Topic: Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic] - page 26. (Read 416703 times)

No, but the updated version coming out will support "internal" arbitrage within an exchange.
-Krach

Does this bot support arbitrage between api exchanges?

I have also reported that prices sometimes come up wrong. So you might not want to scuff this one off as 'just a claim'.

Also, I have tried and do some back and forth between Cryptsys API guy and Haas, and while both blame eachother, I actually tend to believe Cryptsys guy. For the simple fact that other people doing other or the same stuff with the API but with different programs have no problems there.

I have tried to report some simple bugs and while there is Always an 'explanation', it's not one that comforts me. Not at all. 'A rounding error' , 'you can not trade amounts that small'.... WHAT

I even noticed that the latency between the bot and the API goes up to 2200+ ms ! Could that be a reason for wrong prices?

Seriously, I want this thing to work ! But I will give it just one more day of thought before I will push for a refund.

tradelog:
06/23/2014 3:08 AMSell0.01570000.00.00.0 0.00000047
REAL price:
2014-06-22 21:08:25Sell0.01620000 0.01000000 0.00016200

2014-23-06 05:18:31.755 |ORDER_STACK| {Cryptsy Buy 15.432 Pot @ 0.0000178 Btc/Pot} changed to status QUEUED
2014-23-06 05:18:31.755 |ORDER_STACK| {Cryptsy Buy 15.432 Pot @ 0.0000178 Btc/Pot} changed to status QUEUED
2014-23-06 05:18:31.755 |ORDER_STACK| {Cryptsy Buy 15.432 Pot @ 0.0000178 Btc/Pot} changed to status EXECUTING
2014-23-06 05:18:42.980 |ORDER_STACK| {Cryptsy Buy 15.432 Pot @ 0.0000178 Btc/Pot} changed to status COMPLETED

The REAL price:
2014-06-22 23:18:30Buy0.00001702  15.43200000 0.00026265

First of all the claim is that the prices are wrong, I wanted to show that they look fine as far as I am concerned. Yes Craptsy continues to do strange stuff sometimes. Belive me Mintpal is going to come but I can not say when. There are also altcoins on BTC-E just not as many but the trading is much more stable. I am not trading 0.1 BC and the fee costs are overcome. This is not to show "big profits" ,again this is to show that the prices are correct and you can trade on that market. I can show more markets too.

It was joke, don´t be so serious Anyway You must have a different version, probably some magical developer´s edition. Mine is broken somehow, as its mostly sending orders with prices different than on Cryptsy order book and then does not pull them back.


Its low, but its still above fee costs. Other thing is If its worth time / electricity to grab about 0.3% on low volumes.

You don t seem to overcome fee costs with this kind of trading or am i missing something? Also, u didn t show the amounts u trade. could be 0.1 BC or less. I m also trading just altcoins and i gave up on haasbot some time ago because of stuck craptsy orders or strange bot behaviours. Stephan, you could ask Mintpal to get access to beta api, it sure works better than the crapsy one. I d really like to start using your product again, hope it will improve someday, hopefully before license expires.

Of course You do, but manually

im trading on doge,drk,pot,ltc,bc on cryptsy without problems

Sad to see that nothing had changed.. I have no intentions to trade fiat, so I tried to trade on Craptsy and gave up months ago (all my issues described with screenshots can be found here, starting on page 68). Only way to make some profit was scalping CEX.IO, but since they added trading fees, its not worth it. Most issues came from crappy Cryptsy API, so I am still waiting to some other exchange (Mintpal would be awesome).


Note the date of this posts.. Nothing changed 

It doesn't. I'm sure you didn't expect it to, but it really doesn't.

As an altcoin trader, I sprung for the "simple" license right off the bat, and had no idea it would be this non-functional.
Back in late February this bot was being advertised around pretty well, and I decided against buying it due to reading about the bugs. I figured hey, it's over 3 months later, things have probably improved. Maybe they have, I don't know since I wasn't using it at the time, but I'm completely shocked at the lack of quality and how much of a waste this purchase has been.

