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Topic: [GUIDE] GridSeed GC3355 5 Chip Setup/power/windows/linux/rpi by UnicornHasher - page 54. (Read 365630 times)

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It's positive center. Use a multimeter to check your wiring, don't rely on colors.

+12V is center. Got it. Good point, don't rely on colors. I know they'll buy and use whatever. I can definitely meter out the cable before wiring it up.

Thank you suchmoon.
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So everytime I hook more than 100 gridseed 5-chip devices to ubuntu 12.04 using the forked cgminer 3.72 (for gridseed) I get errors in syslog about usb.

Some look like this: err (28) No space left on device usb

Others look like this: unable to enumerate USB device on port

I tried another PCI-e usb card and could only get 22 on the extra usb card.

Is there some type of bus limit I can increase to get past 100?

Thanks for any help!
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The little black box on top of the gridseeds connecting all the white cables on the left and all the red on the right, that's what I need.
Can anyone post a link to that?
Muchos gracias

Bus Bar, or Power Distribution Board.
http://www.jimsmodeltrains.com/servlet/-strse-571/10-Pole-Power-Distribution/Detail
Note: This is NOT rated for the power you need. It is an example of what you are looking for.
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I hope someone can help, so I have a problem with cgminer that I cannot find the answer to anywhere.  I want to install two versions of cgminer on my raspberry pi, one for my dualminer usb sticks, and one for the gridseed 5 chips.  So the problem is that whenever I compile a different version of cgminer, the other version stops working.  If I open one version, run the miners, then compile the second and run that version, everything is fine.  But when I have to stop or reboot cgminer for either, only the latest version of cgminer that I compiled works?  It is probably something dumb that I am missing that is causing the problem but I can not find the answer anywhere.

Any ideas?

Try running them as different users?

Cgminer makes a ~/.cgminer directory which does something while cgminer is running.


Is there anyway to designate a different folder for cgminer so they do not screw each others settings up

Use
cgminer -c /path/to/config.file
to specify the correct file for each cgminer.

In the config file use
"usb": "1:1,1:2,..."
to specify usb devices to use for each cgminer.

Use
cgminer -n --usb-list
to see the device numbers you should use (Bus 1 Device 6 means you'll add 1:6 to the config file)



So if anyone else is having this problem trying to run different versions of cgminer, I have figured out the solution to the problem.  How I went about it was changing the name of cgminer in the /usr/local/bin directory.

Code:
chmod 777 /usr/local/bin
Then change one of the cgminer files name, I named one cgminer1, then in your .sh file instead of the first line saying cgminer, change it to whatever name you gave the file in that directory.
Code:
cgminer1 --scrypt -o URL -u USER -p PASS
sr. member
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miaviator set me straight with powering my gridseeds with one CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200

and cables ordered from startech

I'll be able to power a whole bunch of these little buggers... Smiley


Do you have the link for the cables on startech site Cheesy

Found it but from Amazon directly (free 2 day shipping). Just getting the PCIe 6 pin extensions and a bunch of barrel plug adapters.

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-Express-Extension-PCIEPOWEXT/dp/B004ZMYBAE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394804502&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058RLD9C/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1


CX600 only has two PCIe connectors, so can power 6 gridseeds there

That means I need to get some molex connectors too

http://www.amazon.com/VCOM-12-Inch-VC-POW8EXT-Extension-CE314/dp/B00GNTTR9C/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394732611&sr=1-15


Question: I know CX600 can run scrypt only safely. What about SHA only as well combined mode (pushing my luck Smiley )?

How many gridseeds?

A total of 10. I know I really should use RM1000 or AX1200 (have both, but they are running me ants :p)

Don't do dual mode or btc mode with 10 on a  600w supply: look at  Part 6: Power Usage & Temps https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5448817



Thanks, going scrypt only for now...
donator
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It's for the children!
The little black box on top of the gridseeds connecting all the white cables on the left and all the red on the right, that's what I need.
Can anyone post a link to that?
Muchos gracias

PM bobby35ny
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2U rackmount chassis on sale at newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219022



High Def Photo: http://i.imgur.com/ShUX1sD.jpg

bobby35ny is running 10 gridseeds with the fans removed in these cases as pictured.  *this case won't fit a standard atx PSU.

I run my 10 in a rosewill 4U. 

The little black box on top of the gridseeds connecting all the white cables on the left and all the red on the right, that's what I need.
Can anyone post a link to that?
Muchos gracias
legendary
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https://bpip.org

So the outside of the plug should be connected to the white cable, which in turn should be connected to the -V of the powersupply

so normally putting one probe on the outside (sleeve of the connector) and the other at the end of the white cable gives me a reading on resistance
putting one probe on the inside of the connector and the other at the end of the white cable gives no reading
?

If "no reading" is zero ohms, it's a short, in other words your "inside of the connector" is connected to the white wire. That's probably not what you want.

