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Quote from: calichomp on August 07, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

Making everyone sign an NDA is pretty stupid. I requested to go to the open house and was told: 'no' we're full. Not a huge fan of these guys right now. We know that they had an open house. However, we have no clue what was discussed. So, what was the point of it?

It's kind of annoying.

On the other hand, their main public competition right now is Cointerra, it's probably something of a game of chicken with them, they don't want to put out specs before Cointerra does if it means Cointerra can try to one up them.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned the hashrate is going to be going up way to quickly to bother buying any more hashpower at this point in time. We'll have to see where things are in December, and what the prices are.

I'm a little worried people aren't really doing their research or thinking clearly are going to order a ton of product they'll never ROI off of, and at the same time destroy profitability for everyone else as well.

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Quote from: HashFast on August 06, 2013, 07:12:39 PM

Thanks to everyone that came out for our Office visit in San Jose this morning!
(hopefully some of them will post about it

John

But you made them sign an NDA so they can't talk about it. Congratulations

Heh.

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Quote from: crumbs on August 07, 2013, 12:39:41 PM

It pains me to see that you're discussing what it pains you to see, instead of topics pertinent to the thread -- deals which will affect investors. I'm not as concerned about your pains as i'd like to be, so let's stay on topic.

You say there isn't going to be a 28nm ASIC in other threads,

Refer to yourself as a "We" with CoinTerra,

then are directly concerned with investors of HashFast now?

If anyone believed in a word you said before, I'm sure they have quickly come around now.

Crumbs is a troll, dude. Earlier he was saying that HashFast hadn't even indicated that it ever planned to produce a chip. He's not trying to have a discussion, he's trying to bait people into jumping through his pseudo-logical 'arguments' that actually don't make any sense at all.

Just click the ignore button.

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NDA to an open day? LOL fuck that

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Quote from: crumbs on August 07, 2013, 11:51:15 AM

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I didn't go to the open house but I did visit them personally before that. I also signed an NDA and was happy to do so because they gave more information out than just about any company currently out there without physical chips.

You can't fault them for that, right now as long as everyone at the open house can agree that the specs they have shown are valid, that this company is a legit company, and that they are still on good standing to deliver when they say they will, what more can you ask for. ...

An ASIC company with zero track record & zero cred holds an open house where people are turned away, and the select few who make it in are made to sign NDAs. I think i got all i need Cheesy

Edit: An interesting IPO being offered here by DeadTerra (not to be confused with Cointerra), involving HashFast (not to be confused with Fast Hash). Any comments, considering there's talk of a deal with first HashFast devices going exclusively to DeadTerra?

You can only fit so many people in a building, even you should have the capability to understand this.
They were accepting visits before this "open house" and you could have chosen not to sign an NDA, you would just receive less information.

I'm sorry if you're used to being being told to GTFO when you appear at an open house. Never happened to me. If you are also used to signing NDAs when you come to an open house, i suspect you're being trolled.

Quote from: DeaDTerra on August 07, 2013, 10:24:14 AM

Q:
Have HashFast said they will only sell chips to IceDrill ?

A:
We have a deal with HashFast that guarantees that we will get the chips from the first batch produced.
Once the chips are off from the fab they will be sent straight to us for assembly.

It pains me when people can't use basic logic to dictate why people do what they do.

As i've told you before, i'm behind all of it -- Cointerra, Deadterra, TerraHash (whoops -- not 'till next week) Fast Hash, Hashcoin, and Miracle Grow Investments. I'm known as The Hamburglar IRL. You got me Cheesy

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An ASIC company with zero track record & zero cred holds an open house where people are turned away, and the select few who make it in are made to sign NDAs. I think i got all i need Cheesy

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It pains me when people can't use basic logic to dictate why people do what they do.

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An ASIC company with zero track record & zero cred holds an open house where people are turned away, and the select few who make it in are made to sign NDAs. I think i got all i need Cheesy

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I wish I could have made it, I was planning on driving down, but am just figuring out when that is possible, so I haven't used the email they gave yet.
I think there may be some misunderstanding of what this was intended to accomplish. The NDA is in place because there are multiple companies doing similar things. There is a lot of information that could benefit a competitor.

It seems like the open house was their way of letting the community know that they exist in the capacity that they claim, on a more personal level than internet searches. Not to answer every question that an investor would reasonably have. I'm just thinking from a companies perspective here, would you want to release all your info? It's kind of like a game of chicken at the moment. Who will get closer to the cliff before hitting the breaks? I bet Cointerra and HashFast would want to wait until the other company releases their information so that they can price accordingly.

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They selectively invite the Yes Man to their open day. I doubt anyone can asked them questions. !! In the name of NDA What a laughing joke.

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They were full. This answer may not satisfy your questions but it is what it is.

It's just that the concept "Open House" isn't usually associated with requirements for NDAs. Usually it's more powerpoint, meet and greet, and vegetable platters.

So, in the light of oxymorons, "it is what it is" is hardly appropriate. "They are who they are" is probably more appropriate. And so far, who they are is the gang who can't shoot straight, at least so far as public relations and perceptions.

With Cointerra out there, dysfunction like this is more problematic all the time. But I still wish 'em well. Who doesn't need another pre-order choice?

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Quote from: calichomp on August 07, 2013, 10:08:58 AM

They have a good reason not to invite so many people. They were full. This answer may not satisfy your questions but it is what it is.

this is the worst "open" day ever. at least bitcoinorama did some interviews and took some video. hashfast blows.

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Hell?

Quote from: iikun on August 07, 2013, 10:32:55 AM

Quote from: HashFast on August 06, 2013, 07:12:39 PM

Thanks to everyone that came out for our Office visit in San Jose this morning!
(hopefully some of them will post about it

John

But you made them sign an NDA so they can't talk about it. Congratulations

lol. NDA. bullcrap.

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Quote from: HashFast on August 06, 2013, 07:12:39 PM

Thanks to everyone that came out for our Office visit in San Jose this morning!
(hopefully some of them will post about it

John

But you made them sign an NDA so they can't talk about it. Congratulations

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watching with interest

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Being "full" is kinda the opposite idea of having an "open house". Did they offer another event or to reschedule?

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are they working on scrypt asic?

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I'm under NDA and I am not sure if I can say any details. I will say everything went well. I came to alleviate my doubts and my doubts have been relieved. They are working hard. Some of the people that came to Hashfast are from out of town traveling long distances. So, it seems like people are really serious about ASIC mining.

Dude, if you are unsure, just allow them to proof read what you wish to post prior. Then it's win-win for both Hashfast and the forum.

Otherwise you're sitting on info that may be favourable for them to let people know, or rightly sensitive, but you could always confirm and keep all parties happy. Wink

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Quote from: dan99 on August 06, 2013, 11:17:16 PM

..a working model of the asic chip ..

Does not exist. Only fpga , ala KNC.

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Quote from: dan99 on August 06, 2013, 11:17:16 PM

I mean can someone who went to their office or showroom please have the Videos of their factory/office and photos of Simon and his partners and a working model of the asic chip and a complete Q&A write up posted in here..

Ill volunteer next time to do this..

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