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Topic: Hate a DT1 member? Or two? All of them? Post your grievances here. UNMODERATED - page 2. (Read 2027 times)

legendary
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Go New England....Just not the Pats.
Lol, how do you live with yourself if you're in NE?  You must not be a native, else you'd be lynched in the streets for such treason. 
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Ah, interesting.  OK then, I'm wondering how in hell otrkid1970 put together your (incorrect, but close) location based on your username.  That's strange, very strange.

Haven't been through Joizy in years, and I don't miss all those toll booths off the turnpike--I used to drive to Philly to visit a friend of mine who was attending school at UPenn, and then he lived in NJ for a while.  Can't remember the town, but it was quite a few exits down off the turnpike.  That must've been 2004 or so, last time I was in NJ.

This is a much better feeling than ripping other DT members to shreds, IMO.  

I do agree with Lauda that sometimes burying the hatchet can backfire.  Rambotnic (not a DT member) just proved that to me, though I think there have been other examples where I wished I hadn't removed a neg or had negged someone I didn't.  On the other hand, I'm down with Theymos's request for de-escalation of squabbles, and I do think we can all coexist somewhat peacefully here, even with major disagreements.  They flare up and die down and have done so for years.  If we can keep it in the sub-smouldering stage, that would be a major victory--and an achievable one at that.

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brain washed McDonalds fan
A'ight, you got me there even though I haven't partaken in their fare in quite some time.  I'm less sure about your attack on my IQ, but you're free to believe what you wish.


He had an ad in the Goods section in the past. Claimed he he lived in in Ma.
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sorry Phillip im in Ma. too North Adams near the VT. line. i just don't agree with you.
Did you just give away a whole bunch of info about where Philipma1957 lives? 

If all three of us are New Englanders, why is it you write like you're from nowhere the English language is ever spoken?  Just curious.  Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.

Go New England....Just not the Pats.
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Ah, interesting.  OK then, I'm wondering how in hell otrkid1970 put together your (incorrect, but close) location based on your username.  That's strange, very strange.

Haven't been through Joizy in years, and I don't miss all those toll booths off the turnpike--I used to drive to Philly to visit a friend of mine who was attending school at UPenn, and then he lived in NJ for a while.  Can't remember the town, but it was quite a few exits down off the turnpike.  That must've been 2004 or so, last time I was in NJ.

This is a much better feeling than ripping other DT members to shreds, IMO.  

I do agree with Lauda that sometimes burying the hatchet can backfire.  Rambotnic (not a DT member) just proved that to me, though I think there have been other examples where I wished I hadn't removed a neg or had negged someone I didn't.  On the other hand, I'm down with Theymos's request for de-escalation of squabbles, and I do think we can all coexist somewhat peacefully here, even with major disagreements.  They flare up and die down and have done so for years.  If we can keep it in the sub-smouldering stage, that would be a major victory--and an achievable one at that.


Cry more retard.
All of you tagged me because i wanted money to help a person ? Cheesy
Even that i ask the money after the "job".
Well done mr moralist who don't go after all the illegal stuff going around.
You are to stupid and blind american brain washed McDonalds fan to understand the world after your keyboard.
We both know how "smart" you were before google.
Keep trying to wash your hands with your under the average iq.

We all know how retards like you, lauda, tman and owlcatz running this forum.
Let's take a look how i were silenced in first place by TMAN ruining my feedback for nothing saying "I don't trust this person" just because i exposed owlcatz retarded behavior after loosing a free giveaway.
Of course as his proud gender shemale girlfriend, owlcatz tagged me for the same reason.
Not to mention the drug addict and highly abusive virtual keyboard Lauda just waited to do the same.
Sadly i didn't expect you as very big google fan who like to read things that do not understand to not realize few things.
Things that's not your business.
Things that cannot harm anyone but only help.
You can try to twist my words, that doesn't make it true, only your gaylord company of abusers will support your manipulation.
If i were what you saying, i would just spend 80$ and buy account to continue whatever i wanted to do.
Even that 80$ account would be much better than mine, but hey, don't worry about, you will grow up someday to understand what i mean.
legendary
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Ah, interesting.  OK then, I'm wondering how in hell otrkid1970 put together your (incorrect, but close) location based on your username.  That's strange, very strange.

