HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 337.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on December 25, 2013, 06:15:11 AM

A slightly OT example: For those following along at home who don't get why HF batch 1 customers are so unhappy about their "october" batch 1 units, compare: Instead of paying 55 BTC months ago for a 400GH HF batch 1 unit with uncertain delivery they could have sat comfortably on their coin and today ordered 3.1 TH/s of antminer for immediate delivery for the same price (or just got 360GH/s for 6.3 BTC). Even figuring it in terms of USD, the little antminer devices are lower cost per GH/s than hashfast batch 1 devices which are still not shipping.

*sigh....

Yes I wish I had an early KnC order and a Batch1 Avalon. But I didn't. I had a batch 2/3 and same thing happened to that Batch 3. Still pissed. At least I didn't have BFL.

In bitcoin mining one in the hand beats two in the bush any day... Pre-orders are simply fail, even KnC would have been fail if BTC hadn't appreciated....

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A slightly OT example: For those following along at home who don't get why HF batch 1 customers are so unhappy about their "october" batch 1 units, compare: Instead of paying 55 BTC months ago for a 400GH HF batch 1 unit with uncertain delivery they could have sat comfortably on their coin and today ordered 3.1 TH/s of antminer for immediate delivery for the same price (or just got 360GH/s for 6.3 BTC). Even figuring it in terms of USD, the little antminer devices are lower cost per GH/s than hashfast batch 1 devices which are still not shipping.

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No need to be in each others hair. If ice is willing to forgive them for late delay, then that's up to him. But the majority are pissed because they lied and it hit people at personal level including me. Someone like ceDavid and gmaxwell have put alot of trust and investment in to this company from what I can gather. All they can give back is updates that are not inline with the customers demands. They know they can find us here. But refuse to comment or send a email to buyers personally, not even an apology. They dates have come and gone, they will not ship let's make that clear. Like I said previously enjoy you holiday season and merry Christmas to everyone.
I hope people will take this case to court and win. best of luck to all

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If HF claims against us that they where for some reason not producing PCBs at that time, we can easily prove it using that video (google is even worse than facebook, they keep a copy of everything).

But since that i doubt this will happen, we don't need to worry for now.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on December 25, 2013, 03:27:00 AM

I don't think anyone really thinks the video was faked— it was pretty clearly the hashfast pcb. Though I'd certainly like to see the video again. Care to re-post it iCEBREAKER or is being helpful not part of your repertoire?

If Icebeaker wanted to be really helpful, he could do us a favor by deleting his account. Trolls not be welcome here Cheesy

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I don't think anyone really thinks the video was faked— it was pretty clearly the hashfast pcb. Though I'd certainly like to see the video again. Care to re-post it iCEBREAKER or is being helpful not part of your repertoire?

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Quote from: stompix on December 25, 2013, 01:39:53 AM

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Iceshill
-it's time for ... bla bla bla
-it's time for ... bla bla bla

NO , It's only one time , and it's time for HF to start shipping.

So you agree with gmaxwell and phinnaeus' suspicions that the video was faked (like the MOON LANDING???) and contains evidence vital to proving HashFast's nefarious master plan to enslave humanity and kill Satoshi?

Good. Now I may safely put you on 'Ignore.'

PLONK.

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Iceshill
-it's time for ... bla bla bla
-it's time for ... bla bla bla

NO , It's only one time , and it's time for HF to start shipping.

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Quote from: jspielberg on December 24, 2013, 09:02:34 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on December 24, 2013, 08:55:48 PM

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 24, 2013, 08:46:36 PM

Anyone save a copy? Might have something interesting in the background. e.g. dates displayed on machine readouts.

After I viewed it, I spent close to 30 minutes viewing similar videos, feeling that I've viewed segments of it before, but abandoned the search. Something didn't feel quite right about it, but I'm not at all versed in the process.

Hey PG, the board definitely looked like the prototype/schematic they were circulating. I would be skeptical that they faked the video. Now whether the board actually works at intended is a different matter entirely.

The boards being assembled in the video was most certainly HashFast's.

One must be very stupid, very paranoid, or both, to think it worth investigating frame-by-frame for possible subterfuge.

This is a teachable moment.

