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Topic: [GUIDE] GridSeed GC3355 5 Chip Setup/power/windows/linux/rpi by UnicornHasher - page 26. (Read 365630 times)

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With 10 seeds the raspi runs for days without issues, However when running 20 seeds it will crash around 12 hours.
Anyone have the fix or advice for this?
Running whezzy/scripta/cgminer.

Cgminer seems to use way to many threads/resources for the PI.  CPUminer will run 20-40 on a pi easy.  I've migrated to linux boxes with extra USB host controllers and stuck the Pi's in a drawer.

just don't stick the pi's in an oven - LOL  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin
donator
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It's for the children!
donator
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It's for the children!
Nice try on guessing the problem being USB wolfey2014 but on a Thinkpad with Ubuntu server I have run 20 miners uninterrupted for over 3 days strait.

BTW, the shipping fee (at least to me) from hashra is $150 for 20. Comes out to $157.50 each. Think that is the best price so far until the other guys meet or beat it Cheesy


You realize there are two or three sellers who state they will meet or beat any valid quote?

donator
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It's for the children!
With 10 seeds the raspi runs for days without issues, However when running 20 seeds it will crash around 12 hours.
Anyone have the fix or advice for this?
Running whezzy/scripta/cgminer.

Cgminer seems to use way to many threads/resources for the PI.  CPUminer will run 20-40 on a pi easy.  I've migrated to linux boxes with extra USB host controllers and stuck the Pi's in a drawer.
sr. member
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I'm running 20 gridseeds - no mods - 850 MHZ, rasberry pi and running cpuminer

I have a 24 port hub and the only time I've had a problem is when I tired to compile cgminer for myself - I'm running the compiled one listed here in this thread right now.

I was happy with cpuminer but there's no api and I want to monitor them and my rig from one program
sr. member
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I'm ready to order another 10 gridseeds and I'm ready to buy today - want to buy from someone in the U.S. - who has got the best price?

thanks
legendary
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With 10 seeds the raspi runs for days without issues, However when running 20 seeds it will crash around 12 hours.
Anyone have the fix or advice for this?
Running whezzy/scripta/cgminer.

When you say it crashes, are you talking about the cgminer itself, or your Raspberry Pi?

If it's the Raspberry Pi, you should probably check that you've got the "slub_debug=FP" hack in place. This has been discussed in other places, but to save you searching time, here's what you need to do (if it's not already in place):

sudo nano /boot/cmdline.txt

Add the following code at the end of the first line (on the same line as the other text, DO NOT add new line!)

Code:
slub_debug=FP

Save the file then reboot your Raspberry Pi.

What the above does is basically enable some kernel debug mode on the Raspberry Pi. I have no idea why debug mode prevents the system kernel crash, but there's a lot of anecdotal evidence that it does work. In my case, I couldn't run for more than an hour before my Pi would crash.

I suspect that there's a kernel bug that cgminer is somehow triggering. I don't know if anyone has seriously investigated this, given that most people just want a work around so that they can keep mining reliably. But if you're interested, here's a related thread that I found:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=55370

If the issue is that cgminer is crashing, not your Pi, doesn't it get restarted by the Scripta /etc/rc.local?

I've seen cgminer crash too. I got about 48 hours the last time before it crapped out. I'm using the dtbartle version that I built myself from the git sources, and I've got 10 GridSeed units.

This morning I decided to run cgminer in text only mode under daemontools. I've been running my Dual Miner version of cgminer like that for weeks on another rig and have never seen a crash of either the Pi or cgminer (and I don't have the slub_debug hack enabled on that Raspberry Pi, either). There's a lot to like about daemontools, including logging. And I see no need to have a terminal output in a detached screen process when Scripta does a nicer job of giving me visual miner status.

I have no idea if running cgminer in its default terminal mode under screen is in fact problematic or not. The stability problems might just be in the gc3355 implementation of cgminer. But I like how my other rig is running and it's nice to keep things consistent.

