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January 23, 2018, 03:26:50 PM
True  Cheesy  I just meant to avoid these kinds of things use a little oil every 3-6months. 
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January 23, 2018, 02:30:13 PM
HIS cards are literally falling apart while they are running  Grin Grin Grin



Anyone else having GPU fans failing spectacularly?

Sewing machine oil and a syringe does wonders for fans.

I think it's too late to try oiling this one...  Grin
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January 23, 2018, 02:21:11 PM
HIS cards are literally falling apart while they are running  Grin Grin Grin



Anyone else having GPU fans failing spectacularly?

Sewing machine oil and a syringe does wonders for fans.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 23, 2018, 02:14:30 PM
HIS cards are literally falling apart while they are running  Grin Grin Grin



Anyone else having GPU fans failing spectacularly?

only if I hit the blades
hero member
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Fail to plan, and you plan to fail.
January 23, 2018, 01:53:50 PM
HIS cards are literally falling apart while they are running  Grin Grin Grin



Anyone else having GPU fans failing spectacularly?
legendary
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January 23, 2018, 03:08:37 AM
Anyone else notice that "Seller Newegg" listings for the 1070 ti (AND 1080) are almost all gone entirely as of tonight (they had a BUNCH this afternoon).
Not "notify only" but NOT there at all (exactly ONE left).

Makes me furiously to wonder what's behind THAT....


Also found this in an article dated October 29....

"Nvidia’s manufacturing partner TSMC has confirmed that volume production of the upcoming Volta GPUs will begin towards the end of year, giving us major clues as to the release date."

 Which would explain a lot of the current Pascal shortage, if TSMC shifted most of or all Pascal production to Volta about a month ago.

legendary
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January 23, 2018, 02:18:56 AM


 Not THIS time around.
 Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory).

 I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up).



OK... to be a bit more fair to the demand analysts at both companies... I agree that it's maybe not reasonable for them to predict the DEGREE of this mid-Nov to early Jan... but most certainly some kind of Q1-Q2'17 pump should have at the very least been included in their scenario analysis.  I would give them almost a complete pass on that early '17 situation since there was no precedent for it. But that event itself should have been considered as a potential precursor for another such rise in prices, and hence, demand for GPUs.  As someone who has done this type of work, I would be expected to at the very least to make management aware of these scenarios. Maybe they did and they were just quashed by moron directors that know nothing about crypto, we will never know for sure... but most certainly, somebody dropped the ball big time at both companies. Again, not saying they should have predicted the Degree of spike but they clearly ignored the possibility outright.

As to the timeline of stock disappearing... this is what I observed:

- I was able to get 3 Vega 56's from NewEgg in mid-Nov for $450 each.  Maybe 7-10 after that I realized prices going up, then they were pretty much gone by first week of Dec
- This is what started me looking into Nvidia cards. I was out of the country for about 11 days and back just after xmas and in the next few days, was able to get 4 1070ti's for about $500/each.
- By the time i decided i wanted more just a few days later, they were either gone or way above retail.
- That started me looking into rx 570s. Was able to get an MSI 570 8GB from newegg for $300 on Jan 3rd and 4GB variety for $270 on Jan 8th.  Since then, nothing readily available at all for a reasonable price.

So, it seemed that top-end AMD dried up first, then top-end NVidia (1070 and up - actaully 1070 & 70ti's seemed to go first closely followed by 1080s. I remember there still being 1080tis available for $800 when I was looking for more 70ti's), then AMD mid-range (570-580) was next to go.  Granted, it seems very likely that a big cause of the Vega shortage is the shortness of HBM2. Once those intitial blower style Vegas were gone, it's just been way too long for any amount of custom ones to hit the market, and only a very very few have.



 I have no idea why you think they were supposed to predict this price surge, much less how much it would be and how "across the board" it would be.
 The last AND ONLY such widespread price surge was back this spring, not Q4 - and that was ITSELF "no precedent for it" as you say.
 Even the Chinese "markets re-opened to Yuan purchases" event didn't produce such a sudden widespread HUGE jump - it bumped Bitcoin up a lot fast and helped feed a long surge, but nothing else went up much at that time.

