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Quote from: pawanjain on September 05, 2024, 12:44:39 PM

Lol, earlier they were not in favor to support crypto and now that they Trump is gaining attention supporting crypto, Harris has started the same approach isn't it.
They are accepting crypto donations but they will forget all of that and be hesitant towards accepting crypto after the elections.

I suspect neither candidate is going to care about crypto after the election--it's mostly about a few billionaire Bitcoin whales giving them both millions right now. But Americans as a whole definitely don't care about Bitcoin as a serious political issue, compared to issues like abortion, immigration, etc.

Well, as much as I like to agree with you, I will also want to give the benefit of doubt to Trump, I don't know if it's all for political reasons - which I honestly think there is really a high chance it may be, but the man have showed genuine interest in bitcoin of late, even making out time to attend a bitcoin conference, I was also reading a news the other day and some where in there, it was mentioned that he was backing a crypto related project but on a low key.

But then again on the other hand, lets assume that both of them after either winning the election, they no longer care about bitcoin and the crypto industry, will that have any negative impact on bitcoin and the market in general?

I think there are two possible answers to that question, first answer is "it may but partially", and second answer is "no", but one thing that is certain for sure is that Bitcoin and crypto in general have existed and thrived without this people, and without them or their supports in the future, the crypto industry will still continue to stand strong.

That's true. Trump has been showing interest in bitcoin lately and as you previously said he might have hired bitcoin experts to guide him through it.
Would it impact bitcoin? Your second answer is more suitable here because I think people already know that it's not worth to trust Trump on this regard.
So even if Trump or Harris don't bother about crypto after the elections, it wouldn't impact bitcoin significantly.
We are currently seeing a minor dump in bitcoin price though and it may be because of crypto donations being exchanged for dollars. Not sure though.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on September 06, 2024, 08:30:01 AM

As for Harris, I do not know when her passion for cryptocurrency started, hers looks more like a political ambition. She may never win against Trump. I will advise all US citizens to watch carefully.

If she is forcing the passion she has for bitcoins, Faking everything all of a sudden then it is best we watch out for her because fake love is usually very dangerous. It is likely that her team has recognized the advantage that Donald Trump was having due to his affinity for bitcoins and how he is embracing it and as such they are trying to make sure that that no longer is an advantage if both of them have it. That is a suspicious behavior, and very
cynical.
The good thing about it is that as both parties are playing friendly with Bitcoin, Bitcoin is benefiting from it because it is increasing in popularity amongst people.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on September 06, 2024, 05:02:19 AM

Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/
Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

Adoption is very closer and if this could keep going then what more? This shows that gradually the dream of Satoshi nakamoto is becoming into reality.
Though it has already became a reality but just the adoption, with the way things are going and couples with the US involvement then there is a positive move.

On the contrary, I don't see anything positive from this news or from both candidates using bitcoin in their campaigns. We have no evidence that they have changed their minds and are actually interested in bitcoin or that they are just doing whatever it takes to achieve their goals. Trump or Harris are no different as they have a history of being unfriendly to crypto, and suddenly they are declaring their support for crypto when they are candidates.

In my opinion, we should wait until the election is over and open policies towards bitcoin are enacted, then we can be optimistic. For now, it is still too early to say anything.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on September 06, 2024, 05:02:19 AM

Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/
Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

Adoption is very closer and if this could keep going then what more? This shows that gradually the dream of Satoshi nakamoto is becoming into reality.
Though it has already became a reality but just the adoption, with the way things are going and couples with the US involvement then there is a positive move.

Edited to add source link of video - Donal Trump on X

Let's be vigilant if he has the convictions or if it's just a political tactic. This is Donald Trump three years ago when he said he did not like Bitcoin. However, everyone is allowed to change their views on what they think about something because change is the dynamic nature of humans. I believe that people can learn over time and perhaps Trump has learned. Of course, many of us today were chronic haters of Bitcoin until we understood it and now, we are enthusiastic about it.