To test it touch the multimeter probes together, you should get 0 ohms (or very close to 0), that's what you are looking for in your wiring.

Some multimeters have continuity mode, which basically is a beeper/buzzer for exactly this purpose. Use that if you have it.
donator
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It's for the children!
can anyone tell me what I could use to connect 8 Gridseeds to 1 connection of the powersupply
it's the questionmark on the diagram

The ? is a "bus bar". Something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-DualBus-Terminal/dp/B000K2K6M0
The wire from the PSU to the bar should be heavy guage (low number, 12 should work, 14 might) to carry all the current.

Or, you can use a heavy gauge wire to the "?", and join all the wires together (soldier them). If the joint is getting too big, then daisy chain off the heavy gauge wire (connect two pieces of heavy gauge wire and, say 3 gridseed wires, at one connection, then repeat - with one end of the heavy gauge wire going to the PSU (or prior joint), and the other end of the wire to create a new joint. Kind of like how a PSU puts 3 molex connectors on one wire.

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does it matter that the load is not spread completely even? 9 gridseeds / 9 gridseeds / 8 gridseeds ?

9/9/8 is close enough for balance.

bobby is using a similar bus bar to do the same thing:


2U rackmount chassis on sale at newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219022



High Def Photo: http://i.imgur.com/ShUX1sD.jpg

bobby35ny is running 10 gridseeds with the fans removed in these cases as pictured.  *this case won't fit a standard atx PSU.

I run my 10 in a rosewill 4U. 
sr. member
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I guess with my 1,200 watt unit I should be ok then.

as long as I don't overload any of the 6 PCEI plugs
donator
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It's for the children!
miaviator set me straight with powering my gridseeds with one CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200

and cables ordered from startech

I'll be able to power a whole bunch of these little buggers... Smiley


Do you have the link for the cables on startech site Cheesy

Found it but from Amazon directly (free 2 day shipping). Just getting the PCIe 6 pin extensions and a bunch of barrel plug adapters.

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-Express-Extension-PCIEPOWEXT/dp/B004ZMYBAE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394804502&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058RLD9C/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1


CX600 only has two PCIe connectors, so can power 6 gridseeds there

That means I need to get some molex connectors too

http://www.amazon.com/VCOM-12-Inch-VC-POW8EXT-Extension-CE314/dp/B00GNTTR9C/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394732611&sr=1-15


Question: I know CX600 can run scrypt only safely. What about SHA only as well combined mode (pushing my luck Smiley )?

How many gridseeds?

A total of 10. I know I really should use RM1000 or AX1200 (have both, but they are running me ants :p)

Don't do dual mode or btc mode with 10 on a  600w supply: look at  Part 6: Power Usage & Temps https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5448817

full member
Activity: 126
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So the outside of the plug should be connected to the white cable, which in turn should be connected to the -V of the powersupply

so normally putting one probe on the outside (sleeve of the connector) and the other at the end of the white cable gives me a reading on resistance
putting one probe on the inside of the connector and the other at the end of the white cable gives no reading
?

Technically it should be "ground", not "-v". There is such a thing as negative voltage. But, if there are only two options: "+" and "-", then "-" is correct.

You are testing for "continuity". So, when you say "no reading", you have to be more specific. If the probes are touching nothing, then what is the "reading". That should also be "no reading", or no "continuity". If you touch the inside (which should be +) to the white (which should be ground), and you get no change to the reading, then that means there is no continuity, or that they are not connected, which is what you want.

If what you mean by "no reading" is that you are getting zero ohms, then that means there is continuity, and that is what you do not want.

I test continuity first - to make sure the cable is constructed the way I think it should be (the component is correct). Then I attach it to the PSU (but not the miner), and test voltage at the plug. That confirms the "system" is correct (did not wire it incorrectly to the PSU).
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It's for the children!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2X-bj_TJfWQZk81Y3h1Ukk1WHc/edit?usp=sharing

can anyone tell me what I could use to connect 8 Gridseeds to 1 connection of the powersupply
it's the questionmark on the diagram

does it matter that the load is not spread completely even? 9 gridseeds / 9 gridseeds / 8 gridseeds ?

Also: if any stupidity is found in that diagram, please let me know  Undecided

thanks

We still haven't had anyone test these to see if they burn up or not: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EAHJAG/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AXGABATFHDOZ

EDIT: THESE WILL BURN FIRE BAD IN DUAL MODE.
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can anyone tell me what I could use to connect 8 Gridseeds to 1 connection of the powersupply
it's the questionmark on the diagram

The ? is a "bus bar". Something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-DualBus-Terminal/dp/B000K2K6M0
The wire from the PSU to the bar should be heavy guage (low number, 12 should work, 14 might) to carry all the current.

