Yeah, same as prodcution
Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 412. (Read 880485 times)
Yeah, same as prodcution
Jan 31?? That seems a very long time
I bought my baby jet on 09/01 (TOS of 08/08 stated NO GUARANTEED SHIPPING DELIVERY OF 31ST DEC). TOS changed on 09/09 and several more times all in favor of HF. I do not want a machine that will not bring back its initial investment, built fast to get out the door before 12/31 and will more than likely be defective. With their ambiguous dates and false sense of security via their elusive MPP they have duped all batch 1 customers. I have requested a refund several time (last one on 11/26) and they took a week to carbon copy the BS they tell everyone: "no refund, sell your machine…"
So you would rather they refund your original BabyJet purchase price of $5,600 so they can turn around and sell it for $10,000+ to someone else? I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. FTC rule did not specify they need to give refund in Bitcoins, so if you push them hard enough, they will simply refund your $5,600 per BabyJet. They are correct in saying it is better if you just sell it yourself and pocket the "profit".
Anticipated... To be after. Thanks a lot for the answer!
Interesting timeline for those answer, tough. (the twit is of a few minutes before the post of this thread promising legal actions).
Interesting timeline for those answer, tough. (the twit is of a few minutes before the post of this thread promising legal actions).
I have just been answered in 2 cases that I opened in 11th of November 
When I asked for photos:
We posted photos on the blog of the Baby Jet in prodcution. I am working to get better pictures of the Baby Jet for you. As soon as we get more we will post them on the website
I hope they do not refer as production to show a computer case with a psu and watercooling parts.
And by the question of when 2 batches and update chips are shipping:
MPP chips anticipated deliveryis after January 31st. The shipping of the second batch will happen right after the first batch.
When I asked for photos:
We posted photos on the blog of the Baby Jet in prodcution. I am working to get better pictures of the Baby Jet for you. As soon as we get more we will post them on the website
I hope they do not refer as production to show a computer case with a psu and watercooling parts.
And by the question of when 2 batches and update chips are shipping:
MPP chips anticipated deliveryis after January 31st. The shipping of the second batch will happen right after the first batch.
Twitter update
@HashFast: GN chip bringup - connected to cgminer, working through some timeout problems...
Wonder if conman or kano are working on this with them. I guess we wont know since they are probably NDA'ed if they are.
Finally! Good job! cedivad Santa came earlier this year for you!
We will have to see, but it is certainly great to see someone taking the initiative making real points and promising real actions within days. Can we have josh's face when they receive the delegation of lawyers that should have never existed up basing on BFL experience? Twitter update
@HashFast: GN chip bringup - connected to cgminer, working through some timeout problems...
Got to love how things evolve here.
Weeks of silence only a few people were angry on HF.
Updates , pictures , tweets coming and the pitchforks are on fire.
Weeks of silence only a few people were angry on HF.
Updates , pictures , tweets coming and the pitchforks are on fire.
I bought my baby jet on 09/01 (TOS of 08/08 stated NO GUARANTEED SHIPPING DELIVERY OF 31ST DEC). TOS changed on 09/09 and several more times all in favor of HF. I do not want a machine that will not bring back its initial investment, built fast to get out the door before 12/31 and will more than likely be defective. With their ambiguous dates and false sense of security via their elusive MPP they have duped all batch 1 customers. I have requested a refund several time (last one on 11/26) and they took a week to carbon copy the BS they tell everyone: "no refund, sell your machine…"
Samantha Owusu that is writing their TOS and can't spell cancellation correctly has not been taking into consideration FTC rules that prevail above the amateur HF TOS.
Hashfast violations of FTC rules
(keep in mind that monetary civil penalties are up to $16,000 per violation)
1. Misleading shipping dates on the product page.
The baby jet batch 1 showed delivery date of 20-30 october on your product page on hahshfast.com and was relied by other media that promoted HF items. It does not matter if HF terms of sale state otherwise, the fact is that HF page was misleading and FTC rules stipulate that "Whether you make a shipment representation or rely on the 30-day rule, your advertising should be unambiguous about when you will ship". This is a 2 months discrepancy and for normal product this is already unacceptable but for the BTC market, where mining hardware is an arm race, this is suicidal. $16K
2. Terms of sale and a purchase order is a sales contract between a customer and a merchant. Changing terms of sale should have been notify directly to me and as for a contract each party has to consent to the new terms of the contract or it becomes null and void. $16K
3. Before the product is shipped, according to the FTC rule the customer has all the right to cancel the order no matter if HF wrote on their TOS that they do not accept refund or cancellation as the US LAW prevail before HF TOS and rule. So as stated by FTC "You must cancel an order and provide a prompt refund when:
the customer exercises any option to cancel before you ship the merchandise." It is the company duty to take this into consideration this risk while manufacturing a product. $16K
4. Changing item specs from 350W to 400W. $16K
"If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment."
