HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s - page 528.

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Quote from: regular on October 09, 2013, 10:50:31 PM

So it remains to be seen how much Hashfast will sell their Sierra chassis for then? Or would be able to buy empty babyjets to put the modules in as well?

Except for the "modules" (we're going to call them mini-boards now to avoid confusion) there is nothing proprietary in the Baby Jet and Sierra.

HashFast is dedicated to open source and community empowerment, in both hardware and software.

To make an empty Baby Jet or Sierra, all you need is fairly standard stuff from Newegg/Amazon/Craigslist.

- an ATX tower with plenty of ventilation and places to mount the liquid cooling system radiators
- an ATX PSU with plenty of wattage (get twice what you need to ensure cool, efficient, reliable service)
- a controller with enough RAM/CPU for your needs (Raspberry Pi/tablet/smartphone for BJ, basic 1U Debian server or old laptop for Sierra)

Of course we are thrilled to have The WASP and other DIY projects contribute their own ingenious chassis/cooling solutions, but until then off the shelf parts are fine.

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Quote from: regular on October 09, 2013, 10:50:31 PM

So it remains to be seen how much Hashfast will sell their Sierra chassis for then? Or would be able to buy empty babyjets to put the modules in as well?

you won't need to buy them from HF if you don't want to. the Sierra chassis is just a std rackmount and the BJ is a std desktop.

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So it remains to be seen how much Hashfast will sell their Sierra chassis for then? Or would be able to buy empty babyjets to put the modules in as well?

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Quote from: Amy Woodward on September 26, 2013, 10:54:57 PM

What happened to our FPGA?

https://hashfast.com/fpgayousay

Hi Amy,

There is a lot more great content on the HashFast blog that somehow escaped the forum's notice!

*shovels furiously*

1. CG Miner screenshots

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https://hashfast.com/cgminerscreenshots/
Posted on July 30, 2013 by Simon Barber
These are screenshots of the CGminer software output.

CG Miner is one of the standard mining software packages that can interface with either CPU, GPU or ASIC (Application Specific Integrated Circuit) mining equipment.

Here, it is integrated with our own driver for the HashFast ASIC, and is connected to a HashFast core running inside an FPGA (Field Programmable Gate Array ), simulating the same logic that our ASIC is running. The following images show a demonstration of that ASIC logic actually running against BTC Guild and mining bitcoins.

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Quote from: pmorici on October 09, 2013, 09:58:43 PM

Quote from: Amy Woodward on October 09, 2013, 08:52:53 PM

Yes, each module is a PCB board, with amongst other things, a GN chip, a VRM, usb port, power connectors, mounts for the water cooler, etc.

Amy,

Does that mean than if the Miner protection program kicks in we'd be given modules? or is that deal still for GN "chips" and nothing else? As shipping day approaches it would be nice to have some clarity on the exact form everything will be taking. I had been planning to sell of my USB hubs used with my Block Erupter ASIC miners but if I might end up needing them it would be good to know. These sorts of things would be good topics for blog posts in the very near future.

hang on to them.

if you notice carefully, when the MPP kicks in you're going to get 4 free chips for every chip bought. 1 will go into your BJ to fill the 2nd slot. the other 3 can conveniently be mounted inside a Sierra box. the Sierras won't have their own controller; you'll need to purchase one. the good news is that one controller can run multiple Sierra's (dozens?) and will be connected to them via USB cords going to one USB hub.

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Quote from: crumbs on October 09, 2013, 04:06:17 PM

If "the Baby Jet motherboard has room for an additional GN chip module," and "the module is it's [sic] own motherboard", as you've pointed out, then WTF are we talking about??? Infinite recursion?

"Motherboard" was the wrong word to use.

It should say

"the Baby Jet case has room for an additional GN chip module," and "the module is a miniature motherboard (which attaches directly to your ATX case risers)"

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Quote from: donch on October 09, 2013, 04:15:35 PM

Just to be clear, what is the difference between a "module" and a "motherboard" by your definition? How does the "module" receive it's power without some kind of VRM mounted on a PCB?

The "module" is a miniature motherboard. Each one screws onto the risers of any ATX case and contains a chip, a VRM, a USB, etc., mounted on a PCB.

The Baby-Jet case has room for two of these 'mini-boards.'

All the mini-boards need to start hashing is an ATX PSU, cooling, and a controller (Raspberry Pi for BJs, basic 1U server for Sierras).

Sorry for the confusion, we are no longer going to call them "modules" or mistakenly suggest they are mounted onto anything except the case.

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Quote from: Amy Woodward on October 09, 2013, 08:52:53 PM

Yes, each module is a PCB board, with amongst other things, a GN chip, a VRM, usb port, power connectors, mounts for the water cooler, etc.

Amy,

Does that mean than if the Miner protection program kicks in we'd be given modules? or is that deal still for GN "chips" and nothing else? As shipping day approaches it would be nice to have some clarity on the exact form everything will be taking. I had been planning to sell of my USB hubs used with my Block Erupter ASIC miners but if I might end up needing them it would be good to know. These sorts of things would be good topics for blog posts in the very near future.