It's time for gmaxwell to learn how to stop a thread from becoming a wildly speculative trollfest.

And it's time for Phinnaeus to stop indulging his every knee-jerk suspicion as if he were Sherlock.

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"In Bitcoin mining time is everything" (c) Simon Barber

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGtcdtIq468

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Quote from: Easy2Mine on December 24, 2013, 09:13:15 PM

Dammit, why they use so much different accounts.

That must be it, it's not the content of the video that was the problem, it's the organization of them. Maybe someone quit from the HF team and they were closing YouTube account handled by that person. I doubt we'll see the insiders confessions here, he/she is probably legally tied not to do so.

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einc.io

This is their real account with the first video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rl6L8nt3Hc&feature=youtu.be

The other account was registered under a different name than Hashfast

Dammit, why they use so much different accounts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGtcdtIq468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QURuDM1P0E

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Quote from: Roy Badami on December 24, 2013, 09:05:39 PM

Quote from: cedivad on December 24, 2013, 07:59:36 PM

Are you talking about the video that showed the whole process of producing the boards?
Why would one take it down? Are they getting ready to deny in court that they where able to produce/that they produced those boards?

(numble numble, maybe it's just to confuse us)

If this was a video taken in a third party production facility, then most obvious reason to take it down would be that they didn't have the proper permissions to shoot it in the first place - I gather from other projects that some facilities have fairly strict rules on photography.

From the quality of the production, I don't see how the facility wouldn't have been aware that filming was taking place, let alone know where and how it was going to be viewed.

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Quote from: jspielberg on December 24, 2013, 09:02:34 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on December 24, 2013, 08:55:48 PM

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 24, 2013, 08:46:36 PM

Anyone save a copy? Might have something interesting in the background. e.g. dates displayed on machine readouts.

After I viewed it, I spent close to 30 minutes viewing similar videos, feeling that I've viewed segments of it before, but abandoned the search. Something didn't feel quite right about it, but I'm not at all versed in the process.

Hey PG, the board definitely looked like the prototype/schematic they were circulating. I would be skeptical that they faked the video. Now whether the board actually works at intended is a different matter entirely.

Is it possible to have some outfit run only one board for filming purposes, regardless if the end result is used for any capacity?

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Quote from: cedivad on December 24, 2013, 07:59:36 PM

Are you talking about the video that showed the whole process of producing the boards?
Why would one take it down? Are they getting ready to deny in court that they where able to produce/that they produced those boards?

(numble numble, maybe it's just to confuse us)

If this was a video taken in a third party production facility, then most obvious reason to take it down would be that they didn't have the proper permissions to shoot it in the first place - I gather from other projects that some facilities have fairly strict rules on photography.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on December 24, 2013, 08:55:48 PM

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 24, 2013, 08:46:36 PM

Anyone save a copy? Might have something interesting in the background. e.g. dates displayed on machine readouts.

After I viewed it, I spent close to 30 minutes viewing similar videos, feeling that I've viewed segments of it before, but abandoned the search. Something didn't feel quite right about it, but I'm not at all versed in the process.

Hey PG, the board definitely looked like the prototype/schematic they were circulating. I would be skeptical that they faked the video. Now whether the board actually works at intended is a different matter entirely.

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Well you have to give them props that the new video didn't document a screw up and halt in the middle of the process. That is clearly some progress from the original.

Still strange that they are so quiet. I would have thought they would be crowing about every little thing. They have at least one machine running at 400+ GH/s, that we wouldn't have believed was real until gateway's visit.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on December 24, 2013, 08:46:36 PM

Anyone save a copy? Might have something interesting in the background. e.g. dates displayed on machine readouts.

After I viewed it, I spent close to 30 minutes viewing similar videos, feeling that I've viewed segments of it before, but abandoned the search. Something didn't feel quite right about it, but I'm not at all versed in the process.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on December 24, 2013, 08:46:36 PM

Anyone save a copy? Might have something interesting in the background. e.g. dates displayed on machine readouts.

Nope didn't see any dates on paperwork or pcs. Maybe it's because they basically have shown no progress since the 8th when they posted the last pcb assembly video.

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Anyone save a copy? Might have something interesting in the background. e.g. dates displayed on machine readouts.

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