 The other factor to keep in mind - they might not be ABLE to bump production much if at all, given how swamped every 14/16nm production line has been during their entire existence (except Samsung, but the Nvidia move to produce SOME of their cards on Samsung seems to have eaten THAT spare production) there doesn't seem to BE much if any spare production left at that node.
 It's been a long-known fact that lead times on 14/16nm are measured in months, and have been for a long time now - AMD and Nvidia would have had to predict this surge LAST SUMMER at the latest, and in that timeframe coin pricing had flattened out to started drifting DOWN.

 Vega disappeared for 2 reasons - the widespread "this is a KILLER Monero mining card" reviews and articles that started showing up in early-to-mid November, and the extreme existing shortage of production on them probably due to continuing issues with HBM2 production.
 That PREdated the big December price jump and is not related (though the price jump certainly didn't HELP any).

 I have yet to see stock anywhere of Vega custom cards, though I've seen a couple of listings.
 Possible someone had a few and I missed it though.

 1070 1070ti and 1080 dried up pretty close together, yes - and 1080 ti a day or two after that.
 AMD Polaris was almost a week later from what I saw.
 I'm not sure on the 1060 6GB cards, there WERE still a few 1060 3GB available for a couple days after the last of the AMD 470/570/480/480 cards at non-gouge pricing went poof.


 Unfortunately, Newegg has decided to start doing MILD gouging on what stock they're getting now - not DOUBLE, but 20-40% over normal markup level so far.

legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
January 23, 2018, 12:32:08 AM

6 x Vega64 (Sapphire)
2 x Vega64 (Gigabyte)
2 x Vega56 (Gigabyte)

Offer starts at 1.5 BTC for all 10 x Vegas.

$1,500+ USD each? Is that a typo

That's the going price or higher in Amazon.com and elsewhere.

Its all about supply and demand, my friend.

Yeah if you can get people to pay it I do not blame you 1 bit.

I sold 9 1070ti hybrids.  for  5400 600 each  a small markup but they earned me about 1500 in mining.

So a 1500-1650 profit in 2 months is good for me.

Of course I am a reasonable guy and will consider lower price if there are enough feedback - after all I don't go against market price.

Oh yeah... screw those BIOS flashing etc during the AMD era - moving to NVIDIA was a big blessing in disguise - so much easier to tame these cards and also get them cool and eat less power.

Btw, I have dealt with Sidonia/Letine, Panto-tech and also the K17 guys. And I have bought from all 3 of them. So far so good and with PayPal. I guess we need to be exact in our emails or Alibaba chat service - plain English to avoid any misunderstanding. In my experience, they are very good in written English compared to spoken ie Skype etc.

Try to get them to also bundle the RAM and PCIE short cables, in most cases i get better deal for these parts from them because they probably buy or manufacture in bulk.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 22, 2018, 11:55:34 PM

6 x Vega64 (Sapphire)
2 x Vega64 (Gigabyte)
2 x Vega56 (Gigabyte)

Offer starts at 1.5 BTC for all 10 x Vegas.

$1,500+ USD each? Is that a typo

That's the going price or higher in Amazon.com and elsewhere.

Its all about supply and demand, my friend.

Yeah if you can get people to pay it I do not blame you 1 bit.

I sold 9 1070ti hybrids.  for  5400 600 each  a small markup but they earned me about 1500 in mining.

So a 1500-1650 profit in 2 months is good for me.
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
January 22, 2018, 11:26:35 PM

6 x Vega64 (Sapphire)
2 x Vega64 (Gigabyte)
2 x Vega56 (Gigabyte)

Offer starts at 1.5 BTC for all 10 x Vegas.

$1,500+ USD each? Is that a typo

That's the going price or higher in Amazon.com and elsewhere.

Its all about supply and demand, my friend.
sr. member
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January 22, 2018, 11:19:32 PM
Also have an order with sidonia. She mention shipping by end of this week or early next week. During my purchase a 22nd jan delivery was mentioned.

