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Topic: [GUIDE] GridSeed GC3355 5 Chip Setup/power/windows/linux/rpi by UnicornHasher - page 47. (Read 365630 times)

legendary
Activity: 1109
Merit: 1000
Hey all,

This is my first post here. This thread (and a few others) have been really helpful to me getting 24 gridseeds running on windows 8.1. I wanted to say thanks to all contributing. I have also been searching for a decent #gridseed irc. Not much luck so far, the rooms are small, quiet and/or specific to a store that sells gridseeds. So we started #gridseedmining on freenode.net to share info, specs, builds, tips tricks and workarounds. We'll see if it picks up any popularity.

Anyways, thanks again. Hope to see you all in the channel. #gridseedmining FTW!

Im still looking for a way to get Windows to see these devices. I downloaded the recomended cpuminer from page 1, but the devices don't show up in the device manager under windows. Are there any tricks to getting Windows to recognize these as USB devices?
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
Hey all,

This is my first post here. This thread (and a few others) have been really helpful to me getting 24 gridseeds running on windows 8.1. I wanted to say thanks to all contributing. I have also been searching for a decent #gridseed irc. Not much luck so far, the rooms are small, quiet and/or specific to a store that sells gridseeds. So we started #gridseedmining on freenode.net to share info, specs, builds, tips tricks and workarounds. We'll see if it picks up any popularity.

Anyways, thanks again. Hope to see you all in the channel. #gridseedmining FTW!
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
I've got a question regarding hardware errors on a Gridseed device....

I've got 1 miner in particular which seems to throw out way more HW errors than the other 9.  Typically the others may throw out 1 HW error from time to time...but this one averages 1 HW error each 1.5hrs or so.

I've tried the following:

1. Swap USB cable
2. Swap power cable
3. Swap USB port
4. Swaped which PSU its connected to

Regardless of what I do it seems this one miner is destined (or perhaps just a bit defective) and will continue to toss out HW errors.

I'm using freq=800 as it seems to be a balance between keeping 1 one from throwing errors and the other ones from "under" performing because I can't tune each miner individually.

My question is not what could be wrong, because I think this is just a crappy unit...but is it bad to keep using this miner and having it throw out HW errors?  I presume it just means this one miner will likely die well before the others?


The frequency of HW error is too low to worry about. Most likely there is nothing wrong with the unit itself.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
I've tried searching this, but I couldn't quite find this on my own.

What are the power requirements from the USB hub in single mode?
Would a powered USB hub with 500mA per port suffice?

So long as the overall hub power is greater than 100mA per port it shouldn't be an issue per the gridseed spec sheet.

Thank you. I know what to look for now Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 376
Merit: 250
I've got a question regarding hardware errors on a Gridseed device....

I've got 1 miner in particular which seems to throw out way more HW errors than the other 9.  Typically the others may throw out 1 HW error from time to time...but this one averages 1 HW error each 1.5hrs or so.

I've tried the following:

1. Swap USB cable
2. Swap power cable
3. Swap USB port
4. Swaped which PSU its connected to

Regardless of what I do it seems this one miner is destined (or perhaps just a bit defective) and will continue to toss out HW errors.

I'm using freq=800 as it seems to be a balance between keeping 1 one from throwing errors and the other ones from "under" performing because I can't tune each miner individually.

My question is not what could be wrong, because I think this is just a crappy unit...but is it bad to keep using this miner and having it throw out HW errors?  I presume it just means this one miner will likely die well before the others?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)

Just heard the news about the upgraded firmware for the 'exclusive' Lighteningasic's Controller.
Says it solved the problem with miners quitting out of the blue. No more manual intervention.Huh
Where do get one of these miracle Controllers from? I assume Lighteningasic?
Link please?
Tanks

Uhm.  Like I said, schedule a reboot every time one hangs or hourly just like the new controller box...

Rebooting will not fix it.

^^ This... they require a USB power cycle... most reboots never cut power to the device.
It is a crude way of resetting the USB ports. That's all... Unworkable for my needs...
I'm looking into macro's...cheaper and easier to manage and it will do exactly what I want when I want it to do it.
Keep It Simple...eh?
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)

Just heard the news about the upgraded firmware for the 'exclusive' Lighteningasic's Controller.
Says it solved the problem with miners quitting out of the blue. No more manual intervention.Huh
Where do get one of these miracle Controllers from? I assume Lighteningasic?
Link please?
Tanks

Uhm.  Like I said, schedule a reboot every time one hangs or hourly just like the new controller box...

