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Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 393. (Read 880461 times)

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Gerald Davis
so looks like they made there 400ghash mark. You sure its only 4 dies?

Yes it is 4 dies per "chip".  96 double nonce cores per die or 768 hashes per clock.

This is also clearly visible on the PCB photo.



The big brown square in the middle is the substrate which forms the base of the entire chip package.  The 4 squares on the substrate are the 4 dies.  Just about everything else on the green PCB is what is required to funnel that much power into that small chip.  I have to give them credit it is a pretty clean design.  There is a 6 pin PCIe power connector at each end of the board currently not populated in this photo.  Each half of the board essentially supplies power for two of the cores.  The heat sink mounting holes are standard (looks like Intel hole spacing) so any off the shelf cooling component could be used without any custom work needed.

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lets see if the keep the 500ghs overclockable. Would be nice to have a surprise and get 500ghs out of the box and 600 overclockable

As pointed out IF it is ~400 GH/s at 0.74V well that is incredibly low voltage.  0.85V would be 15% higher voltage, pushing it to 0.90V would be 22% higher.  Clock rate should scale at least linearly with voltage increase (probably super linearly) albeit at lower efficiency (J/GH).  I am not making a prediction on how much they can push it.  Remember power usage in semiconductors increases by the square of the voltage increase and the chip already uses a lot of power in a small package.  At some point you run into limits on how much power the PCB can deliver and how much power (heat) the cooling system can remove.

Still as tacotime pointed out the chip at 0.74V is a good sign.  If they were struggling to get 400 GH/s at 0.90V that would be a bad sign as they would already be pushing the limits of what the chip can handle.
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Gerald Davis
never seen a 5 days shipping from usa to france , man ...

If you ship a package with DHL or UPS from the USA on Friday it's guaranteed to arrive on Monday in Brussels. France should not be any different. That is 4 days max (Friday evening pickup, Monday noon delivery)

The closer it gets to Christmas the more you can throw any express delivery dates out the window unfortunately.

Sadly true but after Christmas is a different story and that still gives them a couple days.  None of this excuses HashFast blatant lying on shipping timelines.  I am now convinced they knew from day 1 they had no chance of shipping before late late late December and simply lied to secure sales at a higher price point.  Hashfast would still have gotten sales but not at >$10 per GH/s if they were honest and gave a realistic shipping timeframe of mid to late Dec for Batch 1.   They lied in order to profit from their customers victims.  Pure and simple.
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so looks like they made there 400ghash mark. You sure its only 4 dies?

lets see if the keep the 500ghs overclockable. Would be nice to have a surprise and get 500ghs out of the box and 600 overclockable

0.74 V is below 28 nm high performance specs for TSMC, which have typical voltages of 0.85 V.  So if they are hitting 400 GH/s there, we should still have a lot of headroom.
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What about the guys that are responsible for this spike?

Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

KnC November Batch. If HF would test stuff they would post proof.

Obviously the question is to mister Iceshill , I won't quote somebody who is in the ignore list of 90% people interested in this thread.

Avenger is just a child compared to the IceTard.

I really don't get it!
Because some asic manufacturers screw things up, we should be happy we are not   entirely?
If 20 peoples gOt killed on the streets yesterday  am I supposed to be happy that I only got mugged?

Hey , look , that guy lost 10k$ , you should be happy you lost 1k$?!?!?
Let's throw a party ,we have no reason at all to celebrate but some people are worse than us so we should feel great! PARTYYYYYY!

Where is the happiness in your quote(s)?

Of course in my quotes there can't be any happiness. But as I stated previously , it seems that some iceshill thinks we should be happy because others are having problems with their delivery date also.
Since I won't quote this guy , and I was both tired and sick of everything yesterday I didn't pay too much attention and didn't make a separate post.
legendary
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so looks like they made there 400ghash mark. You sure its only 4 dies?

lets see if the keep the 500ghs overclockable. Would be nice to have a surprise and get 500ghs out of the box and 600 overclockable
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What do you think you can tweak on a PCB where everything is soldered and you have no magic switches?