You already mentioned it, the time it takes to support the newest coins is far behind the trend where it would be useful to have a bot for this. I thought "hey this would be pretty awesome for Cryptsy", and maybe it is partially Cryptsy's fault that it isn't, but most of the problems that the bot has interacting with Cryptsy apply to the other exchanges too.
I'm not interested in trading btc/fiat at all, not even a little. Seeing as that's the only thing this bot can half-do, I decided to give it a try and hope that the functionality was better. It still really isn't. There are just so many times when the bot is trading the wrong amount, halting trades because of an error, not recognizing if it's in a bought or sold position, not knowing if it's successfully performed an order, not refreshing a cancelled order till the next time the indicator updates, and all sorts of weird quirks that make turning the bot on a crapshoot if it's going to do well or not.
The concept of a drop-loss in this bot is just hilariously ineffective, trying to sell at highest available market price when ideally selling ASAP before things get worse. I can't even imagine the person that would be asking for it to scrape that 1 extra cent while the market is plummeting. You can set it to Market Order mode for this specific circumstance, but that doesn't work on most of the exchanges and apparently leads to all sorts of problems with the logging, plus you can't specify that you'd only want drop loss to be Market Order while everything else could be Limit Order instead.
Backtesting is also kind of funny, because you can try a backtest then restart the server, and there can be a 6000% positive or negative difference in the recording of what it maybe could have done, which isn't a very realistic expectation of an indicator updating every 5 minutes and only taking a new sample with the server starting two minutes later.

If I were given the option between a refund and waiting for 1.0 to see all the fixes, I'd take the refund in a heartbeat, because as you've already seen by reading this thread, fixes don't seem to happen. I have little hope that these things are going to improve and at that point. I've basically written off the .43 BTC spent as if it were a bad trade.


It wasn't all bad for me, just mostly totally bad.
At the very least, I like the indicator charts it produces, that is when it's within the 30 second window you have before the "interface updates" and knocks you out of that screen. I mean you can make charts practically anywhere of course, but I've somewhat ironically learned more about doing better trades manually through use of this bot.

I do want to express that I feel pretty bad writing this. Through support ticket and email interactions with Stephan so far, he's been a FANTASTIC person though all of this. Very polite, quick to respond, detailed explanations of things, and really seeming to care about what I am saying as a customer. I could not ask for more excellent support through all of this, I truly thank you.
It's just the product has not been useful to me at all, and I have to say I couldn't be able to recommend it to anyone, for any function, in this current state.

I'm doing both here and in a ticket. Kinda hoping to get some feedback here aswell in order to collect the bugs.

And if it really isn't solved and there is no prospect of solving it, I want a refund. No matter what the terms say.

It won't be my first choice, if they say the simple version works I will even upgrade. If they say version 1.0 works and will be released soon, I will wait. But I need to know....

I already found out that sometimes the prices in the bot don't even match the actual price I bought/sold for. That by itself makes it useless.

For trade on cryptsy use procentage price  change instead of overcome fee costs

We are looking at the cryptsy issues.

Best is to make a ticket to document everything.

Thanks

Not just you. I wanted to trade alts on cryptsy too. There are so many bugs and inconsistencies it is unusable.

Do I report bugs here ? or to support ?

or do I wait until version 1 and then do it ?

:-(

Mje, I just now found out that some prices on the bot also differ from the actual prices. That kinda makes the whole thing unusable, especially if the wrong prices are taken into account for deciding to do a trade or not....

Seriously, am I the only one who wants to use this just for Alt-Coin trading ? 

I guess it due to a float precision problem, the Author may use variable instead of variable in the Bot.

I don't know much about API's and coding, but since my wallet is properly displayed I would say the problem with an exact 0.00002% difference is within the program.

Yea, the cryptsy API has been crapsy for a while.

I know, I can solve it. But this is what I mean by saying that bugs that have been reported months ago still exist. A support ticket seems kinda useless, since it has been reported way back and no one obviously looked at it.

I was kinda hoping this would be a support thread, but apparently this Stephan only logs on and off...

Hi,
Please send technical questions via a support ticket.

I would have to try to recreate your bot settings. I would suggest that if you have 15.XXX POT then to try trading 14 POT as your trade ammount.

Thanks