Topic: Gunman in Resorts World Manila - page 3. (Read 4082 times)

Condolences to the families of those who died. I agree. I don't see any sense in what the gunman did. News say that the gunman may be a unhinged and is in a big debt because of casino addiction. Obviously this is not connected to ISIS contrary to what they say. This is the work of a desperate man who went crazy because of money and greed.

And yeah, the gunman entered the building walking straight inside, he did not walk through the Metal detectors, if you ask me, he just entered like a boss, the security tried to stop the guy but she can't because she don't have a gun, then run to the casino where he sees another SG, but these SG didn't shoot because there are a lot of people around them. And that time, he started to run to the casino,burn the tables and steal chips.

If you are not familiar with RW Manila, then before you can enter, its still a long walk before the actual casino entrance. I haven't seen the video's yet. But If I'm assuming he used the main entrance, there are already security personnel there, frisking you checking your bags and even a metal detectors before you can finally go to the casino proper. Even if you used the second floor entrance, security was there. If they were able to frisk him and see that he has a gun, then the casualties can be lessen I think. I don't know if this is the worst casino attack on recorded history. Main thing though is that the security in front don't have guns. All high powered personnel was always in the outside. Its a casino dude, a lot of cameras, and those watching eye in the sky should have caught him and reported to the police and to the security personnel that have high powered guns. That is a casino for Christ sake, securities should be tighter than a bank. Again, I haven't see the footage yet but I think RW is to blame here.

I am very much impressed with what's happening in the Philippines. When I look on TV or on the Internet, What a good resort and tourism are simply fascinating. I always wanted to go and she's there. And now I do not even know how or what to think about this country. I hope that all these tragic events will soon cease.

Some casinos think that they don't need any security as people will be thinking that there'll be a heavy security and in that deception some cranked up guys do this kind of shi*. It's horrific to watch even the CCTV footages. May God give peace to all the Innocents who died in this tragic incidents and I hope it'll not affect the tourism of Philippines.

Yes that is what I am also thinking, why they do not have exits.  Why did the security guard let the guy to justnpass like that without taking actions or immediately reporting it to the police or to the security department.  Why many casualties considering that the accused did not shoot any of the people inside the casino.  All fingers points to the management of the Resorts world.  They lack everything.  One more reason was that, no one ushers the people inside so no one knew the exits.  They just broke the window and do just anything to escape.  The Rw management should answer all of that.

It is really senseless, and another one is how the gunman entered the building, a mews update was aired about these incident and the gunman just walked in the building, the Security Guard can't stop the gunman, there are even SGs that seen him but did not take action because many people are around that may be wounded or shot from what he will do. The question now is why the building has no good exits, from the deaths of the civilians, all of them died because of suffocation meaning they have no way to out and staying on one place.

Nonetwork, the killing was very senseless! If it not and Isis attack then what will influence a man to go and curse the death of many people like this. We look at terrorist attacks as Islamic extremist and retaliation but what is the aim of this guy for Christ sake.

Yes, that is right, this case is closed, but it will be a forever lesson to securities and even employees working on buildings and casinos, we must be really alert at all times. Money can't fix the pain that these incident has made, they need more than their money, money can't pay one's precious life.

Im from the Philippines,  and I heard and watch almost all of the videos and cctv footage of this. At the same I used to play at Resorts World Manila as well. The place is literaly full of fun and you can feel how free is the country of the Philippines. Until this gunman came, and break all the happiness and fun at Resorts World. This violent act doesnt seem a terorist act but its a suicidal act in which he wants to scared people to death. Like he wants someone to be with him on his last hour in the world. Lets just pray for the souls of the innocent who died in the incident and I hope every casino should provide a better security not only always the money. 

It's a good thing that the gunman was identified because as long as he is not named, speculations about ISIS involvement will continue to appear in the media.