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Quote from: donch on October 09, 2013, 04:15:35 PM

Just to be clear, what is the difference between a "module" and a "motherboard" by your definition? How does the "module" receive it's power without some kind of VRM mounted on a PCB?

Hi donch,

The website has been updated; the description was old - sometime in July old.

Yes, each module is a PCB board, with amongst other things, a GN chip, a VRM, usb port, power connectors, mounts for the water cooler, etc.

And a Baby Jet has enough room inside to fit two modules.

Amy Woodward
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HashFast Technologies

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Quote from: PuertoLibre on October 09, 2013, 05:47:29 PM

Quote from: itod on October 09, 2013, 05:19:00 PM

Quote from: Rampion on October 09, 2013, 03:27:19 PM

Miner protection is BS. The more GH/s hashfast distributes, the more difficult will be to have positive ROI.

After this nonsense it's very hard to discuss anything. So miner protection is bad because it gives more GHs to HashFast customers?!?!?

This thread is becoming a troll-fest really fast. It would be nice to have KnC shills back to KnC-still-no-tracking-number-whining thread.

It is very much a self defeating type of compensation.

Exactly. The only valid "miner protection" is to immediately deliver a limited batch of hardware which is superior to everything else on the market at that moment. But... Wait. That would mean an almost guaranteed profit, as you would b/e quickly..... So.... I guess that any company able to do that would just mine with the hardware. The free loan, "all the risk on customer's shoulder" model makes a lot of sense from an enterpreneurial point of view.

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Quote from: itod on October 09, 2013, 05:19:00 PM

Quote from: Rampion on October 09, 2013, 03:27:19 PM

Miner protection is BS. The more GH/s hashfast distributes, the more difficult will be to have positive ROI.

After this nonsense it's very hard to discuss anything. So miner protection is bad because it gives more GHs to HashFast customers?!?!?

This thread is becoming a troll-fest really fast. It would be nice to have KnC shills back to KnC-still-no-tracking-number-whining thread.

It is very much a self defeating type of compensation.

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Quote from: Rampion on October 09, 2013, 03:27:19 PM

Miner protection is BS. The more GH/s hashfast distributes, the more difficult will be to have positive ROI.

After this nonsense it's very hard to discuss anything. So miner protection is bad because it gives more GHs to HashFast customers?!?!?

This thread is becoming a troll-fest really fast. It would be nice to have KnC shills back to KnC-still-no-tracking-number-whining thread.

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Updated ironic image.

Just to be clear, what is the difference between a "module" and a "motherboard" by your definition? How does the "module" receive it's power without some kind of VRM mounted on a PCB?

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Quote from: crumbs on October 09, 2013, 04:06:17 PM

Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:57:02 PM

Quote from: Visesrion on October 09, 2013, 03:45:14 PM

Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:32:59 PM

KNC didn't win anything. remember they started their company months earlier than HF and are just delivering product now which is a bit late.

HF may also be a week late but what do you expect? if they can deliver by 1st week Nov, given the superior tech and MPP, I am more than happy to be a HF customer and prefer their odds of dominance in the long run.

something that hasn't been stressed enough is that the HF "module" that contains a pre-mounted chip is the only proprietary piece in a BJ or Sierra. the module is it's own motherboard. there is no separate pcb needed. everything else, case, cooler, psu, RaspPi, fans, is OEM.

unlike KNC which has a proprietary casing and controller.

you buy a bunch of modules and you could start your own distribution business.

So then whats the point on writing this on the babyjet description ?

The Baby Jet motherboard has room for an additional GN chip module.**

I suposse that by that time HF already knows that they are going to work with independet modules and not a limited motherboard. I really think that they just did this to get the customers into the "upgrade kit".

not sure what you mean.

the upgrade kit (module, cooler, and psu) was for those who want to maximally utilize the BJ's capability to insert a 2nd module NOW. if you choose to wait instead for the MPP, you still will insert a 2nd module into the open slot 3 mo from delivery. but then you'll have to buy an extra cooler and upgrade the psu yourself.

Read the red text. Note lack of coherency.

If "the Baby Jet motherboard has room for an additional GN chip module," and "the module is it's [sic] own motherboard", as you've pointed out, then WTF are we talking about??? Infinite recursion?

ah, i see the inconsistency. thank you crumbs for clarifying things for once.

i'll get them to rectify that on the website.

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Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:57:02 PM

Quote from: Visesrion on October 09, 2013, 03:45:14 PM

Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:32:59 PM

KNC didn't win anything. remember they started their company months earlier than HF and are just delivering product now which is a bit late.

