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Topic: [Hands On] Bitmain AntMiner S5+ - Notlist3d - page 5. (Read 14034 times)

legendary
Activity: 1456
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Well first good test of what happens when something goes wrong.  My networking to my mining area went down it's middle of night here.   Quick look at all the networking no quick fix. 

The miner looked fine I was worried without internet if it had problems as some S5's did.  But nothing visibly wrong at all.   So turned it off just to be safe with no networking.  I will be fixing it early in a few hours on what ever network problem I have into mining area.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
"dream box"






Tested. S5 + works with  S5 18 pin controller board.

That could be awesome! I wish bitmain work on something like that with the new chips.  Grin

3th and something around 650-700 watt dream!

I hope they keep this design for next small version.   I still like the S4 having it all in one box, if they did that with more density would be great.

But this way of linking smaller miners really does work great.  I'm sure it would cost a few extra dollars to make the controller this nice, but it's a option I would pay for to be able to combine smaller miners hash rates.  And the 3 hashing blades per so far has worked great.
legendary
Activity: 1302
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Interesting for running S5+ boards on S5 controller.

I suppose this also mean you could run some salvaged S5+ blades on S5 controllers later on. That could come in handy.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
"dream box"






Tested. S5 + works with  S5 18 pin controller board.

That could be awesome! I wish bitmain work on something like that with the new chips.  Grin

3th and something around 650-700 watt dream!
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Well almost 3 days and still not a single issue.  I have not had to power cycle it.  It just keeps running great as far as spec.   I'm giving it pretty high marks so far.  Below shows it running for almost 3 days no X's or other issues.

legendary
Activity: 1456
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What is the DB from 1 meter @notlist3d?

Btw, great guide notlist3d, If I wasn't savinig my coins for s7, I would definetly buy one.

I am definetly looking forward to oc tests, since we were all running s5s around 60 degrees. But the temperatures from the screenshots notlist3d provided seems to be very good, so freq can increase without heat problems, as it seems. Also I noticed fans are working at 4000 rpm, so they can also go 5000 rpm and heat would be avoided.

It's in a mining room so I can't get a accurate DB I appolgize.  It is not quiet though.   Just a lot of other miners and fan's so hard to get a good db reading.

Biggest difference between is with less heat.  It seems to keep much cooler then the very hot S5.
sr. member
Activity: 266
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Infected Mushroom
What is the DB from 1 meter @notlist3d?

Btw, great guide notlist3d, If I wasn't savinig my coins for s7, I would definetly buy one.

I am definetly looking forward to oc tests, since we were all running s5s around 60 degrees. But the temperatures from the screenshots notlist3d provided seems to be very good, so freq can increase without heat problems, as it seems. Also I noticed fans are working at 4000 rpm, so they can also go 5000 rpm and heat would be avoided.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
"dream box"






Tested. S5 + works with  S5 18 pin controller board.

Thanks for sharing the info!  It really is a great miner I'm loving i so far not a single problem which is nice to say the least.
legendary
Activity: 1218
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"dream box"





Tested. S5 + works with  S5 18 pin controller board.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
that's really nice review of S5+,
i'm expecting it by next Sunday and looking forward to ask you a few questions in order to make sure that i'm on the right track.

- do i need to make any hardware changes on it before i startup the miner ?
- what's the best option for the pool? setup 3 pools or choose the best one ( which is effective ?)
- do you think that S5+ is the best miner to start a mining farm or should i use S5 as a stable tested miner ?

Thanks.

As far as hardware changes it depends on your setup.  You will need the proper amount of electricity to run it (16 Amps).  I personally did this with a 240 30 amp breaker connected to a PDU and then the recommended bitmain server PSU's being used.

All depends it is honestly personal preference.  Some will say support one of the smaller pools.  I personally have antpool as my main as PPS is lower rate then f2 pool.    But some like to miner other way's where luck has a factor in it.  So not really a wrong pool in most cases just a personal preference.

