HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 394.

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Quote from: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 07:34:13 PM

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I really don't get it!
Because some asic manufacturers screw things up, we should be happy we are not entirely?
If 20 peoples gOt killed on the streets yesterday am I supposed to be happy that I only got mugged?

Hey , look , that guy lost 10k$ , you should be happy you lost 1k$?!?!?
Let's throw a party ,we have no reason at all to celebrate but some people are worse than us so we should feel great! PARTYYYYYY!

It's more than just schadenfreude.
When competing companies deliver product, that product competes for a slice of the same cake we all have to split when we mine.
The coin mined by competition's miners, in other words, comes out of your pocket. If they don't deliver -- more cake for you.

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Quote from: RoadStress on December 10, 2013, 07:19:38 PM

Quote from: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 07:12:00 PM

What about the guys that are responsible for this spike?

Quote from: RoadStress on December 10, 2013, 05:25:28 PM

Quote from: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 05:11:52 PM

Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

KnC November Batch. If HF would test stuff they would post proof.

Obviously the question is to mister Iceshill , I won't quote somebody who is in the ignore list of 90% people interested in this thread.

Avenger is just a child compared to the IceTard.

I really don't get it!
Because some asic manufacturers screw things up, we should be happy we are not entirely?
If 20 peoples gOt killed on the streets yesterday am I supposed to be happy that I only got mugged?

Hey , look , that guy lost 10k$ , you should be happy you lost 1k$?!?!?
Let's throw a party ,we have no reason at all to celebrate but some people are worse than us so we should feel great! PARTYYYYYY!

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Quote from: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 07:12:00 PM

What about the guys that are responsible for this spike?

Quote from: RoadStress on December 10, 2013, 05:25:28 PM

Quote from: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 05:11:52 PM

Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

KnC November Batch. If HF would test stuff they would post proof.

Obviously the question is to mister Iceshill , I won't quote somebody who is in the ignore list of 90% people interested in this thread.

Avenger is just a child compared to the IceTard.

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What about the guys that are responsible for this spike?

Quote from: RoadStress on December 10, 2013, 05:25:28 PM

Quote from: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 05:11:52 PM

Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

KnC November Batch. If HF would test stuff they would post proof.

Obviously the question is to mister Iceshill , I won't quote somebody who is in the ignore list of 90% people interested in this thread.

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Cuddling, censored, unicorn-shaped troll.

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on December 10, 2013, 07:07:08 PM

In other news...

CoinTerra announces one or two week delay

Quote from: miahallen on December 10, 2013, 03:26:13 PM

I spoke with "Peter" on the phone last Friday (December 6th) and he said that the first deliveries will be pushed back 7-10 days...so I doubt anyone will receive anything this year.

BitMine.ch announces three week delay

Quote from: Syke on November 27, 2013, 11:10:54 PM

Quote from: SirWizz on November 27, 2013, 11:06:19 PM

Does anyone know if these guys have actually taped out? I find it extremely hard to believe that they will deliver anything in February if they have not taped out yet...

Not yet. They do need to tape out asap if they want to hit a Feb date.

BFL Monarch delayed, yet again

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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post69562

There's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date)

Yeah, and Hashfast... Does not even have the balls to give a "2 weeks". Grin

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In other news...

CoinTerra announces one or two week delay

Quote from: miahallen on December 10, 2013, 03:26:13 PM

I spoke with "Peter" on the phone last Friday (December 6th) and he said that the first deliveries will be pushed back 7-10 days...so I doubt anyone will receive anything this year.

BitMine.ch announces three week delay

Quote from: Syke on November 27, 2013, 11:10:54 PM

Quote from: SirWizz on November 27, 2013, 11:06:19 PM

Does anyone know if these guys have actually taped out? I find it extremely hard to believe that they will deliver anything in February if they have not taped out yet...

Not yet. They do need to tape out asap if they want to hit a Feb date.

BFL Monarch delayed, yet again

Quote

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post69562

There's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date)

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hashfast-endorsement-270363 this is so funny to read now!

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Quote from: defcon23 on December 10, 2013, 06:26:50 PM

never seen a 5 days shipping from usa to france , man ...

I've paid faster shippings to Italy myself, dear.