As for Harris, I do not know when her passion for cryptocurrency started, hers looks more like a political ambition. She may never win against Trump. I will advise all US citizens to watch carefully.

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I truly, I truly want someone to deposit coinjoined and mixed coins to this address. That would be a lot of fun, wouldn't it? If an average Joe receives money from mixer or other privacy enhancing services, then average Joe will be in trouble but what about Harris and his supporters? Are they immune to it?
By the way, I really hope that Lazarus members will send a bitcoin or two to his address, I'll sit and watch it with my popcorn.

The president of the United States should be renamed with The shameless of the United States Cheesy

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Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/

Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

Wait....
Isn't Kamala Harris very much against it? great progress or is there something she wants to achieve? like damaging Trump vote that has received attention from the crypto community and then his opponent tries to split the vote because he feels he doesn't have enough support. If now 2 candidates try to compete for the same territory, it will only damage the crypto industry in the US. I'm sure that US citizens who already know Kamala rottenness towards crypto policies will definitely not swallow their own spit.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 06, 2024, 05:18:04 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on September 06, 2024, 05:02:19 AM

Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/
Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

Adoption is very closer and if this could keep going then what more? This shows that gradually the dream of Satoshi nakamoto is becoming into reality.
Though it has already became a reality but just the adoption, with the way things are going and couples with the US involvement then there is a positive move.

I was going to say that all of Satoshi's dreams as regards to bitcoin have already became reality long before now, and so far so good, bitcoin has been able to achieve way more than which Satoshi envisioned for it.

And it's also important we come to terms with the fact that politicians don't bring adoption to anything, what ever you see them promote is for their own selfish interests.
The masses, the people, ordinary people like you and I are the ones who bring adoption to anything.
Bitcoin gained adoption when the majority of those who come across it loved it and keyed into the idea, supporting its circulation, popularity and growth.
And certainly, bitcoin and crypto in general will achieve full adoption with or without the US government.

You are right but however, the government still have a major role to play over there because without their pronouncement to make it effective it could take longer time. But still the majority of bitcoin users keeps increase like in every single moment since it's gaining it's popularity over the globe. I will say that government are just a tools to power up the bitcoin as a legal tender where you and I can use it without any restrictions from other people. And of course the goals was already actualized even before now so if you read my post again you would understand.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 06, 2024, 05:18:04 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on September 06, 2024, 05:02:19 AM

Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/
Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

Adoption is very closer and if this could keep going then what more? This shows that gradually the dream of Satoshi nakamoto is becoming into reality.
Though it has already became a reality but just the adoption, with the way things are going and couples with the US involvement then there is a positive move.

I was going to say that all of Satoshi's dreams as regards to bitcoin have already became reality long before now, and so far so good, bitcoin has been able to achieve way more than which Satoshi envisioned for it.

And it's also important we come to terms with the fact that politicians don't bring adoption to anything, what ever you see them promote is for their own selfish interests.
The masses, the people, ordinary people like you and I are the ones who bring adoption to anything.
Bitcoin gained adoption when the majority of those who come across it loved it and keyed into the idea, supporting its circulation, popularity and growth.
And certainly, bitcoin and crypto in general will achieve full adoption with or without the US government.

It will be a bit easier though if the govs won't hold the progress, however, I agree.
It's still going to happen, the question is when, not if.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on September 06, 2024, 05:02:19 AM

Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/
Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

Adoption is very closer and if this could keep going then what more? This shows that gradually the dream of Satoshi nakamoto is becoming into reality.
Though it has already became a reality but just the adoption, with the way things are going and couples with the US involvement then there is a positive move.

I was going to say that all of Satoshi's dreams as regards to bitcoin have already became reality long before now, and so far so good, bitcoin has been able to achieve way more than which Satoshi envisioned for it.

