Gunman in Resorts World Manila - page 2.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 10, 2017, 11:16:46 PM

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Quote from: orions.belt19 on June 10, 2017, 09:59:36 AM

I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

Its was not a terrorist act at all. It's just a coincidence that it happened after the siege in Marawi. Yeah, a lot of civilians died because of suffocation, Resort Worlds permit has been cancelled already by the Pagcor. Insider Information: I have a nephew who now works with Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation)and he say's that it released a memo telling all casino's operated should tighten their security because of what happened to Marawi. But I guess RW didn't heed the call. If they just have tightened their security, lives should not have been lost in this tragedy. And speaking of the chips, it will be no used to say to steal them, why? because the casino will change it anyway, and the chips that have been stolen should be of no used.

Right now, it seems like the attacker was not connected to any of the major terrorist organizations. But some questions still remain unanswered. How did this guy managed to get a machine gun? Are guns so easily available in the Philippines?

It's now certain that the gunman is just a guy that went nuts after losing a big amount. Linking him to any terror group like isis has been put out of the question and it seems obvious that there are no intentions to kill people. There have been released security videos that can clearly give anyone an idea of what really happened. And the guy apparently lose millions in a casino so he may have been well-off prior to that for him to be able to purchase a high powered fire arm.

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Quote from: NoNetwork on June 03, 2017, 02:31:36 AM

Quote from: seojp on June 03, 2017, 02:15:06 AM

I think its not ISIS because if it is ISIS then he hostage the civilian. Its like the gunmen has lost ing the gambling that is why He that terrible thing in his life. I guess Philippines must be vigilant and security in the philippines must be on tight to avoid that it is not happening again.

These will be a lesson to all kind of public buildings and also for Filipinos, including me. Security's job is to secure an area, to surpress these kinds of incidents to happen, but from what happened yesterday, they didn't do that.

Quote from: zedsacs on June 03, 2017, 01:52:44 AM

Praying for those who died. That gunman is not yet known but confirmed as not a Filipino. The media said that this guy is in high with alcohol. Many of the people in second floor had a stampede. And this person burned the whole second floor and many of the people died because of sufocation.

The news and reports did not include the guy being drunk, they just had a conclusion based on some witnesses that the guy suffer from Mental disorder.

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Philippines now experineced many destroyer. I hope as soon as possible all bad people and terorist die because many innocent people die because of them. I see the news that the resort world manila have many killed people. I hope philippines will go backa again into the peace country. I dont know why those people are still killing people . What did they get if they do this? Dont have.

Islamic terrorism is affecting every nook and corner of the world. No one is safe from this terror. Non-Muslims need to unite against this common enemy. It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian, or a Hindu, or a Buddhist. If we don't unite, then this catastrophe will destroy all of us.

There are new updates saying that the terrorist confirmed the attack, we still don't know the truth,but all we know is these guy did not shoot people, did not take any hostages, stole some chips and commits suicide.

The Philippine National Police believed it was not the ISIS responsible for the attack. They believed that the gunman has a psychological issue. He is a former employee of Resorts World Manila and has a serious gambling addiction, but still there are hearings and investigation about the crime. So we better watch for more details so we can be more prepare for our safety.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 10, 2017, 08:47:03 PM

Quote from: orions.belt19 on June 10, 2017, 09:59:36 AM

I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

Its was not a terrorist act at all. It's just a coincidence that it happened after the siege in Marawi. Yeah, a lot of civilians died because of suffocation, Resort Worlds permit has been cancelled already by the Pagcor. Insider Information: I have a nephew who now works with Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation)and he say's that it released a memo telling all casino's operated should tighten their security because of what happened to Marawi. But I guess RW didn't heed the call. If they just have tightened their security, lives should not have been lost in this tragedy. And speaking of the chips, it will be no used to say to steal them, why? because the casino will change it anyway, and the chips that have been stolen should be of no used.