Anyway HTH...


legendary
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Nice try on guessing the problem being USB wolfey2014 but on a Thinkpad with Ubuntu server I have run 20 miners uninterrupted for over 3 days strait.

BTW, the shipping fee (at least to me) from hashra is $150 for 20. Comes out to $157.50 each. Think that is the best price so far until the other guys meet or beat it Cheesy
sr. member
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With 10 seeds the raspi runs for days without issues, However when running 20 seeds it will crash around 12 hours.
Anyone have the fix or advice for this?
Running whezzy/scripta/cgminer.

5 words come to mind..

comm port fifo buffer overload..... they fill up with bits of data that go no where and end up just disappearing into thin air, so the instructions 'port calls' go missing and the system ends up losing it's way, so to speak and quits. It's like losing the instructions on how to do something.

it takes time for them to become overwhelmed to the degree that enough data is lost and the system just spits dummy i.e. loses communication with some, most or all peripherals all together.

I believe that comm ports including USB were not designed for intensive full time two way traffic, so they eventually 'overflow' their buffers bit by bit 'litterally' and eventually clog up and stop functioning,,,to put it in layman's terminology.

Not even high speed ports can handle the traffic for very long before they spit dummy.

I need to learn more about USB technology to figure out what can be done about it.
I think there are high end USB cards for PC's that can handle such traffic as they are made for enterprise type operations like USB hard drive storage racks etc. Anyway, I'm just guessing here mostly.

Aren't there any USB serial communications experts out here?

Perhaps a new thread should be dedicated to this subject so we can all figure it out together.
It needs to be addressed and handled!

That's my 0.000002014 btc Wink
Wolfey2014

Here, I just found this explanation. Makes sense and backs up what I'm saying in slightly different terms..



"The original UART chip used in IBM-PC designs was the 8250. It could store just one received byte while the receiver was busy receiving the next byte. That puts a high demand on the responsiveness of the operating system's serial port driver, responding to the "data received" interrupt. It must be quick enough to read that byte before the receiver overwrites it. Not being quick enough causes an overrun error and irretrievable data loss. High interrupt rates are also detrimental.

That design was improved upon by the 16550 UART chip. It got a larger buffer, the FIFO, giving the OS more time to empty the buffer before an overrun could occur. The serial port driver can program it to generate an interrupt at a particular fill level, thus reducing the interrupt rate as well.

But chips designs have the same kind of problem that software has, the original 16550 had a bug in the FIFO implementation. Fixed in the 16550A.

Problem was, the driver could not tell whether the machine had the buggy version of the 16550. So it provided a property page that lets the user turn the FIFO support off and bypass the bug.

The odds that today you'll have the buggy version are zero. Turning the FIFO off is no longer necessary."

Source: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21164092/role-of-fifo-buffer-for-com-port-in-windows
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With 10 seeds the raspi runs for days without issues, However when running 20 seeds it will crash around 12 hours.
Anyone have the fix or advice for this?
Running whezzy/scripta/cgminer.
sr. member
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Can you guys please keep the hashra and the rest of the stuff away from this thread?

Any word of bfg or cgminer supporting dual mining yet?
sr. member
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HASHRA.COM

GRIDSEED'S ON SALE NOW!
ONLY $150 EACH! Bare bones!
Minimum order is only 20 units.
Unlimited supply available from now on!
Shipped to anywhere in the world via DHL!
NO MIDDLE MEN! Wink
It's SCARFIN time!, fellow miners!
Go get em!

And don't forget to try out their new trialed, tested and proven stable and easy to use mining software - Hashra CONTROLLA @ /support

Wolfey2014

P.S.
If you want your miners' modified to hash stably at 1000MHz+ and those noisy fans to run ultra quiet, let me know via PM and I'll take care of it for you! Wink

What mods? You ask.....look here....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=519112.260


I'll repeat it here as well to have more chance, If maybe Bamsterdam wants to have a group buy for this I would be interested. I can't take 20 lol

Also consider doing UK triangle, that would be awsome for us Europeans
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
HASHRA.COM

GRIDSEED'S ON SALE NOW!
ONLY $150 EACH! Bare bones!
Minimum order is only 20 units.
Unlimited supply available from now on!
Shipped to anywhere in the world via DHL!
NO MIDDLE MEN! Wink
It's SCARFIN time!, fellow miners!
Go get em!