And it's also important we come to terms with the fact that politicians don't bring adoption to anything, what ever you see them promote is for their own selfish interests.
The masses, the people, ordinary people like you and I are the ones who bring adoption to anything.
Bitcoin gained adoption when the majority of those who come across it loved it and keyed into the idea, supporting its circulation, popularity and growth.
And certainly, bitcoin and crypto in general will achieve full adoption with or without the US government.

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Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/
Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

Adoption is very closer and if this could keep going then what more? This shows that gradually the dream of Satoshi nakamoto is becoming into reality.
Though it has already became a reality but just the adoption, with the way things are going and couples with the US involvement then there is a positive move.

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Quote from: legiteum on September 05, 2024, 01:26:35 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on September 05, 2024, 12:44:39 PM

Lol, earlier they were not in favor to support crypto and now that they Trump is gaining attention supporting crypto, Harris has started the same approach isn't it.
They are accepting crypto donations but they will forget all of that and be hesitant towards accepting crypto after the elections.

I suspect neither candidate is going to care about crypto after the election--it's mostly about a few billionaire Bitcoin whales giving them both millions right now. But Americans as a whole definitely don't care about Bitcoin as a serious political issue, compared to issues like abortion, immigration, etc.

Well, as much as I like to agree with you, I will also want to give the benefit of doubt to Trump, I don't know if it's all for political reasons - which I honestly think there is really a high chance it may be, but the man have showed genuine interest in bitcoin of late, even making out time to attend a bitcoin conference, I was also reading a news the other day and some where in there, it was mentioned that he was backing a crypto related project but on a low key.

But then again on the other hand, lets assume that both of them after either winning the election, they no longer care about bitcoin and the crypto industry, will that have any negative impact on bitcoin and the market in general?

I think there are two possible answers to that question, first answer is "it may but partially", and second answer is "no", but one thing that is certain for sure is that Bitcoin and crypto in general have existed and thrived without this people, and without them or their supports in the future, the crypto industry will still continue to stand strong.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on September 04, 2024, 10:28:14 PM

I don't think it's bad news. Even if it's not her directly accepting the donations, the fact that it's the PAC supporting the Democratic party is a step, plus the fact that the crypto industry is donating to pro-crypto congressional candidates of both parties, as the article says. The best thing that could happen is that both parties end up being pro-bitcoin.

Even if Harris, is not accepting Bitcoin directly yet, if she's accepting it as campaign donations through third parties then it doesn't make any difference. In as much as she's aware that donations from PAC are paid with Bitcoin and she doesn't complain or reject it that means that she endorses it. I'm glad that the two candidates Trump and Harris, are not against Bitcoin donations in their campaigns for the US presidency. Even if either of them that will wins doesn't totally become crypto friendly that'll make the person a hypocrite for leveraging on Bitcoin to win then not supporting it.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 05, 2024, 09:40:00 PM

Harris would certainly accept all kinds of funds for his campaign. She and her team probably don't care what kind of funds they are or where they're coming from for as long as they're all going their way. She may be against Bitcoin and crypto but she's all too willing to accept them all if donated. She probably doesn't care whether the money is dirty or clean, whether they're coming from illegal drugs, trafficking, underground arms deals, and so on for as long as they could be used to finance her ambitions.

The same goes for Trump. The same goes for all politicians.

Nope they are not actually accepting crypto there's a clarification regarding on this matter written by coindesk https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/09/04/kamala-harris-is-not-directly-accepting-crypto-donations-coinbase-official-clarifies/

That really means they are avoiding heavy engagement with crypto since they are not really serious to deal with this. They only showing an interest its because they are going after for votes and make people think that they are friendly on any matters including crypto.

But remember they are democrats they hate crypto so for sure once they win provably they forget about what they say and continue their fight against crypto.

She also snubbed the invitation to speak on a bitcoin conference https://www.benzinga.com/top-stories/24/07/39959562/tyler-winklevoss-kamala-harris-snubbing-bitcoin-conference-wont-be-forgotten-industry-will-show-no-m

So everything they do know is pure manipulation and they want to confuse people to get their votes.