Rebooting will not fix it.

^^ This... they require a USB power cycle... most reboots never cut power to the device.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)

Just heard the news about the upgraded firmware for the 'exclusive' Lighteningasic's Controller.
Says it solved the problem with miners quitting out of the blue. No more manual intervention.Huh
Where do get one of these miracle Controllers from? I assume Lighteningasic?
Link please?
Tanks

Uhm.  Like I said, schedule a reboot every time one hangs or hourly just like the new controller box...

Rebooting will not fix it.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)

Just heard the news about the upgraded firmware for the 'exclusive' Lighteningasic's Controller.
Says it solved the problem with miners quitting out of the blue. No more manual intervention.Huh
Where do get one of these miracle Controllers from? I assume Lighteningasic?
Link please?
Tanks

Uhm.  Like I said, schedule a reboot every time one hangs or hourly just like the new controller box...

How does one set this up? Using what program or macro program?
I'd love to have something to 'monitor' and restart my miners if one or all of them go down at the same time.....
donator
Activity: 686
Merit: 519
It's for the children!
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)

Just heard the news about the upgraded firmware for the 'exclusive' Lighteningasic's Controller.
Says it solved the problem with miners quitting out of the blue. No more manual intervention.Huh
Where do get one of these miracle Controllers from? I assume Lighteningasic?
Link please?
Tanks

Uhm.  Like I said, schedule a reboot every time one hangs or hourly just like the new controller box...
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)

Just heard the news about the upgraded firmware for the 'exclusive' Lighteningasic's Controller.
Says it solved the problem with miners quitting out of the blue. No more manual intervention.Huh
Where do get one of these miracle Controllers from? I assume Lighteningasic?
Link please?
Tanks
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)

Sounds legit... mine at 750/750 seem to be the same as any other combo starting sha at 750... changing to 800 causes nonce errors again in mine... shame.

GS needs to make a firmware update for all of these...
donator
Activity: 686
Merit: 519
It's for the children!
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014

Placebo Smiley  Running at separate clocks will make you feel better...   It could also cure cancer.

(This statement has not been evaluated by the FDA)
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


They simply, can not run two different frequencies at the same time.
One is simply over riding the other - evidently un-noticeably.
There is only 1 clock generator and bus for all chips on the card so.....

Wolfey2014
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
The PSU is my own home made 40 Amp rectified and regulated 13.8VDC power supply. Runs flawlessly and has full protections incorporated as well.

HUB is a 13 port Inland USB 2.0 480Mbps unit powered by 2.5 Amp switching wall wart.

You know I'm going to ask if you can try a retail power supply right?

You don't get any specific errors or indicators in your even viewer?

I am using the power brick, with mine plugged directly into my PC USB 2.0 and I also suffer these same hang ups for no reason... oddly enough never during the day while I am at this PC... only while I sleep. I feel your pain Wolfey.

I am on Win 7 Ult 64 using cgminer for Sha and cpuminer to dual mine scrypt.

Got it. Thanks for your sympathy  Embarrassed
Yep, lots of us are dealing with it. At least I've managed to mitigate the problem somewhat.
I'll either figure this out and post the fix or find a way to automatically restart them when they do decide they want to take a break! Frikkin machines! DO WTF YOU ARE TOLD!!!!!!  Angry

Wolfey2014
donator
Activity: 686
Merit: 519
It's for the children!
Schedule a reboot every hour just like asiabtc did with their v2 controller firmware Smiley

Seriously though I wonder if it is a windows issue of some sort with the driver and the gridseeds?

I won't have my next batch until mid-week where I can use the same platform for testing. 

You could http://www.amazon.com/WeMo-Electronics-Anywhere-Automation-Smartphones/dp/B00EOEDJ9W/ref=pd_sim_e_13?ie=UTF8&refRID=1BR63Q98NFM7F1D1QRBN autorestart the power supply when they fail.  You'd have to build your macro though.  If I didn't slander someone earlier for saying to convert to raspi I might say the same thing Smiley

Dude! You're kidding, right?

Which part?
donator
Activity: 686
Merit: 519
It's for the children!
I currently have Sha at 750 ant scrypt at 850.