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Quote from: cedivad on December 10, 2013, 06:25:03 PM

Quote from: defcon23 on December 10, 2013, 06:22:22 PM

OK we are today 11/12/2013 , i'm in france :so..... it's impossible to have a delivery for 31/12/2013., since hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....

No, this is wrong. We will have to wait at least the 25 for this conclusion.

never seen a 5 days shipping from usa to france , man ...

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Quote from: defcon23 on December 10, 2013, 06:22:22 PM

OK we are today 11/12/2013 , i'm in france :so..... it's impossible to have a delivery for 31/12/2013., since hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....

No, this is wrong. We will have to wait at least the 25 for this conclusion.

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... OK we are today 11/12/2013 , i'm in france :so..... it's impossible to have a delivery for 31/12/2013., more: hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....

they are liers. Angry

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Quote from: DPoS on December 10, 2013, 05:54:29 PM

Quote from: minternj on December 10, 2013, 05:41:08 PM

Bitcoin Difficulty 10/20/2013: 267,731,249
Bitcoin Difficulty Today: 908,350,862

Thank you hashfast.

right now 2Gh gets about .001 BTC a day. That's just the next ~10 days.

do they even ship bro?

No shipping, but we are "protected". Any of you fellow customers feel protected?

A wise guy said this about guarantees(customer protection) once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEB7WbTTlu4

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Quote from: minternj on December 10, 2013, 05:41:08 PM

Bitcoin Difficulty 10/20/2013: 267,731,249
Bitcoin Difficulty Today: 908,350,862

Thank you hashfast.

right now 2Gh gets about .001 BTC a day. That's just the next ~10 days.

do they even ship bro?

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Josh had his talk but no sign of john or their porn-releated colleagues for now.
https://twitter.com/danielcawrey/status/410535423522263040/photo/1

In other words, no breakings from the conference: USD refunds for everyone!

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Bitcoin Difficulty 10/20/2013: 267,731,249
Bitcoin Difficulty Today: 908,350,862

Thank you hashfast.

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Quote from: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 05:11:52 PM

Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

KnC November Batch. If HF would test stuff they would post proof.

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Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

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HashFast Technologies is a fabless semiconductor company specializing in extreme performance hashing ASICs. Our mission is to deliver the absolute best technology for the network verification of Bitcoin. Our products are high-performance ASICs. Our first chip, the Golden Nonce (GN) microprocessor, is in the final stages of development. The GN chip is expected to perform more than 400 Ghash per second. HashFast Technologies was founded in San Francisco in 2013 by Simon Barber and Eduardo de Castro. https://hashfast.com/

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on December 10, 2013, 10:18:42 AM

It is 2 hahes per clock. Each core is actually a "dual core" capable of 2 nonces per clock. So cut your speed requirement in half.

96 engines * 2 * 4 = 768 nonces per clock. 400 GH/s = 400,000 MH/s / 768 = 520 Mhz. Now that assumes 100% yield which is never going to be the case but say 550% with 90% core yield would achieve ~ 400 GH/s.

Now the radio silence is bad news, what bad news not sure but The chips as designed were designed to operate around 500 Mhz not 1.1 Ghz and processed 2 nonces per core.

I must have missed that.... if they only need to run 500Mhz though, what's all the fuss with the substrate?

Edit: Oh by the way, this IS two SHA2 operations per clock right? Not two SHA operations per clock, which is the norm for SHA2, just wanna be clear.

Yes it is two full SHA256(SHA256()) "Bitcoin hashes" at least according to the protocol doc. Even at ~500 Mhz (400 GH/s) @ 0.6 J/GH we are talking 300W or if you assume 0.7V nominal 430 amps. Compare that to the only other high current design, KNC and each board is "only" 180W or 250A. 430A is a lot of power so "only 500 Mhz" is still a power challenge.

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Well if they come out and say it's X GH/s and Y H/j _now_ then if:

(1) these numbers are above their advertised specs, but the final product is still above advertised but not quite as due to cooling, firmware, etc. people will feel cheated. (e.g. do good and they still hate you)

(2) if these numbers are below the advertised specs people who are waiting until the 31st to fund attorneys to commence litigation will start now, and dealing with it will distract them from shipping a product.

About the only gain— from a purely utilitarian perspective— that can come from more details is trying to pull in some more pre-orders. Though personally I think all of us would love to hear more, I can understand why a conservative approach may win even without any disaster.

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