Topic: Has Bruce talked at all about the accusations of fraud against him? - page 5. (Read 6355 times)

Dayfall, can you explain to us why the messenger should be shot?  Should whistle blowers be shot? Should police informants be shot?

It appears you think all of these accusations are 100% unfounded, is that so?  Can you tell us why you have come to this conclusion despite the mounting evidence?

I understand unfounded accusations can be ruinous, however, after reading the something awful thread, how can you believe Bruce is NOT a serial scammer and quite possibly something far worse?

Hello,

I am unsure if the monkey reference is directed towards me, but note I don't know the messenger, nor I know who the messenger is, other than have heard they might be involved with the mybitcoin scam. I will get myself more informed on that matter and then post my impression regarding that subject, but for now, I am simply pointing out material that is out there on the internet (some of it official, such as his conviction by the state of Illinois). I am not even talking about the message per se.

I think the messenger should be shot.  That being said, wild monkeys throw poo the best.

Is Bruce talking to anyone, anywhere?

I guess I have seen some things on that thread that are inconsequential (such as his homosexuality) and some things that are very alarming. It appears that he has been convicted of mortgage fraud in Illinoi, furthermore, what really concern me actually was his replies to some of the statements, like specifying he was just "replying" to the guy talking about having a sexual "three prong attack" with a minor.

What is worrisome about this is that no decent person (IMHO) will be reading a forum like that, nor taking the time to reply on how to properly tip these underage prostitutes.

Then he goes on to say that the situation in there is "very sad". If this is the case, why do we, as a community, want to stimulate their economy by bringing a convention to such a horrid place that clearly condones underage prostitution and human trafficking amongst other things?

Finally, there is a twitter of him describing Pattaya as "Paradise on earth", but now he claims the situation is really sad in there? I wouldn't want to vacation in a place with such a display of human misery and exploitation. What is so paradisaical about that?

He also claimed on ones of his replies that he ultimately "doesn't care" where the conference gets organized, however, from ALL the places in the world, why pick this one? And how does that last statement conjures up with saying "It is like paradise on earth".

This, coupled with the fact that I believe the NY conference was purposefully and deceitfully sold to sponsors (did you guys saw CNN in there? or all those media outlets they were supposed to be there) makes me believe the following:

1. Bruce Wagner, at its best, is a is a convicted scammer. Not only a scammer, but scamming poor families trying to get help to not loose their homes. At its worst, he is a child molester who solicits and pays for underage boys to satisfied his wicked pleasures contributing to perpetuate one of the most perverse places in the world.
2. As for whether he is a pedophile or not, some scream "Show me concrete proof". This is a fallacy. Not even a court of law needs irrefutable proof to convict somebody, they only need for the jury to be convinced "beyond reasonable doubt" of a certain fact.
3. In revising the material posted online about Bruce's twitters, his participation in that despicable forum (admitted by himself), his contradictory statements regarding Pattaya, and several other comments, I can conclude, WAY BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that the man is a degenerate, a pedophile, and a promoter and user of underage prostitution.

I would like to close by saying that this is not about homosexuals, at all. This is about adults, paying for underage sex with child slaves, because at the end of the day, that's what they are regarding of sex, or sexual orientation. I am in fact a volunteer for GLAAD, and as a worker for gay rights, people like Wagner simply makes me want to cry.


TO MTGOX ET AL

I will respectfully ask all companies doing business with him to withdraw their sponsorship and support. Even if the guy is NOT a pedophile and a scammer, you really want to have your name associated with somebody advising on forums how to properly tip an underage prostitute? HE HAS ADMITTED THAT WAS HIS POST. Any company supporting this, it is at the very least supporting a very questionable person.

Shad0wBitz

I dont think it matters who levels the accusation, dont shoot the messenger etc..

Regardless of what you think of that forum, if you read the thread, they have uncovered some extremely worrysome things about Bruce's past, which I think we all should get clarified before deciding to do business with him.  Or letting him become our freaking spokesperson!

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