the risk of a BTC crash as well. The ROI computations must be based on current BTC exchange rates.
he knows, it is just something we all say these days when caught in crap like this... I mean Avalon didn't really sign anything did they on these chip orders?? I hope they gave some kind of basis to go after them
the fact they are talking of next gen already is kinda bunk.. just like BFL - just hope KNC and bitfury pound these two fools into their grave
Ya... more of hope and prayer for all. I hate to see other people put in months of hard work and get screwed by Yifu this way. Maybe the BTC Gods will shine fortune on us all and there will be 500 BTC to the USD just as those DIY miners fire up.
August 25, 2013, 02:22:53 AM
At least Avalon have delivered in reasonable quantities
Did anyone hear back from JohnK conclusively confirming that he was trying to change the shipping address of these chips to ryepdx?
Ragingazn628 - has the spreadsheet been updated with the transactions that have been confirmed in this thread? Also, can you confirm that if the chips are shipped to you, you will be forwarding them to ryepdx to distribute? Does he have a copy of the shipping information requested by the members of this group buy (I think you had set up a google form to collect this)?
Did anyone hear back from JohnK conclusively confirming that he was trying to change the shipping address of these chips to ryepdx?
Ragingazn628 - has the spreadsheet been updated with the transactions that have been confirmed in this thread? Also, can you confirm that if the chips are shipped to you, you will be forwarding them to ryepdx to distribute? Does he have a copy of the shipping information requested by the members of this group buy (I think you had set up a google form to collect this)?
August 25, 2013, 02:16:44 AM
Avalon chip refunds doesn't help all refund the pcb's etc that go into to be ready for the chips so the chips actually have value.. you cant hash with just a chip
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
I wish everyone the best of luck on this and I really want to see the DIY fabrication go forward they deserve the support even if it is at a small loss to those chip buyers. You never know the BTC might shoot through the roof again and you can recoup the ROI in that spike.
The BTC spiking is not an acceptable compromise. We have accepted the risk of a BTC crash as well. The ROI computations must be based on current BTC exchange rates.
he knows, it is just something we all say these days when caught in crap like this... I mean Avalon didn't really sign anything did they on these chip orders?? I hope they gave some kind of basis to go after them
the fact they are talking of next gen already is kinda bunk.. just like BFL - just hope KNC and bitfury pound these two fools into their grave
August 25, 2013, 02:03:54 AM
Avalon chip refunds doesn't help all refund the pcb's etc that go into to be ready for the chips so the chips actually have value.. you cant hash with just a chip
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
I wish everyone the best of luck on this and I really want to see the DIY fabrication go forward they deserve the support even if it is at a small loss to those chip buyers. You never know the BTC might shoot through the roof again and you can recoup the ROI in that spike.
The BTC spiking is not an acceptable compromise. We have accepted the risk of a BTC crash as well. The ROI computations must be based on current BTC exchange rates.
August 25, 2013, 01:32:52 AM
Avalon chip refunds doesn't help all refund the pcb's etc that go into to be ready for the chips so the chips actually have value.. you cant hash with just a chip
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
Unfortunately it does more than not help... IT SCREWS the diy manufacturing people royally.
At this point I am still hopeful that Yifu gets the chips in everyone's hands but our group is not waiting for that and have started down legal road for a resolution given we have not been given any information or responses to our questions since July 28th, 2013 when developer chips we were supposed to have received and used at our fabrication for testing the line didn't show up. 3 weeks late is not cool and we pulled the plug.
Suffice to say there are many in this community that might have to go after Avalon for a pound of flesh if this drags out any longer. Better late than never doesn't work in Bitcoin mining so there might be a point in time with these chips that lawsuit might be the only way to recoup some of the losses.
Back to the group thread here...
I wish everyone the best of luck on this and I really want to see the DIY fabrication go forward they deserve the support even if it is at a small loss to those chip buyers. You never know the BTC might shoot through the roof again and you can recoup the ROI in that spike.
August 24, 2013, 10:14:59 PM
Avalon chip refunds doesn't help all refund the pcb's etc that go into to be ready for the chips so the chips actually have value.. you cant hash with just a chip
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
they would have to give double to make everyone whole but we know we might not even get anything
August 24, 2013, 09:47:04 PM
even if I got these this weekend, my two K16 would take 50 days to break even
if it goes another month, probably be around 80 days or more.
I feel for you guys with the big orders, this is ugly
if it goes another month, probably be around 80 days or more.
I feel for you guys with the big orders, this is ugly
+ ROI is good...
As long as the mofo's ship soon we can salvage what we put in.
As for offer from prodigits7 that was a deal on the chips. Given that there is still a window for the chips to actually arrive and still be good for ROI selling them sub cost at this point is panic selling. If you dump like that anyone would be interested in going for it. I for one would rather have Avalon give our COOP our refund on our chips as requested on our support ticket August 5th but acquiring more chips particularly if you have access to fab is a risky move but potentially rewarding if the price is right ROI can be better if those chips arrive in the next week or two.
I do not have a dog in this group any longer but seeing prodigits7 actively engaged and making deals would put my mind at ease. The problems we faced with this group buy in the past was Ragin being awol.
August 24, 2013, 03:28:11 PM
You're exactly right bassclef. Like anybody else, I liked the price...that's all.
August 23, 2013, 07:14:24 PM
I don't usually reveal PMs, but this is a peculiar scenario.
I got an offer from prodigits7 (supposedly raginazn's business partner) for my chips. 12 BTC through escrow contingent on raginazn delivering or not. It seems even his "business colleague" (still not convinced that isn't a sock puppet) thinks there's a chance raginazn is going to scam us. I just thought it was kind of fishy and wanted everyone to know about it....
This just gets worse and worse...
I think it is time for JohnK to attempt to re-rout the chips to a more trusted person (I do not want to do it btw- too busy). He should probably look into rerouting ragin's other group buy's KNC orders as well. This still stinks like scam.
I got an offer from prodigits7 (supposedly raginazn's business partner) for my chips. 12 BTC through escrow contingent on raginazn delivering or not. It seems even his "business colleague" (still not convinced that isn't a sock puppet) thinks there's a chance raginazn is going to scam us. I just thought it was kind of fishy and wanted everyone to know about it....
This just gets worse and worse...
I think it is time for JohnK to attempt to re-rout the chips to a more trusted person (I do not want to do it btw- too busy). He should probably look into rerouting ragin's other group buy's KNC orders as well. This still stinks like scam.
I don't necessarily think it raises a red flag. Maybe he liked your price, needed a few more chips but not enough to commit the full 12btc sight unseen.
The reality is we may not get the shipping info changed like we wanted to, so there's a certain amount of trust needed with ragingazn. Sure he's non-responsive, somewhat unprofessional (could be age-related) but I don't think he's going to run with chips that are rapidly declining in value. And there's a reason why we have his verified address through John K which I don't need to spell out.
Would I prefer the shipping info changed so ryepdx can distribute them? Yes. Do I believe Avalon will change it? Probably not. I don't think anyone's successfully had their shipping address changed with these chip orders. Zefir's 2nd batch was delivered today, and this batch was ordered 11 days later.
August 23, 2013, 06:27:56 PM
I was under the impression that the decision to reroute the chips to ryepdx was made a couple weeks ago (by clear popular opinion) and John had already submitted a support ticket to Avalon to do just that. The point of the escrow was to arbitrate situations like this one.
John - can you comment?
Good, I was not aware of this. I hope Avalon actually answers a support ticket for once. John - can you comment?
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