Or, you can use a heavy gauge wire to the "?", and join all the wires together (soldier them). If the joint is getting too big, then daisy chain off the heavy gauge wire (connect two pieces of heavy gauge wire and, say 3 gridseed wires, at one connection, then repeat - with one end of the heavy gauge wire going to the PSU (or prior joint), and the other end of the wire to create a new joint. Kind of like how a PSU puts 3 molex connectors on one wire.

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does it matter that the load is not spread completely even? 9 gridseeds / 9 gridseeds / 8 gridseeds ?

9/9/8 is close enough for balance.

newbie
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how can you check polarity of a cable with a multimeter?

check for resistance in the wire and connector.  Hold one probe on the sleeve of the connector (I assume you are talking about DC plugs) and then touch the other probe to the ends of the cables.  The one that registers resistance is your ground or (-) wire.

So the outside of the plug should be connected to the white cable, which in turn should be connected to the -V of the powersupply

so normally putting one probe on the outside (sleeve of the connector) and the other at the end of the white cable gives me a reading on resistance
putting one probe on the inside of the connector and the other at the end of the white cable gives no reading
?
newbie
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Merit: 0
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2X-bj_TJfWQZk81Y3h1Ukk1WHc/edit?usp=sharing

can anyone tell me what I could use to connect 8 Gridseeds to 1 connection of the powersupply
it's the questionmark on the diagram

does it matter that the load is not spread completely even? 9 gridseeds / 9 gridseeds / 8 gridseeds ?

Also: if any stupidity is found in that diagram, please let me know  Undecided

thanks
donator
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It's for the children!
So I ordered my first few Gridseeds. I should have them next week. Hey, I'm a bit unclear on the power setup. The picture shows a red wire and a white wire on the 5.5mm barrel power connectors. Can anyone tell me for sure which is +12v?

The third post in:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=9mntqq2u9f1g725pkl01nsv236&topic=494625.msg5448809#msg5448809

Seems to say it's red/center (which I would call "tip" on these connectors). Can anyone confirm? I do not want to blow up a $220+ device through stupidity.

It's positive center. Use a multimeter to check your wiring, don't rely on colors.

Yeah, red/white and power is only applicable to the cables from asiabtc/lightening asic.  I should edit that.
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miaviator set me straight with powering my gridseeds with one CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200

and cables ordered from startech

I'll be able to power a whole bunch of these little buggers... Smiley


Do you have the link for the cables on startech site Cheesy

Found it but from Amazon directly (free 2 day shipping). Just getting the PCIe 6 pin extensions and a bunch of barrel plug adapters.

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-Express-Extension-PCIEPOWEXT/dp/B004ZMYBAE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394804502&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058RLD9C/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1


CX600 only has two PCIe connectors, so can power 6 gridseeds there

That means I need to get some molex connectors too

http://www.amazon.com/VCOM-12-Inch-VC-POW8EXT-Extension-CE314/dp/B00GNTTR9C/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394732611&sr=1-15


Question: I know CX600 can run scrypt only safely. What about SHA only as well combined mode (pushing my luck Smiley )?

How many gridseeds?

A total of 10. I know I really should use RM1000 or AX1200 (have both, but they are running me ants :p)
donator
Activity: 686
Merit: 519
It's for the children!
miaviator set me straight with powering my gridseeds with one CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200

and cables ordered from startech

I'll be able to power a whole bunch of these little buggers... Smiley


Do you have the link for the cables on startech site Cheesy

Found it but from Amazon directly (free 2 day shipping). Just getting the PCIe 6 pin extensions and a bunch of barrel plug adapters.

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-Express-Extension-PCIEPOWEXT/dp/B004ZMYBAE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394804502&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058RLD9C/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1


CX600 only has two PCIe connectors, so can power 6 gridseeds there

That means I need to get some molex connectors too

http://www.amazon.com/VCOM-12-Inch-VC-POW8EXT-Extension-CE314/dp/B00GNTTR9C/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394732611&sr=1-15


Question: I know CX600 can run scrypt only safely. What about SHA only as well combined mode (pushing my luck Smiley )?

How many gridseeds?
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Bitcoin Evengelist
miaviator set me straight with powering my gridseeds with one CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200

and cables ordered from startech

I'll be able to power a whole bunch of these little buggers... Smiley


Do you have the link for the cables on startech site Cheesy

Found it but from Amazon directly (free 2 day shipping). Just getting the PCIe 6 pin extensions and a bunch of barrel plug adapters.

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-Express-Extension-PCIEPOWEXT/dp/B004ZMYBAE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394804502&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058RLD9C/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1


CX600 only has two PCIe connectors, so can power 6 gridseeds there

That means I need to get some molex connectors too

http://www.amazon.com/VCOM-12-Inch-VC-POW8EXT-Extension-CE314/dp/B00GNTTR9C/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1394732611&sr=1-15


Question: I know CX600 can run scrypt only safely. What about SHA only as well combined mode (pushing my luck Smiley )?
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