Topic: Hate a DT1 member? Or two? All of them? Post your grievances here. UNMODERATED (Read 2011 times)

Another old thread bumped. First this and now I am here. Is this some kind of team work or just a co-incidence from Congratulations Ratimov. and RajaDen? Although this one is a general thread and other one was against a specific user.

Bitcointalk become boring lately?

I agree there is nothing better right now, and it is a benefit to have a system where users can post feedback I wasn't arguing that fact.  Just wish there was a better way to capture true feedback....but with subjective systems it's tough and by no means do I want It centralized so i default to escrow most of the time.

That's not for me to speculate. I respect his decision and strongly disagree with it.

it's called an owlcatz.

I hate that I can't figure out what kind of animal is in owlcatz's avatar.  I have come to the conclusion it's neither an owl nor a cat, but what is it?  A skunk, raccoon, badger?  I don't fucking know, and it's just killing me.

See here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kwh-is-no-longer-on-this-forum-5108406

Yeah, I don't know what's up with marlboroza not wanting to be on DT, and if KWH isn't on DT it's probably something that ought to be discussed.  He hasn't been as active lately as he used to be, but he's one of the good guys from what I've seen of his posts.  

I'm very curious as to why marlboroza wants out, but I'm not sure if we'll get an explanation.  Meanwhile, squeals of joy can be heard coming from the general direction of the troll's den, and the sound is sickening.  

Nice to hear wheelz weigh in on this, and I don't disagree with him about imperfect the trust system is--but it's better than nothing and at least you'd have a good idea of how trustworthy wheelz is because of it.  Were there no system, he'd have no documented reputation, which would suck for him and would benefit scammers exclusively.  

Edit: thanks, suchmoon.  Guess I missed that thread entirely--but it doesn't surprise me that he left, and he's not the only one driven away by the constant drama.  Probably won't be the last, either.

I hate marlboroza and KWH for leaving us short-staffed in this scammer infestation. Technically this is off topic because marlboroza is no longer in DT1 and KWH was not in it (I think) but the thread is unmoderated so who cares.

Although if you come back I'll forgive you in a heartbeat. Please.

I rarely come to this side of the forum and it's generally because of this.  I'll give my 2 cents if anyone cares, to me trust is squarely built to help guide of who to trust and not to trust when transferring coin from one person to another and trying to keep things as safe as possible (maybe other people use it for other reasons but that's what I look at it for).  Clearly DT in its state is broken so I dont use it at all.  I used to give trust ratings based on my trade experience but I rarely do anymore because well I dont use it.  Here's my stance, if I've traded with you before and generally trust you I will probably send coin back and forth without escrow.  If I dont know you and never traded with you and I'm not comfortable exposing myself with the size of the trade....USE ESCROW. always.  I always encourage people to use escrow if they want with me, it's not offensive, that's how we can keep this forum working without going off the rails.  I've done trades with people that were "red" and "green" and newbies on their first post...all done properly it always goes smooth.

If people leave me negative feedback, ok fine.  Not everyone IRL have 100% liked me why would I expect that to be different here.  Read it, if it's relevant change what you've done, if not move on.  Who cares?  

I dont know just seems like a lot of time is spent internet fighting that could be spent elsewhere.  I have never made a custom trust list because I feel I dont need to.  Either I trust you, I dont or I dont know you.  Use escrow based on that and I'm good.  

DT will never be perfect because personalities will get in the way as with any subjective system in life.  DT seems broke, has there been any better ideas to fix it?

Edit: I've met phillipma IRL and the dude has gone WAYYY out of his way to help me out multiple times.  That is one of the most legit members on this forum definately

Known scammers? did i scam someone? you fucking retarded.Your fucking cult is abusing the trust system but hey,your time will come.
Thats clearly a big statement calling those people in the thread known scammers,ill say just fuck off.

I can see that you must be referring to supporters of lauda since that would seem to be the most fitting explanation
for what you describe here

double standards are very destructive here

I rarely hate but I do dislike double standards.. Like when a certain someone calls me immoral for hiring my friends in signature campaigns (calling it circle-jerking) but as soon as they find themselves managing a campaign they hire their more or less inactive friend without that guy even having to apply. Always creating the narrative to fit their own agenda. Like when you say you can't count profits in BTC, you have to look at them in $. Yet later you are comparing talks in $ to be like Japanese. Hmm.

Not naming names, although it's quite obvious who I'm referring to. Just had to vent a bit.

Okay. I see.

Yes but Lauda is on your own trust list and yet you are unwilling to discuss events that you know have proven him untrustworthy. So the entire thing is ludicrous. You can call him out for "meriting"  a post fighting for a fairer system (because the system they are advocating will not favour scammers it will actually make them easier to spot). When you are directly advocating and including in your trust list a PROVEN liar whom is implicated in many other shady dealings. We can analyze them in detail if you need further clarification. If you resist then you are willfully trying to assist untrustworthy persons into dangerous positions of trust.

There is  no other way to look at it. Unless you can explain?

This kind of argument it self defeating for all that voice it.

Sorry, on mobile so I can't put a lot of effort into this now. Will make a more detailed post later. One example is that Defcon23 is on that list. He tried selling silver plated bars as actual .999 silver bars. He also self escrowed and threatened to dox people etc.

I am not going to discuss Lauda but he is already distrusted on that list right?

Known scammers like who? you mean proven scammers?

List them with the proof.

Also keep in mind lauda is a proven liar and proven protector and promoter of scams therefore equal to a scammer according to suchmoons reasoning and red trust allocation. Yet you have no issue supporting him. That's not even factoring in the escrow business and the probable extortion attempt.

I think he is referring to OG meriting this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/remove-corruption-from-dt-union-trust-list-9604-5103988. That post encourages people to use a trust list, filled with known scammers and toxic people. Apparently his childish feud with Lauda weighs heavier than "protecting the community".

Read:

Just because you disagree with QS's posts doesn't mean they can't be high quality. Merit != Trust.

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

@ OG I have deleted most of my trust ratings to you.... . Kindly do the same thanks and please.

Rewriting history again, aren't we? I actually supported you in the Betcoin debacle. It was somewhere between eoakland and owlcatz conflicts that I realized how petty and thin-skinned you are, and how you're using the trust system to adjudicate your personal squabbles. Particularly with owlz, whom ironically I had some verbal confrontation with, and look - NO RED TRUST ENSUED. Weird, huh? It's almost as if rational people can resolve issues or something.


How about you being buddies with a known escrow scammer then? Does that affect your credibility at all? Or does that only apply to people you don't like?

BTW I've had quite a few disagreements with your "enemies" (Lauda, TMAN, ...) and the major difference between them and you is that I can reason with them and when we end up disagreeing I can at least understand their reasoning. But nice try spinning this into yet another Lauda thing. Two wrongs don't make it right and all that. Careful with those rocks and your glass house. It's a shame that you still don't own a mirror.

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