I think one chip can't work on two different freq.
As I remember for Scrypt core used part of BTC core, so maybe these two cores can't work on different freqs.
(but not sure)
Maybe for whole chip used first BTC freq. and second is ignored..

Can somebody confirm is it true or not ?


I've heard more success running the BTC core at a different freq than the LTC core.  I don't know if it's technically accurate or if it does anything.  At a minimum it has a positive placebo effect in dual mode Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
The PSU is my own home made 40 Amp rectified and regulated 13.8VDC power supply. Runs flawlessly and has full protections incorporated as well.

HUB is a 13 port Inland USB 2.0 480Mbps unit powered by 2.5 Amp switching wall wart.

You know I'm going to ask if you can try a retail power supply right?

You don't get any specific errors or indicators in your even viewer?

Right, you just had to!  Cheesy
Believe me, there is nothing wrong with my psu. It is a commercial grade unit. But, I forgive you.  Grin

Nope, no specific indicators or errors. Just quits. Not sure why, obviously. I've tried reducing FIFO's, which seemed to help and it did not adversely effect hashing rates at all. My 6 miners are averaging over 2200 KHs, server side.
I have disabled all power saving options so nothing gets poled or turned off by accident.
It's weird that all 6 of them quit outputting completed work at the same time.
Indicates USB comm port failure at the hub's input from the PC's USB port.
I'm getting tired of farting around with it.

I'd love to have a macro that detects and resets the comm ports any time this happens.
Any suggestions?

I do not believe converting over to another program like cgminer or bfgminer will make any difference, based on everything I've been reading about them.
It's a bug that every user has no matter the time between resterts. It's a chronic problem!

Wolfey2014

Schedule a reboot every hour just like asiabtc did with their v2 controller firmware Smiley

Seriously though I wonder if it is a windows issue of some sort with the driver and the gridseeds?

I won't have my next batch until mid-week where I can use the same platform for testing. 

You could http://www.amazon.com/WeMo-Electronics-Anywhere-Automation-Smartphones/dp/B00EOEDJ9W/ref=pd_sim_e_13?ie=UTF8&refRID=1BR63Q98NFM7F1D1QRBN autorestart the power supply when they fail.  You'd have to build your macro though.  If I didn't slander someone earlier for saying to convert to raspi I might say the same thing Smiley

Dude! You're kidding, right?
legendary
Activity: 1109
Merit: 1000
I was wondering if anyone can give me a pointer.  I have 4 gpus and 2 gridseeds.  I run 2 seperate instances of cgminer for them one for gpus and obviously one for the gridseeds.  I got annoyed about this so I decided to compile cgminer with gridseed and gpu support.  If I run my compiled cgminer without the gridseeds, everything is fine the gpus mine perfectly, or vice versa the gridseeds mine fine on it.  However when I try to have all devices mine through it.  The GPUS get tons of HW errors and the gridseeds mine fine.  I put the same clock settings and everything as I normally would.  Somehow cgminer doesnt like having them all together.  Is there something I need to put in my conf file or is it simply not possible to run the gridseeds and gpus under one instance of cgminer.  Any help is appreciated.

I got a set of GS yesterday. I tried to plug them into the USB hub then into a Windows box running cgminer.
However, cgminer doesn't see these GS devices. Can someone point me to whatever thread talks about how to get cgminer to recognize the GS devices?
Thanks

It's on the first page under the windows section.  You need to change the driver for the gridseed.

I should be taking new screenshots next week for that section as well.
Thanks, found it.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
The PSU is my own home made 40 Amp rectified and regulated 13.8VDC power supply. Runs flawlessly and has full protections incorporated as well.

HUB is a 13 port Inland USB 2.0 480Mbps unit powered by 2.5 Amp switching wall wart.

You know I'm going to ask if you can try a retail power supply right?

You don't get any specific errors or indicators in your even viewer?

I am using the power brick, with mine plugged directly into my PC USB 2.0 and I also suffer these same hang ups for no reason... oddly enough never during the day while I am at this PC... only while I sleep. I feel your pain Wolfey.

I am on Win 7 Ult 64 using cgminer for Sha and cpuminer to dual mine scrypt.

That's two win7x64 with the same issue, anyone else?

Actually, my Win 7 is 32 bit.... Wink
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