Topic: Has Bruce talked at all about the accusations of fraud against him? - page 4. (Read 6355 times)

This is an interesting post more or less on the same lines of what I was saying. I think Mr. Wagner's reply on that thread honestly worsen his image and credibility. Agreed there is no proof that he is a pedophile, but for me as stated, this is beyond any reasonable doubt.

Will lets see they pay a "fee" to be there hmmmm I wonder if any of them get paid to do what they do ? I'm just doing what SA does when it comes to name calling. You can't be objective you got your head so far up SA's ass you wouldn't know what a troll is if it hit you in the face.

Bbit> You said that you were on an episode of the bitcoin show. Which episode was that, and what did you talk about?

I think they're providing us with a invaluable service, none of this fraud stuff came up before the SA people started to investigate it.  

Bbit, I think you've got your head in the sand.

Where in the blue blazes do you get the idea that they are paid to troll people??  Who pays them? Why? I don't understand where you've gotten this idea from.

And please, don't start with the name calling, it wont help anything.

Even untrue statements are not libellous/defamatory unless, in addition to being proved false, can be demonstrated to have caused harm AND made without reasonable research into its truthfulness.

yes, they are paid actually - you didn't know that ?  they are paid to troll dummy.

What do you want to know ? I'm transparent you aren't   your a plant from SA to spew hate about bitcoin and other members ... the board isn't a place to decide that the courts are your ilk need to stfu and get off this board ...you provide no value  at all  nobody can tell me what value you bring?

Have you ever even been to the SA forums?  Have you even looked at the bitcoin thread there?  I doubt it the way you speak of it.

You can call me whatever you like Bbit, Ill let my posts speak for themselves, but you did not answer the question, do you honestly think people from SA are PAID by some entity to come here and discredit bitcoin users?

I am a member now, yes. I've just registered an account.

As for stupid correlations, I'm sorry, but you are deluded and very wrong. If you actually check the SA thread, you will find some water-tight correlations based on facts and evidence - either from Bruce, or the people he scammed, or from court records.

And defamation/libel is only defamation/libel if it is untrue. I registered using my real name and real email address by the way. I'm a 41 year old IT specialist btw. I notice that you are hiding behind anonymity.

I also notice that you didn't answer my question bbit. The lack of answers speaks volumes imho.

Do I need to watch the Bitcoin Show episode in question to find out who you are?

ok.

Molly, don't you find it ironic that is SA's whole goal as  group so don't lecture me about trolling - troll.

I thought a lot of the child sex allegations were pretty out of line, tenuous at best, but for the most part completely unfounded. I created this account to throw in my 2c in defense before I realized I wouldn't be able to post outside of this forum.

Then I read his statements on the issue. Still continuing to deny Pattaya's massive problem with child prostitution. Trying to characterize New York City as being more lenient on child sex, and even the failure to acknowledge that prostitution is illegal. Flat-out lying and saying that the 'three-pronged attack' words were not his. Talking about "38 year olds" being called 'boy' and being "older than he is", when he's 50 years old himself and writing in a thread about virgins and newbies.

No, these in no way prove or hint anything to discredit his claims that he is not a pedophile. I will not state or even imply that he has any desire for underage men. But they reflect a kind of dishonesty and spin that I don't feel comfortable with. What would be wrong with making a statement like "Child sex is a problem in Pattaya, but I have never done such a thing"? Not to mention continuing to claim Pattaya was chosen first for its suitability for a Bitcoin Expo first, rather than recreation.

Then the fraud stuff came up. Bruce Wagner of OnlyOneTV is, without a doubt, undeniably, the Bruce Wagner of Bold Funding, the company that scammed and defrauded many families out of their homes and stole at least $125,000.

This is not a man that should be the face of Bitcoin. And it makes me very suspicious about his unwavering support of mybitcoin, something that was discussed and deemed suspicious by certain posters several months ago.

I'm still jail-locked in this subforum. Could someone please post the bbit/onlyonetv connection in some of the other threads where he is defending Bruce?

Someone on SomethingAwful has screencapped the post in question:



I'm seriously going to be signing up to SA. It looks like an amazing place.

Wow, makes sense now doesnt it.  Bbit, how much are you being paid to steer suspicion away from Bruce?

Oh wow, good find. This is a quote of the post in question:


So thank you for answering my question. So bbit, are you Ed or Manny?

You know, this is actually an excellent question and.... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.254396

I think Bruce is guilty. The courts have ruled that he has been guilty of fraud, prostitution, speeding etc. The evidence is there for all to see.

I'm not from SomethingAwful, but I know enough about SA to point out that you calling them 'paid SA hitmen' is ludicrous. Somethingawful is a large and well known community that has been around for 11 years.

So, my question to you is what have you got to lose by Bruce being exposed for the scammer and fraudster that he is? Are you complicit in his crimes?

I'm off to register an account at SomethingAwful, and hopefully I can earn some money being a paid 'hitman' lol. I wonder if they pay their bounties in BTC.

Bbit, do you honestly think people are paid to come here and discredit others?  Trying to have a decent discussion here about an important matter and we could do without your trolling.

I bet most of the people who think Bruce is Guilty are SA members ...I asked for raise of hands earlier and about the whole thread was all paid SA hitmen ...goal to destroy individuals and this forum.

I've been following the recent stuff about Bruce, and I'm sorry, but you cannot ignore the evidence that can be directly linked back to Bruce.

[Edit] Stuff removed from the post. I might have got users mixed up