The S5+ is a great miner as far as small footprint and a lot of power it is also more efficient the the regular S5.  I would say it is easy to install if you have the electricity planned out.  Speaking as far as install it's same general GUI on S5+ or S5.  Either way as far as miner settings its really the same on setup from GUI.   Biggest difference is knowing your electricity setup, if you can do this yes very good for any one.   
full member
Activity: 161
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that's really nice review of S5+,
i'm expecting it by next Sunday and looking forward to ask you a few questions in order to make sure that i'm on the right track.

- do i need to make any hardware changes on it before i startup the miner ?
- what's the best option for the pool? setup 3 pools or choose the best one ( which is effective ?)
- do you think that S5+ is the best miner to start a mining farm or should i use S5 as a stable tested miner ?

Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Also put yourself in Bitmain's shoes. If you could sell (and in turn ship) 1000 units vs 3000 units at roughly the same margins, and you firmly believed that you would sell out either way, you choose the one with less logistics involved. It's hard to call any of their decisions poorly made when they sell out of pretty much everything they make, even if those decisions aren't 100% to our liking.

I don't disagree it was a business decision.  They knew 3 worked good and in a very surprisingly small box approx 3 S5's.   And it allowed them to use a LOT of chips.

We don't know for sure this is likely the only production run of this mine, unless they have time to squeeze more before next gen.   But I hope next gen what ever it is has more design like the S5+ then the S5.  The metal casing and push/pull fans honestly are worth the extra cost.   

The miner has ran for over a day and ran perfect so far.
legendary
Activity: 1022
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Also put yourself in Bitmain's shoes. If you could sell (and in turn ship) 1000 units vs 3000 units at roughly the same margins, and you firmly believed that you would sell out either way, you choose the one with less logistics involved. It's hard to call any of their decisions poorly made when they sell out of pretty much everything they make, even if those decisions aren't 100% to our liking.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1183
dogiecoin.com
I would have purchased a 1/3 size unit. I do think this would have been nice gear.

I'll bet this was a "Marketing decision" and not a technical one. Who knows, after they have gotten all the folks that will pay for a 3-module version, they could start marketing a 1-module version . Of course the BM1385 and S7 might render that possibility moot. Just speculation on my part.

If marketing includes market appetite then probably yeah. People that complain about a 10btc S5+ will complain harder about a 4btc S5++.
alh
legendary
Activity: 1843
Merit: 1050
I would have purchased a 1/3 size unit. I do think this would have been nice gear.

I'll bet this was a "Marketing decision" and not a technical one. Who knows, after they have gotten all the folks that will pay for a 3-module version, they could start marketing a 1-module version . Of course the BM1385 and S7 might render that possibility moot. Just speculation on my part.
legendary
Activity: 4116
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'The right to privacy matters'
I would have purchased a 1/3 size unit. I do think this would have been nice gear.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.

down the road you can try a 10 volt freq 200 underclock.

I will help you get to 10 volts to do it.

Thank you!  Down the road I do plan on playing with it more.  But with paper/email it really seems bitmain is getting harder on warranty.  So I'm going to ride out the warranty in default specs.

The one thing I am surprised just going over my notes is that they did not sell a 1 module unit.   Each module is 100 percent the same.  The only difference is one of the three had the controller put on it.  So they easily could have don't like a S5+ one module, or three module with no additional cost other then more controller boards.
legendary
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.

down the road you can try a 10 volt freq 200 underclock.

I will help you get to 10 volts to do it.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).

I would agree it will be pretty close.  They never had the avalon/sp gear adjustment on over/under clock effecting efficiency in big chunks.

I do think it could be overclocked though and get even more hash.  I personally did not do it as I don't want to break my 90 day warranty.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1183
dogiecoin.com
I can't imagine there would be any more efficiency to gain from under-clocking than an S5, which is slim to none without undervolting.

As a guess I would assume it has a little bit of possibilities.  But Bitmain gear really always shinned on the amount of overclocking you could do vs the underclock.

I am also still working with my PDU.    I'm hoping to get the networking working on it where I can monitor stats easy on watts used, but it is second hand gear so I'm not even sure network port works.

If its anything like the S5 then graph of power consumption was almost perfectly linear vs frequency, and efficiency remained constant within the range of the chips (both up and down).
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