Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 478. (Read 880461 times)

probably I just don't understand it, but what is the benefit for me, as their customer, of all this exclusivity which is established two days before or even after the due delivery date, while one of the essential and show-stopper ingredients is still in limbo? Somebody suddenly woke up and realized he forgot to do things, which he should have done months before? Or is it pure boredom because there is just nothing else to do? Or is it just distraction, smoke and mirrors?

I'm a business man, and, to be honest, each and every of these announcements feels like a kick in the groin to me, because I know that such basics have to be done at the beginning of a project, not at the projected end.
Come on, announcing the assembler of the product one week before the finished product ought to be shipped? PSUs 2 day before? Exclusive deal with the assembler on the last day of the promised delivery start window? Ridiculous, I would be ashamed to have to announce such.

How high would the odds be, that another ASIC manufacturer knocks at Ciara's doors and asks for an assembly line for their miners? And even, what would change if he'd get one?

So please, get your things together, focus on the important stuff and finish and ship the product! And don't dare to announce an exclusive deal with a PCB manufacturer next week.

Nobody cares what you do or don't believe, because you are too stupid to do a simple fact check before accusing others of lying.

Some one needs to sticky this quote so everyone can link back to it each time someone whines about "what I would have done."

To those that keep whining about it, everyone knows that what you "would have done" is exactly what you did, but you keep whining about how you would have done things differently if only you had known.

Guess what? We would all be multi-billionaires if we had the perfect insight you think you had. The fact that you are whining about what you would have done vs being rich proves it to be untrue. If only I had known bitcoin would be $200!

Probably because if they do ship earlier than Dec he will sue for having his hardware "stolen".

This! 

And why doesn't HF just give cedivad a refund so he'll STFU?!

STFU?!

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And why doesn't HF just give cedivad a refund so he'll STFU?!

Do any of you trade in stocks?   It is completely different if you bought BTC instead in August since you probably would of sold them in Sept on a small increase, then sat on the sidelines saying ...'I should not of sold my bitcoins so early, I would have made quite a bit of money by now'

It's a lot easier when someone else holds your money hostage and then comment on what you 'would have done' which of course would be to perfectly play the market

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Guess what? (...) if we had the perfect insight (...)

Do any of you trade in stocks?   It is completely different if you bought BTC instead in August since you probably would of sold them in Sept on a small increase, then sat on the sidelines saying ...'I should not of sold my bitcoins so early, I would have made quite a bit of money by now'

It's a lot easier when someone else holds your money hostage and then comment on what you 'would have done' which of course would be to perfectly play the market

I think the issue is that Taco didn't quite correctly restate what HF said. Not a big deal since the actual quote from HF is okay, as is the description of the MPP on HF's website.

On your point btc_usr, I didn't have BTC to pay for my order,  so I did not pay in BTC.  Even if I had the BTC, I doubt I would have used them to pay. I had USD and I paid in USD by bank wire.  No conversion took place.

Except that for the purposes of the MPP, my USD are counted as BTC at the MtGox exchange rate offered by HF to customers paying in BTC on that day. In other words, the same as everybody else paying that day.

So, in effect, buying the HF hardware let me make an investment of USD linked to the value of BTC without the rigamarole and fees associated with first buying BTC then transferring them to HF.  (And I know some won't like me saying this, but I like the potential protections (especially to a US customer) of paying in USD versus BTC.)

But, like everybody who paid in BTC, I'm screwed if the MPP fails.

Do any of you trade in stocks?   It is completely different if you bought BTC instead in August since you probably would of sold them in Sept on a small increase, then sat on the sidelines saying ...'I should not of sold my bitcoins so early, I would have made quite a bit of money by now'

It's a lot easier when someone else holds your money hostage and then comment on what you 'would have done' which of course would be to perfectly play the market

It's a lot easier when someone else holds your money hostage and then comment on what you 'would have done' which of course would be to perfectly play the market

buying btc was always more profitable afaik
who stopped you from buying new BTC at the time you used yours for the pre-order ?


regarding the MPP, what I do not understand:
why one has to convert his fiat into btc first in order to be able to take advantage of the MPP ?
was it mentioned in any way before ?

Although it was a bad call in retrospect, I considered buying BTC instead of making a Batch 1 order, back at then end of August.  I would have made quite a bit of money by now.

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Although it was a bad call in retrospect, I considered buying BTC instead of making a Batch 1 order, back at then end of August.  I would have made quite a bit of money by now.
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I don't believe that.  How is it that you got Ciara to tie their own hands and agree not to do business with any other manufacturer of crypto hardware (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "competition")?  I call bullshit.  If your agreement really were exclusive, there would be a statement by Ciara to that effect.  I can find no such statement, and of course there was no official joint press-release.

That ridiculous "box of fans" you posted, should've gotten you guys shot by now.  It's an insult to everyones' intelligence.  With that, and as with so many other things, you people talk a good game, but you still lack proof.  So toss it up.  Prove to us that this agreement which you claim is exclusive, is indeed so.  Lest you look like more of the idiot that I've previously called you out to be.

Big News! HashFast Signs Exclusive Deal with CIARA Technologies

Posted on October 11, 2013

https://hashfast.com/big-news-hashfast-signs-exclusive-deal-with-ciara-technologies/


This is a huge deal. We’ve just signed an exclusive agreement with Montreal’s acclaimed CIARA Technologies to build the mining rigs that will house our GN chip once it’s been fabricated by the TSMC foundry. CIARA has been an industry leader in the design and manufacture of high-end supercomputers for over 25 years, and getting them to build the Baby Jet, the Sierra and future machines means that we’ve got one of the most respected box builders in the business. Of particular note to our miners, CIARA is a world-record breaker for single and double overclocked processors — in fact, they’ve got an entire department dedicated to overclocked CPUs. If there was one company capable of building the machines that can handle the power of HashFast’s 28nm chip, it’s CIARA. And now that we’ve signed the deal, they’ll exclusively produce mining rigs for HashFast.

But this isn’t just about power. We’ll be shipping our Baby Jets directly from CIARA’s massive 576,000 sq. ft. headquarters in Montreal. There are few manufacturers in the world that have the incredible capacity to build and ship mining rigs with the speed CIARA does. What’s more, CIARA is a C-TPAT registered company, which means no delays at US or Canadian customs.

We know how valuable time is for miners, and that you’re all counting down to shipment. So are we. The CIARA deal not only means we’ve got the best partner in the business, it means you’ll be getting your Baby Jets and Sierras — and whatever comes next — as soon as possible.