I think it will be a huge mistake to simply upgrade all B1 BJ to Sierra or provide extra MPP hashing modules upfront without any additional cost or consideration. With all these unexpected additional hashing power (up to 1PH) coming online at once to drive up difficulty even further, nobody is going to win. What's worse is HashFast will now be pissing off their B2 and B3 customers as well who were only expecting 400TH to 500TH to come online from HashFast B1. The additional chips given to B1 customers will also meant longer delays for B2/B3 customers to receive their miner as there will be less chips, materials and resources to go around.
Yes, we are all pretty much in the same situation, but right now the best ones located are the batch 2 sierras customers. Seems they have no delay, they will be shipping at the same time as the BJs, they have x3 hashing power and for the same price as a BJ customer.
And how can aditional chips will mean in any delay for 2 and 3 customers ?
HF is supposed to have paid already for the MPP and 2 batch waffers.
And if the first batch customers that take the biggest risk by going first into this and support with their own money HF longer batches, are suposed to be late, why will I will not demand any compensation if the later batches are going to still be on scheadule and not mine?
How would you feel if you intentionally skip B1 knowing it was high risk/high reward. You anticipated there would most likely be a delay and the difficulty will skyrock. So you ended up ordering a B2 Sierra early (first 10) because it is less expensive (per Gh) and you figure the production delay will be caught up within the 1 month between B1 and B2. Long and behold, the anticipated delay is a reality and you congratulate yourself for making a smart choice.... But wait, what? Instead of being #10 to receive one of the first 10 Sierra, you are now #610 (or 1010 if including IceDrill)?!? What's worse than the delay is now there is an additional 1PH that you thought won't appear for another 90 days, if the delay doesn't kill your ROI, the additional difficulty surely will!
We all acepted the risk on going into the first batch of a miner of this type, I will not argue that.
But the thing here is, who the hell expected HF was going to deploy a x3 hashing power machine, for the same price and in a rack server in a sort time ?
I mean, who was the bored and smart guy in HF that decided to sell over 550 units of a product and then offer a much better new product, before even having deployed the first batch at the same price?
You dont have to be really smart to think that anyone that has bought a BJ would have prefer to purchase a sierra instead if you have given them the chance. I see it so clear and simple that really do not know how a company like HF has done such a big mistake.
My main concern when the sierra appears was not the price itself. I asked as many customers if we could upgrade our order to a sierra one, because I expected a delay in first batch delivery and I do not expect HF will take care about their customers ( as everyone can see their are not). Now batch one is expected to mid november and batch 2 for late november, that means all will be deployed at the same time for me, taking in acount last HF expectations.
So B2 customers are being penalized for B1 buyers' recklessness and greed, who didn't properly anticipate the delay, and they didn't plan for skyrocking difficulty (do you think this is Avalon B1 when there is no other ASIC?.) If B1 buyers were smart and held out for a better price, they wouldn't have been in this situation. When there was little to no demand, HashFast was forced to have sales and lower their price on their B2 miners. The same thing would have happened if B1 customers weren't so eager to hand over their money.
Well the price with the MPP included was the best option out there at the time I purchase the BJ as it was too late for going into KNC. There was no other one out there offering a delivery as close to knc as HF, with the MPP included and I still remenber the days they said they will try to catch knc delivery time
MPP is compensation enough for B1 customers. Congrat to cypherdoc whose wish is going to come true, who kept mentioning 400% more hashing power in 90 days as if that was a guarantee or given... Without the delay and if BJ were to ship tomorrow, I believe you will earn back 2/3 of the Bitcoins you paid, so just 50% more hashing power would have been needed in the beginning to make 100% ROI, doubling that would only meant you will get one additional ASIC module. But now with the delay, it is looking more likely you will end up getting 400% more hashing power (1.6TH) instead of a measly 400GH. As designed, MPP is rewarding/compensating for the delay and the longer the delay, the more additional hashing power you will receive in 90 days, and yet B1 customers want more because they are greedy, overpaid and naive to believe there won't be any delay when any reasonable person can see that one little thing can throw the incredibly tight schedule off.
Sorry but I think you are going really wrong on this. We all expected delays as we accept that risk when we bought the units, but not such a huge delay (which I still think will be longer). Anyways, what anyone could not expect when purchasing a BJ was that they wil piss off these customers by offering for the same price a x3 hashing power machine with a month gap. If that gap will stay there, we could have a litle chance to gain some advantage on the sierras customers in profit terms and I will be satisfied when the MPP comes in. Now the delivery of the two batches is expected to be the same, or 1-2 week difference "oficially by HF" what happens ?
I preffer to have 1,2TH by end november rather that 400GH in the third week of november and another 1,2TH in 3 months time when they will be pretty much useless and ridiculous comparing the profit terms a sierra customer would have done in this 3 months
I do not see a crazy idea to ship and compensate the first batch customers with a sierra so they can roi and earn in the future MPP chips. It seems that you are a 2 batch customer or longer and you dont want such a huge power deployed, which I can perfectly understand if I were in your situation. But try to be on our place