Hope it arrives in time with my 1070ti batch. Never want to go back to risers.
newbie
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January 22, 2018, 10:56:26 PM
Sidonia Huang
2018-01-17 19:49


Dear Bubba,

Delivery will be made at the end of this month, mass production will be ready at the end of this month,

all clients are waiting for the end of month delivery, we will update you at the first time once ready Smiley

Best regards

Sidonia
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January 22, 2018, 09:42:37 PM


Fuck bios flashing.

Repeat  fuck bios flashing

one more time fuck bios flashing.




She also told me  10 people mentioned me  as referrals.


I'll bump  that big fuck you to bios flashing lol. I only did 1 rigs worth and it wasn't that difficult with the batch flasher but I still had a bit of anxiety doing it. Even if I brick a card I would just get a refund, but it's still a hassle and wasted time, to me time>$$$

And yeppers - I mentioned Philipma sent me - give me a deal! Kept swearing I was already getting the best deal though hahaha.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 22, 2018, 09:03:34 PM
Thanks to everyone here who helped me get my 1070ti rig up and running. Let's just say that I have been very pleasantly surprised by the extreme ease of setup and use of these Nvidia GPUs! Makes me kick myself for waiting so long to branch out from AMD.

I've had this rig running on ETH+DCR for a few days without 1 single crash or issue. I know that ETH is not the best use for these but wanted to try it out with a miner/coin i was very familiar with out of the gate.

Now that I know it's super stable, I was about to start mining ZClassic via MPH. But, I just realized that Claymore's Equihash miner is AMD-only, so I would like to ask for some recommendations for good Nvidia miners.  

The 3 I have seen mentioned are EWBF, Silent Army, and Nicehash (I am not using NH is that makes a difference)... so was wondering what your experiences have been with these 3 and any others. Thanks!

 EWBF, DSTM, and BMiner are the current Windows-based contenders.
 Silent Army (zawata) is quite a bit behind the curve on equihash.
 Nicehash uses EWBF as an external miner (and I think they added DSTM support in a recent version) and stopped developing their own equihash miner months ago.



I am still astounded at how easy setting up and running my Nvidia rig has been. Firstly, the drivers install in like 3 minutes... vs a about 20 for AMD.  Since launching, it's been running 2-3 days on ETH+DCR then another 4+ on ZCL.  In that time, not 1 crash, 1 restart... nothing! Running smooth, silent and cool non-stop since launching it! I cannot say anythign even close to that for my 470 rigs... even the 2 better ones lol.  Needless to say, I am now a big fan of team green and not only will be selling my Vega's to eventually get more 1070ti's but also considering not building the 570 rig I've been collecting parts for. So much less to worry about with Nvidia, although certainly i have a small sample size in only 4 cards running for 1 week so far.  But, i lost almost half a day on one of my 470 rigs yesterday... windows update (since I was wary of that intel bug and wanted to patch it). Once it finished, it took me about 4 hours to get it back up and running. Yes, partly my fault cuz i forgot i had to run the pixel patcher after re-installing new drivers, which was already after running DDU in safe mode lol. But still, just a major frustrating PITA!

Fuck bios flashing.

Repeat  fuck bios flashing

one more time fuck bios flashing.




@  alibaba   buyers.   I was told they  ran out  and was given a refund for the new version.  I ordered a sample of 1.  She refunded my paypal 191 usd.
 I have given her  almost 4300 usd in orders  a total of 31 mobos. She also told me  10 people mentioned me  as referrals.

I hope you all did paypal. 

Yeah  I would like to think  she is young and pretty.  Could be my Granddaughter. 
I am almost 61  I could have  22 or 23 year old  grandaughter. 

I do consider them to be the better seller then the people that sold me the suspect k17 board.
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January 22, 2018, 08:55:18 PM
Thanks to everyone here who helped me get my 1070ti rig up and running. Let's just say that I have been very pleasantly surprised by the extreme ease of setup and use of these Nvidia GPUs! Makes me kick myself for waiting so long to branch out from AMD.

I've had this rig running on ETH+DCR for a few days without 1 single crash or issue. I know that ETH is not the best use for these but wanted to try it out with a miner/coin i was very familiar with out of the gate.