Right now, it seems like the attacker was not connected to any of the major terrorist organizations. But some questions still remain unanswered. How did this guy managed to get a machine gun? Are guns so easily available in the Philippines?

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Quote from: orions.belt19 on June 10, 2017, 09:59:36 AM

I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

Its was not a terrorist act at all. It's just a coincidence that it happened after the siege in Marawi. Yeah, a lot of civilians died because of suffocation, Resort Worlds permit has been cancelled already by the Pagcor. Insider Information: I have a nephew who now works with Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation)and he say's that it released a memo telling all casino's operated should tighten their security because of what happened to Marawi. But I guess RW didn't heed the call. If they just have tightened their security, lives should not have been lost in this tragedy. And speaking of the chips, it will be no used to say to steal them, why? because the casino will change it anyway, and the chips that have been stolen should be of no used.

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I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

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Quote from: thymeow on June 08, 2017, 10:36:05 PM

Do not believe everything that ISIS claim, they just want to spread terror and power - the man has become a lunatic, he got so addicted with gambling his family decided to talk to the casinos and banned him from playing. Man went full nuts and started to cause chaos. Damn look what being addictive in gambling can lead you.

It was really quite funny how ISIS was quick to jump into the situation taking responsibility for what was happening even before any legitimate information was out. Goes to show that they would do anything just to be feared even stooping down to the pathetic level of acknowledging things not even connected to them. They didn't release any statements anymore when it was proven that it was a lone casino addict gone mad.

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Quote from: NoNetwork on June 07, 2017, 04:38:18 AM

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Quote from: ppaul15 on June 06, 2017, 06:24:19 PM

when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

All the casinos are like that. There will be only one small entrance to the main hall, and even entry to that door will be strictly monitored and regulated. It is mostly for safety purposes, and to prevent robberies.

Wow, so the casinos are just monitoring strictly their entrances and exits when someone yells "ISIS is attacking?", that is nonsense. In fact even they are monitoring the entrance, the Gunman entered the buildih and started these incident where many senseless death happened.

Yes. The one that guard the entrance has no gun. He/She was just there to monitor the people entering. So when she saw the gunman she just ran. But want I don't understand is that why is the casino security was too late to stop the gunman? That's why I still believed that RW is liable to this accidents. And I think the victim's relatives are going to file a class suit against the casino. The many deaths should have prevented, if they are quick to react.

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Do not believe everything that ISIS claim, they just want to spread terror and power - the man has become a lunatic, he got so addicted with gambling his family decided to talk to the casinos and banned him from playing. Man went full nuts and started to cause chaos. Damn look what being addictive in gambling can lead you.

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Quote from: NoNetwork on June 07, 2017, 04:38:18 AM

Wow, so the casinos are just monitoring strictly their entrances and exits when someone yells "ISIS is attacking?", that is nonsense. In fact even they are monitoring the entrance, the Gunman entered the buildih and started these incident where many senseless death happened.

I don't think that they have any choice. The casino chips can be worth up to tens of thousands of USD. What happens if someone creates a melee, and flees with a few dozen casino chips? That is why the entrance and exit is under tight control and monitoring.

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Quote from: ppaul15 on June 06, 2017, 06:24:19 PM

when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

So much for the "be calm every emergency situation". Most Filipinos are scared of such thing, attacks, bombings even killings and crimes. Philippines is a peaceful country to begin with, they don't like people being killed, that is the reasin they panicked. Security is the reason why these incident happen, and we can blame the building for having a closed room without exits.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 06, 2017, 09:14:42 PM

Quote from: ppaul15 on June 06, 2017, 06:24:19 PM

when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

All the casinos are like that. There will be only one small entrance to the main hall, and even entry to that door will be strictly monitored and regulated. It is mostly for safety purposes, and to prevent robberies.

Wow, so the casinos are just monitoring strictly their entrances and exits when someone yells "ISIS is attacking?", that is nonsense. In fact even they are monitoring the entrance, the Gunman entered the buildih and started these incident where many senseless death happened.