HF may also be a week late but what do you expect? if they can deliver by 1st week Nov, given the superior tech and MPP, I am more than happy to be a HF customer and prefer their odds of dominance in the long run.

something that hasn't been stressed enough is that the HF "module" that contains a pre-mounted chip is the only proprietary piece in a BJ or Sierra. the module is it's own motherboard. there is no separate pcb needed. everything else, case, cooler, psu, RaspPi, fans, is OEM.

unlike KNC which has a proprietary casing and controller.

you buy a bunch of modules and you could start your own distribution business.

So then whats the point on writing this on the babyjet description ?

The Baby Jet motherboard has room for an additional GN chip module.**

I suposse that by that time HF already knows that they are going to work with independet modules and not a limited motherboard. I really think that they just did this to get the customers into the "upgrade kit".

not sure what you mean.

the upgrade kit (module, cooler, and psu) was for those who want to maximally utilize the BJ's capability to insert a 2nd module NOW. if you choose to wait instead for the MPP, you still will insert a 2nd module into the open slot 3 mo from delivery. but then you'll have to buy an extra cooler and upgrade the psu yourself.

Read the red text. Note lack of coherency.

If "the Baby Jet motherboard has room for an additional GN chip module," and "the module is it's [sic] own motherboard", as you've pointed out, then WTF are we talking about??? Infinite recursion?

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Quote from: Visesrion on October 09, 2013, 03:45:14 PM

Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:32:59 PM

KNC didn't win anything. remember they started their company months earlier than HF and are just delivering product now which is a bit late.

HF may also be a week late but what do you expect? if they can deliver by 1st week Nov, given the superior tech and MPP, I am more than happy to be a HF customer and prefer their odds of dominance in the long run.

something that hasn't been stressed enough is that the HF "module" that contains a pre-mounted chip is the only proprietary piece in a BJ or Sierra. the module is it's own motherboard. there is no separate pcb needed. everything else, case, cooler, psu, RaspPi, fans, is OEM.

unlike KNC which has a proprietary casing and controller.

you buy a bunch of modules and you could start your own distribution business.

So then whats the point on writing this on the babyjet description ?

The Baby Jet motherboard has room for an additional GN chip module.**

I suposse that by that time HF already knows that they are going to work with independet modules and not a limited motherboard. I really think that they just did this to get the customers into the "upgrade kit".

not sure what you mean.

the upgrade kit (module, cooler, and psu) was for those who want to maximally utilize the BJ's capability to insert a 2nd module NOW. if you choose to wait instead for the MPP, you still will insert a 2nd module into the open slot 3 mo from delivery. but then you'll have to buy an extra cooler and upgrade the psu yourself.

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Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:32:59 PM

KNC didn't win anything. remember they started their company months earlier than HF and are just delivering product now which is a bit late.

HF may also be a week late but what do you expect? if they can deliver by 1st week Nov, given the superior tech and MPP, I am more than happy to be a HF customer and prefer their odds of dominance in the long run.

something that hasn't been stressed enough is that the HF "module" that contains a pre-mounted chip is the only proprietary piece in a BJ or Sierra. the module is it's own motherboard. there is no separate pcb needed. everything else, case, cooler, psu, RaspPi, fans, is OEM.

unlike KNC which has a proprietary casing and controller.

you buy a bunch of modules and you could start your own distribution business.

Quoted for posterity!

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Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:32:59 PM

KNC didn't win anything. remember they started their company months earlier than HF and are just delivering product now which is a bit late.

HF may also be a week late but what do you expect? if they can deliver by 1st week Nov, given the superior tech and MPP, I am more than happy to be a HF customer and prefer their odds of dominance in the long run.

something that hasn't been stressed enough is that the HF "module" that contains a pre-mounted chip is the only proprietary piece in a BJ or Sierra. the module is it's own motherboard. there is no separate pcb needed. everything else, case, cooler, psu, RaspPi, fans, is OEM.

unlike KNC which has a proprietary casing and controller.

you buy a bunch of modules and you could start your own distribution business.

So then whats the point on writing this on the babyjet description ?

The Baby Jet motherboard has room for an additional GN chip module.**

I suposse that by that time HF already knows that they are going to work with independet modules and not a limited motherboard. I really think that they just did this to get the customers into the "upgrade kit".

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Quote from: cypherdoc on October 09, 2013, 03:32:59 PM

KNC didn't win anything.

They have delivered a product. HashFast have not done so yet. Best to save declarations like that for delivery day...

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KNC didn't win anything. remember they started their company months earlier than HF and are just delivering product now which is a bit late.

HF may also be a week late but what do you expect? if they can deliver by 1st week Nov, given the superior tech and MPP, I am more than happy to be a HF customer and prefer their odds of dominance in the long run.

something that hasn't been stressed enough is that the HF "module" that contains a pre-mounted chip is the only proprietary piece in a BJ or Sierra. the module is it's own motherboard. there is no separate pcb needed. everything else, case, cooler, psu, RaspPi, fans, is OEM.

unlike KNC which has a proprietary casing and controller.

you buy a bunch of modules and you could start your own distribution business.

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