Now, according to police reports, the gunman was identified as Jessie Carlos, a former DOF (Department of Finance) employee who is “heavily debt” due to casino gambling. His parents also confirmed that he was indeed addicted to it and was a frequent guest at the Resort World Manila.

Anyways, since it's finally over, I hope this case will be closed, and RWM management appropriately compensates the relatives of the victims. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families.

Yes, according to the Philippine police it is a robbery even if the ISIS claimed that they are the one who did it.  And also they already have the identity of the gunman.  He was a former government empoyee who was addicted into gambling.  He has a debt of around 4M pesos.  Lost his family because of his addiction to gambling. 

Gave that article a skim after reading about it here, that really was a senseless death went and got all the chips and then went and committed suicide.
Also one of the rare cases where being in the VIP room instead of escaping did not work because of smoke and fire.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/04/world/asia/philippines-casino-resorts-world-manila-jessie-carlos.html?_r=0
But looks like robbery ISIS sometimes just takes the credit for these lone wolf attacks since it presumes they are related.

Then he is really mentally disordered man. Without these informations, I think we will be staying in the idea that he is not a filipino. I think the deaths of many people there is really senseless, that is a selfish way to kill yourself. And yeah, ISIS claiming these incident as theirs, it is really funny.

UPDATE:

The Resorts World Manila gunman has been identified as Filipino Jessie Carlos, 43, separated, and a former tax specialist of the Department of Finance with known address at 1663 Felix Huertas corner San Lazaro St., Sta. Cruz, Manila.

NCRPO chief Director Oscar Albayalde, who ruled out speculation that the attack was an act of terrorism, said that Carlos had an outstanding debt of P4 million and was addicted to gambling. Carlos was described as a "high roller" and had been banned by PAGCOR from gambling in at least 4 casinos in Metro Manila.

Presented during the presscon were Carlos' parents and wife, who expressed their apologies and sympathy to families of the casualties of the attack.

Carlos, according to a 2014 article published in The Philippine Star, was found guilty of grave misconduct and neglect of duty for not declaring his house and lot in Manila in his SALNs from 2003 to 2006, his Toyota Innova SUV in his 2007 SALN, and his business interest in his 2010 SALN.

Following the decision, Carlos’ civil service eligibility was canceled, his retirement benefits forfeited, and he was perpetually disqualified ffrom reemployment in the government.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/05/06/1319846/dof-tax-specialist-fired-not-declaring-assets?nomobile=1

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It's clear that this man is full of debts. No he is not related to ISIS. ISIS can claimed whatever they want to make a hype.

Casinos have very tight entrance/exit arrangements. Usually, there will be only one entrance, and even that will be tightly controlled. This was the main reason why there were so many casualties.

Your grammar is bad, though yes, it was not a terrorist but a mental disordered man who lost his money on gambling on the casino. The video is viral on social media too, not only YouTube, you can also read some articles about it so you can update yourself. The reason why the people cant get out is because the people are terrified, with a lot of gun shots inside they dont know where to go, where to hide, or where to run, some floors are on fire so they dont know where to go, that is why they find a safe room or place and stayed there.

Yes, terrorist going to rob chips? yes, he will use those chips to build a weapon of mass destruction. Yes, Yes, very smart terrorist.
Yes, terrorist plays regularly at a casino.. hmmm very good terrorist for fooling people.

Yes, terrorist didn't shoot anyone very kind terrorist he would prefer shooting at the ceilings.

probably this terrorist was fucking broke that he can't buy bomb to blow himself up but instead use gasoline to burn himself.

I heard that news that i thought it was a terrorist but the suspect was die with him self..
I just heard that news at youtube when i open up its trending too fast in youtube..
But the problem about the casino why they are not let people to run outside they are too crazy life is important than chips..

So frustrating, we've been making our country beautiful again by eradicating drug users and starting to have a good relationship with other country leaders. From what happened, President Donal Trump banned people traveling from Australia from what happened. What's more frustrating is that, they can stop one man from doing these incident, there would be no dead people if the security is always ready to these kind of attack.