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Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 249. (Read 880461 times)

legendary
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So, it has been 9 days since HashFast last updated us telling us "We’ve Started Shipping!". It would be nice for an official update of some sort... such as, have you shipped more than the first 2 units... and when the hell will the rest of them ship? You are starting to become worse than BFL with your shitty customer service.

I remember BFL doing the exact same thing. Announce they started shipping and them going quiet for a couple of weeks.
hero member
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Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.
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Did it die after 9 days? I am seeing zeros for over 3 hours. I guess at least it is still under warranty ... barely.

Nah! Probably moved it, along with 500 others, to another pool. In Bitcoin-speak, it's called a three-prong attack. Search the term on this forum if you're not familiar with the reference.

Luke said that his Colo PC is down and he can't get to it right now. So it appears to not be the unit.
legendary
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Did it die after 9 days? I am seeing zeros for over 3 hours. I guess at least it is still under warranty ... barely.

Nah! Probably moved it, along with 500 others, to another pool. In Bitcoin-speak, it's called a three-prong attack. Search the term on this forum if you're not familiar with the reference.
hero member
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Going over the same thing is getting old.

As for the PCB, I'm not sure why they seem to be having so many issues, KnC and "others" have demonstrated that the PCB is the easiest part of the ASICs.  I've even read that documentation they released on how their system would work and even though I'm no engineer in ICs it was pretty clear when it came to describing the functionality.  Also it seems that there is enough information for others to start on a design of their own PCB if HF ends up selling just chips.



Hi Timmah

Sam from KnC always tells me that the asic is the easy bit.. and the pcbs are hard!

Sam says 'power in, heat out' are the hardest things to deal with...

hero member
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Not that I have any pertikuler reason to defend hashfast, but PCBs get "difficult" over a couple or three  hundred Mhz... one of the reasons why memory controllers went on-die in modern CPUs.

Need to shove data in excess of those speeds? Go license some DDR, QDR etc IP.

The data rates in and out of these chips are very easy to handle.  88 bytes / 4 billion hashes in, and 4 bytes for valid nonces out, which can have arbitrarily large difficulty.

High clock rates are difficult because you need to have clean power for internal signal integrity.  But board level I/O isn't bad.

The high power and resulting thermal loads are the difficult issues with this generation of chips.
hero member
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So, it has been 9 days since HashFast last updated us telling us "We’ve Started Shipping!". It would be nice for an official update of some sort... such as, have you shipped more than the first 2 units... and when the hell will the rest of them ship? You are starting to become worse than BFL with your shitty customer service.
hero member
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Hodl!
Not that I have any pertikuler reason to defend hashfast, but PCBs get "difficult" over a couple or three  hundred Mhz... one of the reasons why memory controllers went on-die in modern CPUs.

Need to shove data in excess of those speeds? Go license some DDR, QDR etc IP.
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I wonder how customers successfully winning legally against the n companies behind this fits into this (draft of) a plan. Maybe it doesent. Maybe customers stand a canche only because they failed to make a workable PCB by the end of the year, only because they were 2 weeks late. God blesses those difficult PCB.

HF, looking forward for some sweet marketing announcement from your side, its starting to getting boring here.

Going over the same thing is getting old.

As for the PCB, I'm not sure why they seem to be having so many issues, KnC and "others" have demonstrated that the PCB is the easiest part of the ASICs.  I've even read that documentation they released on how their system would work and even though I'm no engineer in ICs it was pretty clear when it came to describing the functionality.  Also it seems that there is enough information for others to start on a design of their own PCB if HF ends up selling just chips.

Maybe the "design team" did not KISS, did not have the experience/skill to develop a IC (perhaps this is their first ASIC?) and may not have optimized the ASIC design in the best way possible, causing other issues requiring major "corrective" components on the PCB to ensure the chip will at least produce 400Ghs.

Then they also blame the substrate for delays but no other ASIC designers seems to have that problem... I have not looked into the entire process of building an IC but I thought that the substrate is part of the process where they get the wafer made... or are those big silicon wafers that we see just flat on both sides and has to be sent to another factory to be cut and packaged?

The more information that comes out is just showing how inexperienced they are in the IC and PCB production process as well.

Could be the reason that they changed the MPP from chips that other companies would make PCBs for to just sending the whole chip with their PCB as it may reveal how much they messed up in making the ASIC and have no choice but to compensate with the PCB design.  Who knows, I'm not an EE, this is just what I've observed and these are just IMHO.

On another note, I may be able to still have access to my skip tracing account (Choice point/Accurint/etc) but it would cost (from when I last checked years ago) $75 just to get phone numbers and addresses, age, relatives and what not in a general search, which is unlimited for just one month.  If a full report is run, which includes any public record of criminal history or anything like that (including all known associates and family all the way to the 3rd degree) would cost at least $25-$35. 

Lawyers also have access to this but if people think it may help I might be able to provide this to people who want to get more information on these people.  If so, some donations to cover the costs would be nice although if I come up with nothing there would be no refund...
legendary
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Then everyone will complain it's overpriced.  Obviously if you have something in hand that nobody has ordered you won't sell it for less than it's expected to generate.

1.  Collect a bunch of pre-order money to pay for NRE, down payments on equipment/component purchases, down payments to foundries, other up-front costs, data center equipment.

2.  Get 1 million chips made

3.  Make and ship 100,000 fancy, pretty miners to pre-order customers.
3a.  OPTIONAL:  Trickle out the customer miners while you "test" them on your data center/mining pool.