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Harris campaign now accepts Bitcoin hahahah Grin

I mean If i am the candidate of course Im gonna accept crypto payment aswell in return the crypto regulation not very right as it is now.

Well Crypto as campaign is good idea but I think it would be great if implement to other things like pay taxes I believe there are ton of user that gonna pay their taxes in form of crypto aswell

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on September 04, 2024, 10:28:14 PM

I don't think it's bad news. Even if it's not her directly accepting the donations, the fact that it's the PAC supporting the Democratic party is a step, plus the fact that the crypto industry is donating to pro-crypto congressional candidates of both parties, as the article says. The best thing that could happen is that both parties end up being pro-bitcoin.

The PAC is just using it as another vehicle to receive money. They don't care about cryptocurrency at all. In fact donating by crypto would just be funding the creation of policies against the adoption of crypto. I don't think it's good news.

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Harris would certainly accept all kinds of funds for his campaign. She and her team probably don't care what kind of funds they are or where they're coming from for as long as they're all going their way. She may be against Bitcoin and crypto but she's all too willing to accept them all if donated. She probably doesn't care whether the money is dirty or clean, whether they're coming from illegal drugs, trafficking, underground arms deals, and so on for as long as they could be used to finance her ambitions.

The same goes for Trump. The same goes for all politicians.

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Quote from: legiteum on September 05, 2024, 01:26:35 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on September 05, 2024, 12:44:39 PM

Lol, earlier they were not in favor to support crypto and now that they Trump is gaining attention supporting crypto, Harris has started the same approach isn't it.
They are accepting crypto donations but they will forget all of that and be hesitant towards accepting crypto after the elections.

I suspect neither candidate is going to care about crypto after the election--it's mostly about a few billionaire Bitcoin whales giving them both millions right now. But Americans as a whole definitely don't care about Bitcoin as a serious political issue, compared to issues like abortion, immigration, etc.

For Trump, that remains a question mark because the election is not over yet, so we cannot confirm or declare anything. But for Harris, this is almost certain because she will continue the policies that Biden left behind and as pawanjain said. She was never interested in bitcoin before but why suddenly change her mind when the election is about to end?

But I agree with you, US citizens care about many other issues and bitcoin is not a major factor in the election. But those who are bitcoin investors would definitely expect a pro-bitcoin candidate to win instead of an anti-bitcoin candidate because that would benefit them.

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Quote from: pawanjain on September 05, 2024, 12:44:39 PM

Lol, earlier they were not in favor to support crypto and now that they Trump is gaining attention supporting crypto, Harris has started the same approach isn't it.
They are accepting crypto donations but they will forget all of that and be hesitant towards accepting crypto after the elections.

I suspect neither candidate is going to care about crypto after the election--it's mostly about a few billionaire Bitcoin whales giving them both millions right now. But Americans as a whole definitely don't care about Bitcoin as a serious political issue, compared to issues like abortion, immigration, etc.

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Lol, earlier they were not in favor to support crypto and now that they Trump is gaining attention supporting crypto, Harris has started the same approach isn't it.
They are accepting crypto donations but they will forget all of that and be hesitant towards accepting crypto after the elections.

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Quote from: legiteum on September 04, 2024, 09:54:23 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/top-super-pac-backing-kamala-harris-accept-cryptocurrency-donations-2024-09-05/

Now both major US candidates accept Bitcoin for donations. Great progress for Bitcoin acceptance.

I believe it's a PAC accepting donations in crypto for Kamala Harris' political campaign. Not directly. Talk about how serious she is in incorporating crypto in her agenda. Harris saw Trump profiting from his little crypto venture, and decided to grab a piece of the action. I don't think such "last night" move will boost her chances of winning this year's presidential race.

For what I know, the vast majority of crypto supporters are sided with Trump. So good luck with that. BTC is going down in Fiat terms, so donations made into either candidate will be worth a lot less than before. Assuming they didn't convert BTC to USD immediately. This will be an interesting election to watch. Here's hoping for the best.

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