Thus the theory that this is all in software domain, and they should be moving forward with the production run of PCBs (just make sure the capacitors stay on  Grin)
legendary
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What do you think you can tweak on a PCB where everything is soldered and you have no magic switches?
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GN chip bringup - Now up to 96GH per die, 0.74v.

https://twitter.com/HashFast


Looks like they are getting closer to advertised specs.  384 GHs now.  I don't know if this sort of testing is all software or tweaks to the PCB.  My guess would be software in which case they can start the production hashing module run.
legendary
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GN chip bringup - Now up to 96GH per die, 0.74v.
If they where legit they could really start shipping on the 13th.

On the off topic side, DHL is amazing.
legendary
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never seen a 5 days shipping from usa to france , man ...

If you ship a package with DHL or UPS from the USA on Friday it's guaranteed to arrive on Monday in Brussels. France should not be any different. That is 4 days max (Friday evening pickup, Monday noon delivery)

The closer it gets to Christmas the more you can throw any express delivery dates out the window unfortunately.
hero member
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GN chip bringup - wound it up to 81.6GH per die so far!

https://twitter.com/HashFast

4 dies right? So 360 GH/s?

legendary
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never seen a 5 days shipping from usa to france , man ...

If you ship a package with DHL or UPS from the USA on Friday it's guaranteed to arrive on Monday in Brussels. France should not be any different. That is 4 days max (Friday evening pickup, Monday noon delivery)
legendary
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OK  we are today  11/12/2013 ,  i'm in france  :so..... it's impossible to have a  delivery for 31/12/2013., since hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....
No, this is wrong. We will have to wait at least the 25 for this conclusion.

http://compass.ups.com/ups-holiday-calendar/
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Trustless IceColdWallet
I think they will deliver empty rig´s. They wrote: "We deliver before 31th of dec 2013" YES.
But what? Yeah empty Rig´s. Ohhh, we forgot to put the pcb boards inside.
sr. member
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OK  we are today  11/12/2013 ,  i'm in france  :so..... it's impossible to have a  delivery for 31/12/2013., since hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....
No, this is wrong. We will have to wait at least the 25 for this conclusion.

True that if there is bad news, we can expect it late on the 24th, California time.  Hashfast aren't PR geniuses, but they are smart enough to know how to avoid a news cycle.
sr. member
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That is quite rich...  "...mainly in my two epic gold threads"

you can pick 100 quotes out of that shillfest
legendary
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What about the guys that are responsible for this spike?

Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

KnC November Batch. If HF would test stuff they would post proof.

Obviously the question is to mister Iceshill , I won't quote somebody who is in the ignore list of 90% people interested in this thread.

Avenger is just a child compared to the IceTard.

I really don't get it!
Because some asic manufacturers screw things up, we should be happy we are not   entirely?
If 20 peoples gOt killed on the streets yesterday  am I supposed to be happy that I only got mugged?

Hey , look , that guy lost 10k$ , you should be happy you lost 1k$?!?!?
Let's throw a party ,we have no reason at all to celebrate but some people are worse than us so we should feel great! PARTYYYYYY!

Where is the happiness in your quote(s)?
legendary
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Who said that the trolling from the HF crew would have been amazing when they would have failed to deliver by the end of the year? I feel that coming.
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I really don't get it!
Because some asic manufacturers screw things up, we should be happy we are not   entirely?
If 20 peoples gOt killed on the streets yesterday  am I supposed to be happy that I only got mugged?

Hey , look , that guy lost 10k$ , you should be happy you lost 1k$?!?!?
Let's throw a party ,we have no reason at all to celebrate but some people are worse than us so we should feel great! PARTYYYYYY!

It's more than just schadenfreude.
When competing companies deliver product, that product competes for a slice of the same cake we all have to split when we mine.
The coin mined by competition's miners, in other words, comes out of your pocket.  If they don't deliver -- more cake for you. 

hero member
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In other news...

In other news...More cake for KNC users  Grin
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