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Topic: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com - page 4. (Read 7453 times)

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October 30, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
#70
Nice setup  crazydane. Temperatues looking good and also the efficiency across the board. How much is that water cooling solution consuming energy wise?

The D5 PWM pump consumes maybe 12w at 1.5 gpm flow rate.  The 120mm fans on the radiator only consume 0.6W each at 1600 RPM (Noctua NF-F12 PWM).  So the water cooling add a whopping 14.4 watts to the power consumption of that rig.   I'm adding a 2nd 480 rad to get the temps down in the 30's as my ambient to coolant differential is rather high right now (about 20 degrees C where it should be more like 2 degrees). 

Cool, sounds interesting. Thanks for sharing, appreciated!
sr. member
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October 30, 2017, 01:17:44 PM
#69
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.

You already have it ? Share your result.
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October 30, 2017, 01:00:34 PM
#68
Nice setup  crazydane. Temperatues looking good and also the efficiency across the board. How much is that water cooling solution consuming energy wise?

The D5 PWM pump consumes maybe 12w at 1.5 gpm flow rate.  The 120mm fans on the radiator only consume 0.6W each at 1600 RPM (Noctua NF-F12 PWM).  So the water cooling add a whopping 14.4 watts to the power consumption of that rig.   I'm adding a 2nd 480 rad to get the temps down in the 30's as my ambient to coolant differential is rather high right now (about 20 degrees C where it should be more like 2 degrees). 
sr. member
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October 30, 2017, 12:37:08 PM
#67
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.

That is early than expected.
newbie
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October 30, 2017, 12:20:15 PM
#66
I already have one here. Eager to test it now.
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October 30, 2017, 07:58:38 AM
#65
What is this?
newbie
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October 30, 2017, 07:54:19 AM
#64
I keep struggling to understand why anybody would want one of these over a 1080ti.  I understand they're less expensive and have a performance boost over the 1070's....but the 1080ti is still the best price per performance tradeoff despite its higher price.
legendary
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October 30, 2017, 07:42:30 AM
#63
Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)

What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining

 Only on the ETH algorithm, nothing else is as picky about memory - but it likely will easily beat the 1070 and MIGHT argue or even beat the 1080ti on ETH mining (the 1070 beats the 1080 on ETH due to that GDDR5X).

 It should fall in just a HAIR under the 1080 and easily beat the 1070 on everything else.

 My pair of Aorus GTX 1080ti cards (the BASE Aorus, not the higher-clocked version) pull about 780 sol/s at 250 watts (100% tdp), +100 core +150 mem, after a fair bit of tweek testing the core and memory settings seem to be optimal for it on ZCash.
 They still pulls 720 at 200 watts TDP (80%) and the "efficiency knee" seems to be somewhere in the 150 watt (620 sol) to 175 watt (680 sol) range.
 One is in my game system running Win7, the other in my experimental B250 Mining Pro riser rig running XUbuntu LINUX - but the stats are the same give or take measurement limits.
 Even pushing, I've never gotten an Aorus to go much over 70C on 80% fan even with a 90F ambient - and the one in my gaming machine has never gone over 66C or so since it's in an air-conditioned room at around 80F ambient in a case with good airflow.

 My Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1080ti pulls close to those numbers, but falls down some on the high end as it overheats faster and can't maintain boost as well - and it runs 3-4C hotter unless I pump the fan up to 90% or so.
 Up side, it's only 8+6 for power connection instead of 8+8 for the Aorus.

 Best I've seen out of a 1070 was around 450 ballpark, some folks have claimed a lot higher but they apparently have had a lot better luck on getting their memory to overclock a lot than I have.



I guess it’s more or less up to what you’ll want to mine in the end, then. I’d still recommend possibly getting a 1080 over a 1070 ti if pricing stays as it is (mostly because of mining flexibility and perhaps better resale down the line) and until we actually get reliable and confirmed mining hashrate reports here. Forgot to specify Ethereum there, mining profitability has shifted a lot in the last few months Wink
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October 30, 2017, 07:35:23 AM
#62
Nice setup  crazydane. Temperatues looking good and also the efficiency across the board. How much is that water cooling solution consuming energy wise?
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October 30, 2017, 06:20:12 AM
#61
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. Tongue


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...


1080ti is the best balanced with the price and powers solution market has now, if you can grab one for $700 it would be basically a stealer!
see for yourself :
1. performance wise one 1080ti is equivalent (rough) for  two 1070 and three 1060
2. 1080ti eats like 250-260W, 1070 - 130-150W, so 2 of them will be 260-300W, 1060 - 100-120W, so 3 of them will be 300-360W - who is the king? 1080ti!
3. the price for 1080ti is $750, for 2x1070 is $850, for 3x1060 is $950. who is the king? 1080ti!



How many sols does one 1080ti do compared to a 2 1070s? I'm interested in the watts and temps of running one 1080i vs 2 1070s

Here's a 1070 rig on top and a 1080ti at the bottom:



And here a water cooled 1080Ti rig being pushed a little harder:

hero member
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October 30, 2017, 05:47:40 AM
#60
Found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymO2VeIA8hc

shows 1070ti is doing 58Mh in eth mining.

is it true ?

Absolutely fake
newbie
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October 30, 2017, 05:43:58 AM
#59
Found this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymO2VeIA8hc

shows 1070ti is doing 58Mh in eth mining .

is it true ?
newbie
Activity: 54
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October 30, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
#58

Memory clocks are same as regular 1070 - and core has no influence on ETH mining. I underclock cores on 1070s to 1000-1200 levels and still get same results (with much lower consumption from the wall). The highest hashrates on ETH are around 32,5 for really good cards (Zotac AMP! - able to sustain +900 (1800eff) on memories), 30-31 on regular cards and 29,5 on unlucky cards (Asus with Micron memories).
So regarding the ETH - I dont see any possibility to get higher hashes on 1070Ti - unless You manage to OC the memories like god.


