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So I am new to this bot like many others and have just one small question... For Cryptsy, when using the Procent Price Change Insurance do you set it at wanted raise .3% wanted drop .3% or something different? It is my understanding that you don't use OvercomeFeeCosts as this may cause issues. I am trading Darkcoin and it bought 5 successfully at .00955 and sold them at .00968282 which did make profit. But obviosly I want it to rebuy and catch the upward swing that we saw today to .0103.. I have the beginner licence and have a fixed drop-loss price safety set, a Stochastic Ocillator at a 1 minute interval with default settings, the Procent Price Change insurance at .3%,.3%, and a disable on (4) losses insurance. It seemed to be a descent profit maker in the long backhaul, but I would always love more advice to make more buys and more sells for consistent small gains. Right now it wont rebuy at the price of .0102 and gives the message:

7/15/2014 2:12:32 PM Insurance does not agree, trade is blocked. (Procent price change -Insurance (Wanted raise: 0.3 %, Wanted drop: 0.3 %))
7/15/2014 2:12:32 PM Buy signal produced by the trade indicator(s).

Any help would be greatly appreciated Cheesy
sr. member
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Does your bot support Mintpal?
If not, will it support MP in the near future?


Mintpal's trading API is closed at the moment
newbie
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Does anybody here actually use haasbot with kraken? What are your experiences?

In 0.9.9.10 i see the Kraken indicator charts are not updating correctly. So i dont trade kraken with hts anymore. I Reported this issue yesterday, good change this will be fixed at next update/version.

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Does anybody here actually use haasbot with kraken? What are your experiences?
newbie
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Hi All, been a while but I'm looking back to using my bot.  After glancing over some of the recent posts am I right in assuming there is an issue with some pricing on the cryptsy api?  AFter turning it back on I see it try to submit orders when prices already have changed.

Looking forward to the update!

Rae
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The principle works by having one or more trade-bots and at the moment the safety bot kicks then it will hijack all the coins of all the main bots. This will make sure the main bots can not trade anymore (they will get into error state because of a wrong coin position) and this way you can make sure your coins are safe.

Ok.

Another question about the indicators.
Does it mater which indicator is on the top ?.

In my bot i first have a slow indicator (30minutes update period) and then a faster one (5 minutes). I expected that when the first slow indicator is indicating a buy signal, a buy order will trigger as soon as the second/fast indicator will indicate a buy indication. But it looks like my bot "waits" for some reason ?. Looks like it's waiting for the first/slow indicator to trigger one more time.

Another strange thing is when i'm looking at "current signals" I get the felling that the first/slow indicator moves back to "hold" during the 30 minute period while it should hold it's signal to the next update.



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Does your bot support Mintpal?
If not, will it support MP in the near future?
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The principle works by having one or more trade-bots and at the moment the safety bot kicks then it will hijack all the coins of all the main bots. This will make sure the main bots can not trade anymore (they will get into error state because of a wrong coin position) and this way you can make sure your coins are safe.

This is of course an suggestion. If you add the drop-loss directly to the main bot then you will almost get the same result. The only difference between both methods is that the main bot can trade again is the prices restore. This is both the power and the down-side. If you add this safety directly to a main bot then it could be possible to get into a so called pendel situation. This means the safety kicks in and steps out directly again, this could result in a lot of unwanted trades. Having a separate drop-loss (or roof-in) bot avoids this problem (in case it happens). However the separate bot also has a downside and that you have to look once and a while to the software to make sure it runs good. (if the prices break to the roof or at a drop-loss situation of course)

BTW
I forget to post this... but the current version 0.9.9.10 has 2 new safeties added to all licenses. These safeties are capable of resetting the last buy (or sell) price and this was added on request by a few users.

If you have a strategy where you use the FeeOvercome then that makes use of the last buy/sell price of the trade-bot. But sometimes you want to reset this last price to follow the prices better (up or down). This could be done by disabling the check inside the FeeOverCome to check a buy or sell price, this could be done using the Percentage Change insurance (in specific with a percentage) and now also using the reset last buy or sell price.
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It looks like your stop loss blocked a buy.

I suggest making a sperate bot only for drop loss- roof in so that it wont interfere with your other bots.


Hi.

Will this separate bot for drop loss change the coin position for the "main" bot ?.
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When we can expect the update ??

Version 0.9.9.10 has just been released. (you only have to restart the trade-server for this!)

Version 1.0 (with the arbitrage) will come as soon as possible. The Alpha-2 release will be send by then end of this weekend to the testers again.


I was wondering if anybody is using the Aroon Oscillator and if you are having any luck with it? I've been playing around with it using an update interval of 5 minutes but not really seeing the results I'd like.

I am using it with the Percentage Earnings on Trade and StochRSI indicators, each set with an update interval of 5 minutes.

The only reason why the StochRSI gives good signals (at default settings alone already) is because it requires 2 times the time that you set for its calculation. (its an Stoch calculation over the RSI)

If you compare a StochRSI (5min) with an RSI (10min) then the signals are really close. There are not equal (that would be wrong) but really close.

