Topic: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! - page 44. (Read 150591 times)
July 27, 2013, 05:16:30 AM
In my humble opinion, no family emergency justifies raging's silence here. It's been *eleven* days since he last logged into the forum. If he has internet access, he totally must show up and give some explanations. Otherwise, he should have taken measures to keep people updated via someone else. I have no chips in this group buy (sold them to ecliptic) but I'm following it nonetheless and feel concerned about raging's absence and what it means to the chip owners.
July 27, 2013, 02:18:41 AM
To be fair, putting things in perspective it is very easy to step away from the forums for a week or two without anything going on.
Now imagine he is selling a house. I don't know about a family emergency, but that on top of the rest would make it easy to forget about the shipment entirely. If he has provided an email maybe email...
Now imagine he is selling a house. I don't know about a family emergency, but that on top of the rest would make it easy to forget about the shipment entirely. If he has provided an email maybe email...
To put things in perspective... this is nearly $100k of merchandise. Avalon could have shipped our order in the week he's been away. If he knew he was going to be away for an extended period he should have let us know and provided contact info.
I hope this is not a serious family emergency... but if it is, I hope he will understand we do not have much choice but to protect our investments here.
July 27, 2013, 01:10:03 AM
To be fair, putting things in perspective it is very easy to step away from the forums for a week or two without anything going on.
Now imagine he is selling a house. I don't know about a family emergency, but that on top of the rest would make it easy to forget about the shipment entirely. If he has provided an email maybe email...
Now imagine he is selling a house. I don't know about a family emergency, but that on top of the rest would make it easy to forget about the shipment entirely. If he has provided an email maybe email...
July 26, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
I thought he had a family emergency ?
July 26, 2013, 10:32:50 PM
Also, anyone know how to get Avalon to change the address? Do they have a phone number/physical address? I guess I'm better off starting the preparations first in case he's still not responsive on Monday...
July 26, 2013, 10:11:56 PM
I suggested until Monday... We need to confirm he is even still alive and not in jail. People don't generally just drop off the face of the Earth with hundreds of thousands of dollars of contracts hanging in their balance sheets, especially after making it a point that they are trying to gain the trust of a community of peers. He's either in some sort of serious trouble or he's scamming us.
July 26, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
ryepdx, he definitely does deserve the entire management fee for the group buy effort. However, the only reason why we're even having this discussion is because he is missing in action. Hence, he (you) who takes over should get all the management fee. If he does show up later on, after all is taken care off, then it'll be up to you to compensate him with whatever amount you feel he deserves.
Also, as JohnK has mentioned he might be in a dire emergency so we might need to give him more time before we take any drastic action. With that said, how long do you guys think would be reasonable time before we do take some kind of action?
Also, as JohnK has mentioned he might be in a dire emergency so we might need to give him more time before we take any drastic action. With that said, how long do you guys think would be reasonable time before we do take some kind of action?
July 26, 2013, 08:14:04 PM
Escrow held for managing the Group Buy should be given to him on completion of shipping.
If I do end up doing shipping instead of ragingazn628, I don't know if I'd feel comfortable taking the entirety of the management fee. Ragingazn628 got us this far, so I figure he's probably entitled to most of it. Though I definitely wouldn't mind some sort of compensation!
July 26, 2013, 08:08:04 PM
I am all for change of shipping address if possible.
We will need to send the new LEADER the shipping details.
Are we all in agreement for Ryepdx? I vote for him to be the one that takes over and takes shipment.
Escrow held for managing the Group Buy should be given to him on completion of shipping.
We will need to send the new LEADER the shipping details.
Are we all in agreement for Ryepdx? I vote for him to be the one that takes over and takes shipment.
Escrow held for managing the Group Buy should be given to him on completion of shipping.
July 26, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
I just bought Ragin's old house and await my housewarming gift! 
July 26, 2013, 02:14:24 PM
I can drive to CT for a pretty marginal amount of money worst case scenario. On the same note I can be he leader if you guys are really desperate. I do already have about 600 chips on the line...
July 26, 2013, 01:32:58 PM
I live in New York and could drive out to Conn to pick up the chips. As I have stated before, when I offered to handle shipping, theft is against my religion and I take it seriously. Ideally we could just get Avalon to change the shipping address. You'd think they would be accomodating for an $80,000 sale...
July 26, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
I appreciate you guys looking at all possible options. I am hoping for best case scenario, that Regin will return and get us back on track after dealing with his family emergency as its understandable that sometime family emergency can be priority number 1.