The FTC investigates fraud and eliminate unfair business practices. As I filed a complain with them regarding HF company, they will be investigating further points, my list above is non exhaustive.
This is why you should comply with the FTC regulations:
Merchants who violate the Rule can be sued by the FTC for injunctive relief, monetary civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation (any time during the five years preceding the filing of the complaint), and consumer redress (any time during the three years preceding the filing of the complaint). When the mails are involved, the Postal Service also has authority to take action for problems such as non-delivery. State law enforcement agencies can take action for violating state consumer protection laws.
I'm working with my uncle based in SF (former Senior VP of Charles Schwab) to send their lawyers this week to the Nextspace office where HF is now located (to look good on their video). A class action and full media attention will certainly motivate these lawyers. MP if you are also interested by this class action.
Samantha Owusu that is writing their TOS and can't spell cancellation correctly has not been taking into consideration FTC rules that prevail above the amateur HF TOS.
Hashfast violations of FTC rules
(keep in mind that monetary civil penalties are up to $16,000 per violation)
1. Misleading shipping dates on the product page.
The baby jet batch 1 showed delivery date of 20-30 october on your product page on hahshfast.com and was relied by other media that promoted HF items. It does not matter if HF terms of sale state otherwise, the fact is that HF page was misleading and FTC rules stipulate that "Whether you make a shipment representation or rely on the 30-day rule, your advertising should be unambiguous about when you will ship". This is a 2 months discrepancy and for normal product this is already unacceptable but for the BTC market, where mining hardware is an arm race, this is suicidal. $16K
2. Terms of sale and a purchase order is a sales contract between a customer and a merchant. Changing terms of sale should have been notify directly to me and as for a contract each party has to consent to the new terms of the contract or it becomes null and void. $16K
3. Before the product is shipped, according to the FTC rule the customer has all the right to cancel the order no matter if HF wrote on their TOS that they do not accept refund or cancellation as the US LAW prevail before HF TOS and rule. So as stated by FTC "You must cancel an order and provide a prompt refund when:
the customer exercises any option to cancel before you ship the merchandise." It is the company duty to take this into consideration this risk while manufacturing a product. $16K
4. Changing item specs from 350W to 400W. $16K
"If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment."
The FTC investigates fraud and eliminate unfair business practices. As I filed a complain with them regarding HF company, they will be investigating further points, my list above is non exhaustive.
This is why you should comply with the FTC regulations:
Merchants who violate the Rule can be sued by the FTC for injunctive relief, monetary civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation (any time during the five years preceding the filing of the complaint), and consumer redress (any time during the three years preceding the filing of the complaint). When the mails are involved, the Postal Service also has authority to take action for problems such as non-delivery. State law enforcement agencies can take action for violating state consumer protection laws.
I'm working with my uncle based in SF (former Senior VP of Charles Schwab) to send their lawyers this week to the Nextspace office where HF is now located (to look good on their video). A class action and full media attention will certainly motivate these lawyers. MP if you are also interested by this class action.
Finally! Good job! cedivad Santa came earlier this year for you!
I bought my baby jet on 09/01 (TOS of 08/08 stated NO GUARANTEED SHIPPING DELIVERY OF 31ST DEC). TOS changed on 09/09 and several more times all in favor of HF. I do not want a machine that will not bring back its initial investment, built fast to get out the door before 12/31 and will more than likely be defective. With their ambiguous dates and false sense of security via their elusive MPP they have duped all batch 1 customers. I have requested a refund several time (last one on 11/26) and they took a week to carbon copy the BS they tell everyone: "no refund, sell your machine…"
Samantha Owusu that is writing their TOS and can't spell cancellation correctly has not been taking into consideration FTC rules that prevail above the amateur HF TOS.
Hashfast violations of FTC rules
(keep in mind that monetary civil penalties are up to $16,000 per violation)
1. Misleading shipping dates on the product page.
The baby jet batch 1 showed delivery date of 20-30 october on your product page on hahshfast.com and was relied by other media that promoted HF items. It does not matter if HF terms of sale state otherwise, the fact is that HF page was misleading and FTC rules stipulate that "Whether you make a shipment representation or rely on the 30-day rule, your advertising should be unambiguous about when you will ship". This is a 2 months discrepancy and for normal product this is already unacceptable but for the BTC market, where mining hardware is an arm race, this is suicidal. $16K
2. Terms of sale and a purchase order is a sales contract between a customer and a merchant. Changing terms of sale should have been notify directly to me and as for a contract each party has to consent to the new terms of the contract or it becomes null and void. $16K
3. Before the product is shipped, according to the FTC rule the customer has all the right to cancel the order no matter if HF wrote on their TOS that they do not accept refund or cancellation as the US LAW prevail before HF TOS and rule. So as stated by FTC "You must cancel an order and provide a prompt refund when:
the customer exercises any option to cancel before you ship the merchandise." It is the company duty to take this into consideration this risk while manufacturing a product. $16K
4. Changing item specs from 350W to 400W. $16K
"If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment."