It seems 1070Ti is not worth it for the ETH. We will wait and see.
jr. member
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October 30, 2017, 05:10:51 AM
#57
to according to you prediction this one will have less Impact on Mining Speed. So stick to 1070 or 1080TI life before, thanks for the Summary Guys.
legendary
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October 29, 2017, 11:02:58 PM
#56
Also possible to pre-order on nvidias website for 449 i belive. (only for us/canada)

What is it that is the determinating factor of the hashrate? It has 8GB mem, CUDA cores close to an 1080, why shouldnt it be as good as a 1080?
Any hardware pro's that can answer?
Memory is a big factor. GDDR5x in the 1080 compared to GDDR5 in the GTX 1070 TI. It should be what makes or breaks the GPU in terms of mining

 Only on the ETH algorithm, nothing else is as picky about memory - but it likely will easily beat the 1070 and MIGHT argue or even beat the 1080ti on ETH mining (the 1070 beats the 1080 on ETH due to that GDDR5X).

 It should fall in just a HAIR under the 1080 and easily beat the 1070 on everything else.

 My pair of Aorus GTX 1080ti cards (the BASE Aorus, not the higher-clocked version) pull about 780 sol/s at 250 watts (100% tdp), +100 core +150 mem, after a fair bit of tweek testing the core and memory settings seem to be optimal for it on ZCash.
 They still pulls 720 at 200 watts TDP (80%) and the "efficiency knee" seems to be somewhere in the 150 watt (620 sol) to 175 watt (680 sol) range.
 One is in my game system running Win7, the other in my experimental B250 Mining Pro riser rig running XUbuntu LINUX - but the stats are the same give or take measurement limits.
 Even pushing, I've never gotten an Aorus to go much over 70C on 80% fan even with a 90F ambient - and the one in my gaming machine has never gone over 66C or so since it's in an air-conditioned room at around 80F ambient in a case with good airflow.

 My Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1080ti pulls close to those numbers, but falls down some on the high end as it overheats faster and can't maintain boost as well - and it runs 3-4C hotter unless I pump the fan up to 90% or so.
 Up side, it's only 8+6 for power connection instead of 8+8 for the Aorus.

 Best I've seen out of a 1070 was around 450 ballpark, some folks have claimed a lot higher but they apparently have had a lot better luck on getting their memory to overclock a lot than I have.


hero member
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October 29, 2017, 09:40:40 PM
#55
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. Tongue


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...

1080ti is the best balanced with the price and powers solution market has now, if you can grab one for $700 it would be basically a stealer!
see for yourself :
1. performance wise one 1080ti is equivalent (rough) for  two 1070 and three 1060
2. 1080ti eats like 250-260W, 1070 - 130-150W, so 2 of them will be 260-300W, 1060 - 100-120W, so 3 of them will be 300-360W - who is the king? 1080ti!
3. the price for 1080ti is $750, for 2x1070 is $850, for 3x1060 is $950. who is the king? 1080ti!

IMHO the 1060 3GB is an awesome bargain if you mine a bunch of algos (not just ETH)... you can get them for $189.99 each at this time. I bought 20 pcs of the EVGA Superclock 1060 for this price recently.

I have a large number of 1060 3 GB (various brands) in my mining farm and I'm very pleased at price / performance / time to pay-off.
newbie
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October 29, 2017, 06:42:12 PM
#54
Ah... nothing really interesting to see here people. 1080Ti is still the king. Tongue


Yes, I love my 1080ti's
But too expensive...


1080ti is the best balanced with the price and powers solution market has now, if you can grab one for $700 it would be basically a stealer!
see for yourself :
1. performance wise one 1080ti is equivalent (rough) for  two 1070 and three 1060
2. 1080ti eats like 250-260W, 1070 - 130-150W, so 2 of them will be 260-300W, 1060 - 100-120W, so 3 of them will be 300-360W - who is the king? 1080ti!
3. the price for 1080ti is $750, for 2x1070 is $850, for 3x1060 is $950. who is the king? 1080ti!



How many sols does one 1080ti do compared to a 2 1070s? I'm interested in the watts and temps of running one 1080i vs 2 1070s
sr. member
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October 29, 2017, 01:48:43 PM
#53
Here in Canada the ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1070 Ti STRIX-GTX1070TI-A8G-GAMING 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 is already sold out at pre order.
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October 29, 2017, 03:17:15 AM
#52
Looks like the the GTX 1070 prices went down a notch in most shops here. The GTX 1070 Ti has basically the old GTX 1070 price. I am tented to pre-order one for testing - the price range is roughly 100 bucks from the cheapest to the most expensive model across manufactures.
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October 28, 2017, 07:09:06 PM
#51
I preordered one EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti DirectX 12 08G-P4-6775-KR : https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487388&cm_re=1070_ti-_-14-487-388-_-Product

There was a 40 CAD bucks difference with the one that has one 8 pin connector, didn't took any chance, took the 2 x 8 pins one. I've chosen evga because the last 8 1060 FTW2+ had all samsung memory.

I think it's worth the shot to at least buy one since we have the preorder price.

Ya the evga is nice b/c it has dual ball bearing fans so they can last longer,  also the one you picked out has a nice beefy heat sink that's larger,  Congrats, I may get this one also,   I got the MSI titanium b/c it has ball bearing fans and a beefy heatsink,  I am unsure about the memory but hopefully it's the good one.

I think you made a great choice and worth the extra $ .   Amazon is another good source to start looking for pre orders.
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