With that said. Lets start planning for worst case scenario. We need to select a volunteer and fund his efforts if needed, so he may be onsite when the package is delivered. I personally have 300 chips on order to be assembled by ryepdx. also bought in to one of his KNC group buys.
Also, If this turns out to be a scam, we should also start planing for legal action.
Again, I am hoping for the best, but lets start planing for the worst.
With that said. Lets start planning for worst case scenario. We need to select a volunteer and fund his efforts if needed, so he may be onsite when the package is delivered. I personally have 300 chips on order to be assembled by ryepdx. also bought in to one of his KNC group buys.
Also, If this turns out to be a scam, we should also start planing for legal action.
Again, I am hoping for the best, but lets start planing for the worst.
Yeah, I personally think and believe that this isn't a scam (seeing that he could well go MIA after the chips are received, and his information and stuff matches out), but he might be in a dire emergency though.
July 26, 2013, 11:19:18 AM
I appreciate you guys looking at all possible options. I am hoping for best case scenario, that Regin will return and get us back on track after dealing with his family emergency as its understandable that sometime family emergency can be priority number 1.
With that said. Lets start planning for worst case scenario. We need to select a volunteer and fund his efforts if needed, so he may be onsite when the package is delivered. I personally have 300 chips on order to be assembled by ryepdx. also bought in to one of his KNC group buys.
Also, If this turns out to be a scam, we should also start planing for legal action.
Again, I am hoping for the best, but lets start planing for the worst.
With that said. Lets start planning for worst case scenario. We need to select a volunteer and fund his efforts if needed, so he may be onsite when the package is delivered. I personally have 300 chips on order to be assembled by ryepdx. also bought in to one of his KNC group buys.
Also, If this turns out to be a scam, we should also start planing for legal action.
Again, I am hoping for the best, but lets start planing for the worst.
July 26, 2013, 11:04:03 AM
If it is at a deserted address in the USA, I'd be willing to fly there and pick them up/ ship them for whatever it costs...
Ugh, really? ... I hope it hasn't come to that. I thought raging had the foresight to choose an appropriate address.
PS: That location is a house, and a fairly new one for the record. Nope, it's not a dilapidated shed or anything like that...
Any 'surefire' ways of getting hold Avalon?
I haven't heard of any, unfortunately. They seem to be impossible to get ahold of by design.
I'll try and ask someone in China if they know of any other ways to get hold of them.
I think a good step at this point would be for John K to give ragin's number to ryepdx and have him call. This would accomplish a couple things. It would give us an update, potentially. Also, it would allow the two of them to talk about changing leadership of delivery and how that would be accomplished.
Yep, ryepdx already requested and I gave him the number about 10 minutes ago.
July 26, 2013, 11:03:07 AM
I think a good step at this point would be for John K to give ragin's number to ryepdx and have him call. This would accomplish a couple things. It would give us an update, potentially. Also, it would allow the two of them to talk about changing leadership of delivery and how that would be accomplished.
July 26, 2013, 10:56:57 AM
Any 'surefire' ways of getting hold Avalon?
I haven't heard of any, unfortunately. They seem to be impossible to get ahold of by design.
Edit: Just called ragingazn628 and left a message on his voicemail. Hopefully he'll reply soon.
July 26, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
I've placed a note with all escrow order like this before placing the actual order, so Avalon should be clear that this is a group buy. This should qualify as a special case, right?
It should as far as I'm concerned. It sounds like they mostly just didn't want to have their resources diverted by people running an ad-hoc exchange on them.
Great, then I'll try to get hold of Avalon either way or other. Any 'surefire' ways of getting hold Avalon?
Just checked my records, and I'm quite sure that he owns that address the chips are being sent to. (utility bills, photos of house with door open etc)
July 26, 2013, 10:47:27 AM
I've placed a note with all escrow order like this before placing the actual order, so Avalon should be clear that this is a group buy. This should qualify as a special case, right?
It should as far as I'm concerned. It sounds like they mostly just didn't want to have their resources diverted by people running an ad-hoc exchange on them.
July 26, 2013, 10:41:24 AM
We really need John K to weigh in on the address change policy. Anyone buddy buddy with Bitsyncom? Maybe he could shed some light too.
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No Address Change - Unless it is a special case no address change will be allowed, please allocate time correctly to handle the delivery of these units, There has been too many people attempting to sell these units and changing their shipping address.....
I've placed a note with all escrow order like this before placing the actual order, so Avalon should be clear that this is a group buy. This should qualify as a special case, right?
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