The FTC investigates fraud and eliminate unfair business practices. As I filed a complain with them regarding HF company, they will be investigating further points, my list above is non exhaustive.
This is why you should comply with the FTC regulations:
Merchants who violate the Rule can be sued by the FTC for injunctive relief, monetary civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation (any time during the five years preceding the filing of the complaint), and consumer redress (any time during the three years preceding the filing of the complaint). When the mails are involved, the Postal Service also has authority to take action for problems such as non-delivery. State law enforcement agencies can take action for violating state consumer protection laws.
I'm working with my uncle based in SF (former Senior VP of Charles Schwab) to send their lawyers this week to the Nextspace office where HF is now located (to look good on their video). A class action and full media attention will certainly motivate these lawyers. MP if you are also interested by this class action.
Samantha Owusu that is writing their TOS and can't spell cancellation correctly has not been taking into consideration FTC rules that prevail above the amateur HF TOS.
Hashfast violations of FTC rules
(keep in mind that monetary civil penalties are up to $16,000 per violation)
1. Misleading shipping dates on the product page.
The baby jet batch 1 showed delivery date of 20-30 october on your product page on hahshfast.com and was relied by other media that promoted HF items. It does not matter if HF terms of sale state otherwise, the fact is that HF page was misleading and FTC rules stipulate that "Whether you make a shipment representation or rely on the 30-day rule, your advertising should be unambiguous about when you will ship". This is a 2 months discrepancy and for normal product this is already unacceptable but for the BTC market, where mining hardware is an arm race, this is suicidal. $16K
2. Terms of sale and a purchase order is a sales contract between a customer and a merchant. Changing terms of sale should have been notify directly to me and as for a contract each party has to consent to the new terms of the contract or it becomes null and void. $16K
3. Before the product is shipped, according to the FTC rule the customer has all the right to cancel the order no matter if HF wrote on their TOS that they do not accept refund or cancellation as the US LAW prevail before HF TOS and rule. So as stated by FTC "You must cancel an order and provide a prompt refund when:
the customer exercises any option to cancel before you ship the merchandise." It is the company duty to take this into consideration this risk while manufacturing a product. $16K
4. Changing item specs from 350W to 400W. $16K
"If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment."
The FTC investigates fraud and eliminate unfair business practices. As I filed a complain with them regarding HF company, they will be investigating further points, my list above is non exhaustive.
This is why you should comply with the FTC regulations:
Merchants who violate the Rule can be sued by the FTC for injunctive relief, monetary civil penalties of up to $16,000 per violation (any time during the five years preceding the filing of the complaint), and consumer redress (any time during the three years preceding the filing of the complaint). When the mails are involved, the Postal Service also has authority to take action for problems such as non-delivery. State law enforcement agencies can take action for violating state consumer protection laws.
I'm working with my uncle based in SF (former Senior VP of Charles Schwab) to send their lawyers this week to the Nextspace office where HF is now located (to look good on their video). A class action and full media attention will certainly motivate these lawyers. MP if you are also interested by this class action.
I'm speechless that they have actual good, positive updates and they STILL do not post here or their website. They must be seriously understaffed.
Thanks but no thanks Hashfast!
lol, it should say we want our bitcoins back so we can buy serrias for 1/2 the price
Perhaps still no PCB to test it with. 1 week and half more. Let's see if they will delay again.
PCB is the easy part... they can have these out within a week usually.
Is there anybody at Hashfast you could ask in order to clarify when they expect to have this out?
Yes, this is very good news. The next thing for them to do is start hashing with the chips.
And yes, if leakage is lower than expected that means higher GH/s/w or higher overall OC capabilities.
So long as the chips work and don't need to be respun, I'm guessing at this point we're a week or two away from volume production.
Looks like we're probably good to go.
And yes, if leakage is lower than expected that means higher GH/s/w or higher overall OC capabilities.
So long as the chips work and don't need to be respun, I'm guessing at this point we're a week or two away from volume production.
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@HashFast: GN chip bringup - commands going in and responses coming back out. It's alive!
Looks like we're probably good to go.
This would be great news if it had been posted on say October 10th now it just reminds me of how they mislead their first batch customers with unrealistic delivery dates in order to get them to pay a premium.
I think they just hooked up the oscilloscope leads to the shriveled rump that is Icebreaker's brain. Garbage in, garbage out.
These guys are obviously unprepared. Knc chips came. And witjin hours they had a working unit.
To me it looks like that they are doing a good job. But i don't feel like i should defend them.
What is the maximum clock this things can take.? Can someone take a guess?
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