Now that I know it's super stable, I was about to start mining ZClassic via MPH. But, I just realized that Claymore's Equihash miner is AMD-only, so I would like to ask for some recommendations for good Nvidia miners.  

The 3 I have seen mentioned are EWBF, Silent Army, and Nicehash (I am not using NH is that makes a difference)... so was wondering what your experiences have been with these 3 and any others. Thanks!

 EWBF, DSTM, and BMiner are the current Windows-based contenders.
 Silent Army (zawata) is quite a bit behind the curve on equihash.
 Nicehash uses EWBF as an external miner (and I think they added DSTM support in a recent version) and stopped developing their own equihash miner months ago.



I am still astounded at how easy setting up and running my Nvidia rig has been. Firstly, the drivers install in like 3 minutes... vs a about 20 for AMD.  Since launching, it's been running 2-3 days on ETH+DCR then another 4+ on ZCL.  In that time, not 1 crash, 1 restart... nothing! Running smooth, silent and cool non-stop since launching it! I cannot say anythign even close to that for my 470 rigs... even the 2 better ones lol.  Needless to say, I am now a big fan of team green and not only will be selling my Vega's to eventually get more 1070ti's but also considering not building the 570 rig I've been collecting parts for. So much less to worry about with Nvidia, although certainly i have a small sample size in only 4 cards running for 1 week so far.  But, i lost almost half a day on one of my 470 rigs yesterday... windows update (since I was wary of that intel bug and wanted to patch it). Once it finished, it took me about 4 hours to get it back up and running. Yes, partly my fault cuz i forgot i had to run the pixel patcher after re-installing new drivers, which was already after running DDU in safe mode lol. But still, just a major frustrating PITA!

Same - I had a firesale of all my AMD cards.  sold 14 and I have another 4 to go.  NVIDA plus linux = miners dream.
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January 22, 2018, 08:39:08 PM


Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
 

 Not a fair or accurate statement.
 There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand.

 The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL.

 Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST.

I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia.

 Not THIS time around.
 Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory).

 I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up).



OK... to be a bit more fair to the demand analysts at both companies... I agree that it's maybe not reasonable for them to predict the DEGREE of this mid-Nov to early Jan... but most certainly some kind of Q1-Q2'17 pump should have at the very least been included in their scenario analysis.  I would give them almost a complete pass on that early '17 situation since there was no precedent for it. But that event itself should have been considered as a potential precursor for another such rise in prices, and hence, demand for GPUs.  As someone who has done this type of work, I would be expected to at the very least to make management aware of these scenarios. Maybe they did and they were just quashed by moron directors that know nothing about crypto, we will never know for sure... but most certainly, somebody dropped the ball big time at both companies. Again, not saying they should have predicted the Degree of spike but they clearly ignored the possibility outright.

As to the timeline of stock disappearing... this is what I observed:

- I was able to get 3 Vega 56's from NewEgg in mid-Nov for $450 each.  Maybe 7-10 after that I realized prices going up, then they were pretty much gone by first week of Dec
- This is what started me looking into Nvidia cards. I was out of the country for about 11 days and back just after xmas and in the next few days, was able to get 4 1070ti's for about $500/each.
- By the time i decided i wanted more just a few days later, they were either gone or way above retail.
- That started me looking into rx 570s. Was able to get an MSI 570 8GB from newegg for $300 on Jan 3rd and 4GB variety for $270 on Jan 8th.  Since then, nothing readily available at all for a reasonable price.

So, it seemed that top-end AMD dried up first, then top-end NVidia (1070 and up - actaully 1070 & 70ti's seemed to go first closely followed by 1080s. I remember there still being 1080tis available for $800 when I was looking for more 70ti's), then AMD mid-range (570-580) was next to go.  Granted, it seems very likely that a big cause of the Vega shortage is the shortness of HBM2. Once those intitial blower style Vegas were gone, it's just been way too long for any amount of custom ones to hit the market, and only a very very few have.

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January 22, 2018, 08:17:51 PM
Anyone have an update on recent Onda D250 boards from Sidonia? She told me earlier this month that they had the v1 boards in stock  and I made an order for them. Now she is saying there is shortage on the PCB material and the production will be delayed, which were supposed to be in stock in the first place. First order from Alibaba and getting jittery at this point...