And don't forget to try out their new trialed, tested and proven stable and easy to use mining software - Hashra CONTROLLA @ /support

Wolfey2014

P.S.
If you want your miners' modified to hash stably at 1000MHz+ and those noisy fans to run ultra quiet, let me know via PM and I'll take care of it for you! Wink

What mods? You ask.....look here....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=519112.260
legendary
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NodeMasters
Hi Guys

i have been doing a bit of work on
Minepeon working with Gridseeds
i have a working Image with 1 Gridseed working
i will leave it running for 12 hours
if its stable i will post a link to my dropbox account
and you can download it and have a play

sr. member
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Look Morty magic internet money
I think I will buy directly at gridseed.com. Is this the place where they originally come from? Then this would be the cheapest place to buy them to my logic? If im wrong in something please correct me:)

I know a company that could arrange DHL to pick my delivery up there in china also. What do you need for other equipment ? I will my ict friend look into this as well but if you guys can tell me something that would be great.

And most important question is there a dual mining mode or do you have to chose scrypt or sha?

Thank you for your thoughts  Smiley

If you look up, I have posted their answer, IMHO they are not the cheapest because I have found 1 unit gridseed for sale that cost me 120euros (without import feest that I'll probably have to pay ) I have obtained this price because I changed EUR to BTC profit of discoint price on BTC
and again a 10% rebate from the seller because paying in BTC
PS: this is for a complete set, 1 gridseed, power hub, usb cable

so when I see 158USD for 500MOQ I find this kind of expensive especially that there will be import duties to pay 158usd about 115 euros
+ accessoiries + the import duties etc..

make a good calculation. if in the end you can sell them for under 200 euros, ideal would be around 180€ unit complete, then it is interesting

Sorry i didnt open a new tread(yet) want to ask which company you bought that gridseed?
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Holy Hijack guys!!!!
 I want the best deal too!!!
Make a new thread somewhere else, probably get even better info on pricing.
Lets keep this thread on topic!

-Bobby
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I think I will buy directly at gridseed.com. Is this the place where they originally come from? Then this would be the cheapest place to buy them to my logic? If im wrong in something please correct me:)

I know a company that could arrange DHL to pick my delivery up there in china also. What do you need for other equipment ? I will my ict friend look into this as well but if you guys can tell me something that would be great.

And most important question is there a dual mining mode or do you have to chose scrypt or sha?

Thank you for your thoughts  Smiley

If you look up, I have posted their answer, IMHO they are not the cheapest because I have found 1 unit gridseed for sale that cost me 120euros (without import feest that I'll probably have to pay ) I have obtained this price because I changed EUR to BTC profit of discoint price on BTC
and again a 10% rebate from the seller because paying in BTC
PS: this is for a complete set, 1 gridseed, power hub, usb cable

so when I see 158USD for 500MOQ I find this kind of expensive especially that there will be import duties to pay 158usd about 115 euros
+ accessoiries + the import duties etc..

make a good calculation. if in the end you can sell them for under 200 euros, ideal would be around 180€ unit complete, then it is interesting
sr. member
Activity: 453
Merit: 261
Look Morty magic internet money
I think I will buy directly at gridseed.com. Is this the place where they originally come from? Then this would be the cheapest place to buy them to my logic? If im wrong in something please correct me:)

I know a company that could arrange DHL to pick my delivery up there in china also. What do you need for other equipment ? I will my ict friend look into this as well but if you guys can tell me something that would be great.

And most important question is there a dual mining mode or do you have to chose scrypt or sha?

Thank you for your thoughts  Smiley
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