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Quote from: ppaul15 on June 06, 2017, 06:24:19 PM

when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

All the casinos are like that. There will be only one small entrance to the main hall, and even entry to that door will be strictly monitored and regulated. It is mostly for safety purposes, and to prevent robberies.

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Quote from: ppaul15 on June 06, 2017, 06:24:19 PM

when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

That is the reason why our President, President Rodrigo Duterte ask the RWM, why there are no exits especially on VIP rooms where most of the people died. And we all know how presumptuous Filipino is, and that is the reason for more panic. We can't literally calm down in these kind of situations, the reason why there are stampedes.

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when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

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Quote from: Xester on June 06, 2017, 09:09:09 AM

Quote from: Tuyok on June 06, 2017, 04:22:05 AM

People are stupid sometimes, just because Mindanao is under martial law, they think that the gunman in the resorts world incident is a member of ISIS. Please, for nth time, he is not a terrorist , he is just an addict of gambling according to his mother.

People just want to link every crimes to the terrorist group ISIS or everything like that be linked to terrorist. Yes maybe because of what is happening right now in Mindanao. Even the local news associated this act as made by terrorist. I do not know maybe just to frighten people and make a bad image to the other country. They want to blame the government maybe for negligence. But as you said, it was purely done by a gambling addict.

We can't blame them, from what is happening here in the Philippines, they will be really saying those things. Me, as a Filipino, after hearing it for the first time, I thought it is a terrorist attack, but I did not rant about it, I just watch and knew that it is not a terrorist attack based on the Police. Let other people say what they want to, because no matter what they've said, the officers will be the one investigating the incident not them.

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Quote from: Tuyok on June 06, 2017, 04:22:05 AM

People are stupid sometimes, just because Mindanao is under martial law, they think that the gunman in the resorts world incident is a member of ISIS. Please, for nth time, he is not a terrorist , he is just an addict of gambling according to his mother.

People just want to link every crimes to the terrorist group ISIS or everything like that be linked to terrorist. Yes maybe because of what is happening right now in Mindanao. Even the local news associated this act as made by terrorist. I do not know maybe just to frighten people and make a bad image to the other country. They want to blame the government maybe for negligence. But as you said, it was purely done by a gambling addict.

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People are stupid sometimes, just because Mindanao is under martial law, they think that the gunman in the resorts world incident is a member of ISIS. Please, for nth time, he is not a terrorist , he is just an addict of gambling according to his mother.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on June 06, 2017, 03:13:16 AM

Quote from: NoNetwork on June 02, 2017, 06:30:29 AM

A guy equipped with a "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Condolences to the families of those who died. I agree. I don't see any sense in what the gunman did. News say that the gunman may be a unhinged and is in a big debt because of casino addiction. Obviously this is not connected to ISIS contrary to what they say. This is the work of a desperate man who went crazy because of money and greed.

Precisely.

This is what moral vacuum does to you - make you a victim of various addictions. When the man lost his false god in form of money, his life had ended. We can only speculate, if the outcome could be different from the moment he decided to fill hole in his heart with paper.

Ultimately, every man is responsible for his own choices. Good and bad.

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Quote from: 8ouch on June 06, 2017, 03:17:15 AM

Quote from: NoNetwork on June 02, 2017, 06:30:29 AM

A guy equipped with a "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

A crazy guy, after giving fear to the gamblers there in the end he did suicide. That's what I'm saying, don't take gambling literally.

He is not crazy, he is just depressed on what is happening in his life. Having a big debt, losing your insurance and stuffs, that is really so depressing. We can't blame the casino or gambling, they are not the main reason why he is addicted to it, it is himself that brought his self to these. I think he is not ready to consequences that he will face because of his addiction.

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Quote from: NoNetwork on June 02, 2017, 06:30:29 AM

A guy equipped with a "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

A crazy guy, after giving fear to the gamblers there in the end he did suicide. That's what I'm saying, don't take gambling literally.

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