What i am trying to show (and explain) here is that you can get much better trade signals if you increase the update timer. Its is not about time and speed for the most indicators, its about what they do best and that is giving trade signals at good trade moments. Just get into 10minutes, 30minutes and 60minutes update speed, that is the place you are looking for.

When you get more advanced on this then you can begin to combine a fast updating RSI with an slow Aroon Oscillator (for example). This way you can use the slow signal of the Aroon Oscillator for the long run (trade-momentum) and the RSI to get the last bit extra on the trade-momentum. But again, this is advanced stuff to setup.
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I was wondering if anybody is using the Aroon Oscillator and if you are having any luck with it? I've been playing around with it using an update interval of 5 minutes but not really seeing the results I'd like.

I am using it with the Percentage Earnings on Trade and StochRSI indicators, each set with an update interval of 5 minutes.
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When we can expect the update ??
sr. member
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Great. I'd really love to start trading VRC with the trade bot. Any chance of adding Mintpal as well much better volume there now and the site is much more responsive than Cryptsy

Cheers!

We are watching/searching for some good replacements for Cryptsy, at the moment Kraken is an alternative but there volume is a little low at some specific coins. Of course Mintpal is also on our list to support them , its indeed true there exchange is much more responsive, so we hope to add them in as soon as possible.

At the moment the small update i wrote about earlier is being beta tested and see if all the changes are correct. Once we got this confirmed then all the new coins will directly be added. (at the moment the new coin list exists out of: Caix, Cloak, Crypt, Dime, Glyph, Lgd, Ltb, Naut, Nrs, Sc, Tes, Unb, Vrc, Xc and Xlb)
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Great. I'd really love to start trading VRC with the trade bot. Any chance of adding Mintpal as well much better volume there now and the site is much more responsive than Cryptsy

Cheers!
sr. member
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Yes, i can confirm an update will be released this week to get the new trading pairs of cryptsy inside. We are issuing a small update to get everything updated again. This update is relative late because we wanted to release the big update, but we are behind schedule with it. I am sorry for this.


This is a very simplified image of how the arbitrage-bot will work. In reality it is much more complex and more options are possible. Please do not think about this to much, because the software will take about this. We have made this fully automated for you so it will be very easy to use.


We are currently in Alpha testing stage to see how the arbitrage-bots are working out. Once we have something solid and approved then this functionality will come as a free update to all licenses.


About order execution speed, please have good look of what you see. For the software and logic it is really important to place the order as soon as possible. After this it does not matter how fast the order itself is filled. The exchange itself will handle this process itself. It is also pointless to rush this tracking of an order because it will only flood the API and there is no advantage to it. So in conclusion it is very normal to see a delay between EXECUTING and the FILLED state. Please do not worry about this, its by design and for the best.


Prices and amounts are NOT rounded at all. We also do not use doubles or floats are something a like, instead we use pure numbers called decimals. These numbers are really exact and they show themselves to as many decimals as possible. However, there is a small drawback to this, sometimes a rounding can not be avoided like at multiplying numbers. If its needed then the software will implement a method called cutting. This a very common way in the financial work it out this way, and the impact of it can be fully ignored.


To get the most pure way to see what the software sends to the API please have a look to the debug logbook. In here you see the exact numbers that are send from the software. We can not show this more pure then this because this information comes from the lowest level of the software API implementation.


We are looking after a few recent reported bugs and i can not yet clarify them yet. There is a 403 error, possibly caused by the APi of bitstamp and there are a few reports about the fee reading of cryptsy. For the last one i would like to give out the advice to use the PercentagePrice -insurance. Its the same as the FeeOvercome insurance but with the exception then the software does not have to read the fee percentages, in this setup you can edit them yourselves. So its avoids the fee reading at cryptsy. - In anyway, please know we are aware of these strange bugs and we will resolve them as soon as possible. Its my target to solve them directly when we release the small update to add in the new coins.
legendary
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You have to wait for an update that will add the new coins.

-Krach
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Hey guys. Anyone know how to make Vericoin come up on the list for Cryptsy? I can't see it no matter what I try. I have the latest version 0.9.9.9 installed of Haasonline Trade Server.
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Hi,
Internal arbitrage is when on exchange X  you trade for example usd for btc and then btc for ltc and then ltc for usd and you have more usd then you started with, all on one exchange. That is what will be supported.

-Krach
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Does this bot support arbitrage between api exchanges?

No, but the updated version coming out will support "internal" arbitrage within an exchange.
-Krach

What does that mean?
Sorry im a noob.

What I need it to do is:
1) list bitcoins on exchange "A" for 2% more than bitstamp (in foreign currency).
2) when coins sell on exchange "A" - buy that amount of coins on bitstamp.

Thats it.
No transfers or withdrawals necessary at all.
Ive found threads online where lots of people are looking for such bots, so there definitely is a demand on the market for such a bot.
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I have the Beginner –license set it up 10 hours ago with Cryptsy and connected, activated, put my btc in trade amount Configuration set to Auto-tune said its running and activated but I see no trades just sit there, what I’m not doing or have to do yet? Is there some place I can find detail instruction. Some of the videos on Utube help with connecting to Cryptsy but not helping me with running program. Please need some help.
Paul
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