I ordered last week and the last I heard was that they would ship out at the end of January, and that would be it until after the Chinese New Year.  She's said nothing about any delay due to materials.
Regarding the "she" part, isn't it suspicious that all the sellers from Letine are young pretty girls? I bet we are actually chatting with fat old guys Smiley

Sales 101 homie. Any time I would be pitching or closing a new client I made sure to bring one of the pretty loan girls or even my secretary. Just shut up and smile is what I'd tell them. Works every time.
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January 22, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
Anyone have an update on recent Onda D250 boards from Sidonia? She told me earlier this month that they had the v1 boards in stock  and I made an order for them. Now she is saying there is shortage on the PCB material and the production will be delayed, which were supposed to be in stock in the first place. First order from Alibaba and getting jittery at this point...

I ordered last week and the last I heard was that they would ship out at the end of January, and that would be it until after the Chinese New Year.  She's said nothing about any delay due to materials.
Regarding the "she" part, isn't it suspicious that all the sellers from Letine are young pretty girls? I bet we are actually chatting with fat old guys Smiley
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January 22, 2018, 07:53:04 PM
Anyone have an update on recent Onda D250 boards from Sidonia? She told me earlier this month that they had the v1 boards in stock  and I made an order for them. Now she is saying there is shortage on the PCB material and the production will be delayed, which were supposed to be in stock in the first place. First order from Alibaba and getting jittery at this point...

I ordered last week and the last I heard was that they would ship out at the end of January, and that would be it until after the Chinese New Year.  She's said nothing about any delay due to materials.
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Activity: 350
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January 22, 2018, 07:50:15 PM
Thanks to everyone here who helped me get my 1070ti rig up and running. Let's just say that I have been very pleasantly surprised by the extreme ease of setup and use of these Nvidia GPUs! Makes me kick myself for waiting so long to branch out from AMD.

I've had this rig running on ETH+DCR for a few days without 1 single crash or issue. I know that ETH is not the best use for these but wanted to try it out with a miner/coin i was very familiar with out of the gate.

Now that I know it's super stable, I was about to start mining ZClassic via MPH. But, I just realized that Claymore's Equihash miner is AMD-only, so I would like to ask for some recommendations for good Nvidia miners.  

The 3 I have seen mentioned are EWBF, Silent Army, and Nicehash (I am not using NH is that makes a difference)... so was wondering what your experiences have been with these 3 and any others. Thanks!

 EWBF, DSTM, and BMiner are the current Windows-based contenders.
 Silent Army (zawata) is quite a bit behind the curve on equihash.
 Nicehash uses EWBF as an external miner (and I think they added DSTM support in a recent version) and stopped developing their own equihash miner months ago.



I am still astounded at how easy setting up and running my Nvidia rig has been. Firstly, the drivers install in like 3 minutes... vs a about 20 for AMD.  Since launching, it's been running 2-3 days on ETH+DCR then another 4+ on ZCL.  In that time, not 1 crash, 1 restart... nothing! Running smooth, silent and cool non-stop since launching it! I cannot say anythign even close to that for my 470 rigs... even the 2 better ones lol.  Needless to say, I am now a big fan of team green and not only will be selling my Vega's to eventually get more 1070ti's but also considering not building the 570 rig I've been collecting parts for. So much less to worry about with Nvidia, although certainly i have a small sample size in only 4 cards running for 1 week so far.  But, i lost almost half a day on one of my 470 rigs yesterday... windows update (since I was wary of that intel bug and wanted to patch it). Once it finished, it took me about 4 hours to get it back up and running. Yes, partly my fault cuz i forgot i had to run the pixel patcher after re-installing new drivers, which was already after running DDU in safe mode lol. But still, just a major frustrating PITA!


LOL Yeah I built 1 AMD rig had it running for about 6 months but I sold it couple days ago. From having to have stupid HDMI plugs to super slow deployment to having to flash bios and all that other crap, I just like the ease of nVidia too.

Win10 is not an issue either.

I do need to figure out a script to 1 click install that would seal the deal for me Smiley
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