4.  Sell  500,000 chips for hefty profit.
EDIT:  4a.  Sell a few on-hand pretty miners "off the shelf" for nice profit, but less than generating potential, to earn your PR merit badge.

5.  Make the rest of the chips into low-cost, no-frills, no-case, miners for your own self - mine like 14 motherfuckers in the nice data center that the pre-order money built.

6.  Bite your tongue while everybody wonders why the hashrate goes up.

7.  Profit



I wonder how customers successfully winning legally against the n companies behind this fits into this (draft of) a plan. Maybe it doesent. Maybe customers stand a canche only because they failed to make a workable PCB by the end of the year, only because they were 2 weeks late. God blesses those difficult PCB.

HF, looking forward for some sweet marketing announcement from your side, its starting to getting boring here.
sr. member
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Did it die after 9 days? I am seeing zeros for over 3 hours. I guess at least it is still under warranty ... barely.
legendary
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The folks at HashFast appear to be playing games with peoples money, their own Terms of Agreement and refusing refund request to at least one person when they were notified (through their own means) of non-delivery and an appropriate refund request.

(Tick Tock, they are gonna lose alot more than the respect of their customers.)

that's pretty clear ! Wink
legendary
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Seems I spoke too soon, USPS made another attempt (After saying they were returning it!) and it went through, and I also received an email confirmation that they received it.

Same here. Just received a confirmation from Erin that my refund request has been received (both email and paper).

+1 for 'doxing' on a separate thread.
Did she say anything alarming?

Like they wouldn't accept anything but their form?

That's what Erin is saying:

Thank you for your email. We have very much appreciated your patience. At this time, we are only able to process refunds that accompany the attached form, that you should have received yesterday evening.

Please fill out the attached form, scan, and attach in reply to this email and we will be happy to expedite your refund.

Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Erin

Customer Service Manager

--
HashFast Refunds
[email protected]

Let me be the first to state the obvious.

That is obviously illegal. If it is not, it really should be.

The folks at HashFast appear to be playing games with peoples money, their own Terms of Agreement and refusing refund request to at least one person when they were notified (through their own means) of non-delivery and an appropriate refund request.

(Tick Tock, they are gonna lose alot more than the respect of their customers.)
sr. member
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I dropped by the HashFast booth at CES today. No hardware. Not even anyone staffing the booth. Did they even bother to show up?

Was there a KNCminer booth?
legendary
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I dropped by the HashFast booth at CES today. No hardware. Not even anyone staffing the booth. Did they even bother to show up?
legendary
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Here's another lawyer that would consider taking a fee instead of a retainer if enough participants sign up.

http://www.bakermarquart.com/attorneys/brian_klein

Someone eloquent enough to speak the legal lingo might want to check him out to give him a quick call. Not sure what % he'd consider. Just in case....



We're already all setup to take on additional people with our existing mass action.  If interested, simply email [email protected] your contact info and order confirmation.

Done and done.
legendary
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Please fill out the attached form, scan, and attach in reply to this email and we will be happy to expedite your refund.

Very Happy!  We now have 40 or so of your BTC, we have a potential plaintiff off the books, and we have the parts for your miner on hand that we can mine with for ourselves.

WinWinWinning!
legendary
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I just got my funds successfully transfered back into my account.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Did HF say "thank you" for the $39,000?
hero member
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Thus, Erin is still on the payroll.

Yes, I don't know where the rumor that Erin quit came from.

...I do remember reading somewhere that Samantha (Owusu) left HF, so perhaps that caused the confusion?
legendary
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Seems I spoke too soon, USPS made another attempt (After saying they were returning it!) and it went through, and I also received an email confirmation that they received it.

Same here. Just received a confirmation from Erin that my refund request has been received (both email and paper).

+1 for 'doxing' on a separate thread.
Did she say anything alarming?

Like they wouldn't accept anything but their form?

That's what Erin is saying:

Thank you for your email. We have very much appreciated your patience. At this time, we are only able to process refunds that accompany the attached form, that you should have received yesterday evening.

Please fill out the attached form, scan, and attach in reply to this email and we will be happy to expedite your refund.

Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Erin

Customer Service Manager

--
HashFast Refunds
[email protected]


Here is the one I got:


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Good Afternoon,

This email is to let you know that we have received your refund request via email and mail.

Sincerely,

Erin

Customer Service Manager

--
HashFast Refunds
[email protected]

Thus, Erin is still on the payroll.
hero member
Activity: 761
Merit: 500
Mine Silent, Mine Deep
Seems I spoke too soon, USPS made another attempt (After saying they were returning it!) and it went through, and I also received an email confirmation that they received it.

Same here. Just received a confirmation from Erin that my refund request has been received (both email and paper).

+1 for 'doxing' on a separate thread.
Did she say anything alarming?

Like they wouldn't accept anything but their form?

That's what Erin is saying:

Thank you for your email. We have very much appreciated your patience. At this time, we are only able to process refunds that accompany the attached form, that you should have received yesterday evening.

Please fill out the attached form, scan, and attach in reply to this email and we will be happy to expedite your refund.

Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Erin

Customer Service Manager

--
HashFast Refunds
[email protected]


Here is the one I got:


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Good Afternoon,

This email is to let you know that we have received your refund request via email and mail.

Sincerely,

Erin

Customer Service Manager

--
HashFast Refunds
[email protected]
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