Haven't been through Joizy in years, and I don't miss all those toll booths off the turnpike--I used to drive to Philly to visit a friend of mine who was attending school at UPenn, and then he lived in NJ for a while.  Can't remember the town, but it was quite a few exits down off the turnpike.  That must've been 2004 or so, last time I was in NJ.

This is a much better feeling than ripping other DT members to shreds, IMO.  

I do agree with Lauda that sometimes burying the hatchet can backfire.  Rambotnic (not a DT member) just proved that to me, though I think there have been other examples where I wished I hadn't removed a neg or had negged someone I didn't.  On the other hand, I'm down with Theymos's request for de-escalation of squabbles, and I do think we can all coexist somewhat peacefully here, even with major disagreements.  They flare up and die down and have done so for years.  If we can keep it in the sub-smouldering stage, that would be a major victory--and an achievable one at that.

Edit:
brain washed McDonalds fan
A'ight, you got me there even though I haven't partaken in their fare in quite some time.  I'm less sure about your attack on my IQ, but you're free to believe what you wish.

legendary
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sorry Phillip im in Ma. too North Adams near the VT. line. i just don't agree with you.
Did you just give away a whole bunch of info about where Philipma1957 lives? 

If all three of us are New Englanders, why is it you write like you're from nowhere the English language is ever spoken?  Just curious.  Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.

I am a Native New Yorker

I live in Howell,NJ   more then  20 years

I have relatives in

NY
CT
NH

So northeaster is a better description for me.
legendary
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Make that 4 of us; I'll be there!
Lol, we're all a salty bunch of nuts and have the worst drivers in all of the US (especially the Massholes), but apparently there's a lot of bitcoiners up here. 

Also, I think he was just trying to make a guess based on the name, which isn't even close.
Then that's one hell of an association based just on his username, one which I would not have made in a million years.  Makes me think ortkid knows more than he's letting on, and makes me even more curious as to whether he actually lives in NE.  It would explain the attitude.
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I had excluded you long before any of this drama and before you excluded me so I'm not the one pretending and pushing a narrative here. I have also spoken out against your petty ratings well before all this. You're just too stubborn to admit that neg-trusting someone for posting in your thread or criticizing you was a mistake.

"Most trusted user" is not a title you bestow upon yourself, it's something that should be left for others to decide. This shameless tooting of your own horn is just one more reason to not trust your judgement.

I’m aware. Your agenda towards me was clear from day 1.

I didn’t give myself the most trusted user title. I earned it over a period of many years of trustworthy behavior. It is a title I no longer hold (a known doxxer and enabling auction manipulator has it now, which was celebrated by the same user who's auction manipulation he was enabling), but claiming I gave it to myself is just another pathetic attempt of yours to control the narrative while ignoring facts.

Most agree I am trustworthy and giving me a negative trust rating is not appropriate. Yet Lauda does it and nobody says a word. Nobody ever responded to my questions asking if Lauda’s continued abuse of rmcdermott927 is acceptable, but that’s because they know it isn’t but turn a blind eye because standing up for what’s right gets you attacked for years as I have been...

I’m sorry, but you lose literally all credibility in my eyes defending someone like Lauda as they terrorize honest users with inappropriate feedback practices. I just can’t take anything you say seriously when you’re so willing to turn a blind eye at awful behavior, yet so willing to try and paint a picture of dishonesty where there is none.
legendary
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If all three of us are New Englanders ...  Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.

Make that 4 of us; I'll be there!

Also, I think he was just trying to make a guess based on the name, which isn't even close.

I disagree with your approach to exclude OG, or anyone based on the sole-fact that they've excluded you, but this is a conversation that has been done to death and it isn't unreasonable to distrust their network once they've distrusted you.

I read through the thread briefly and I have found that most of the accusations leveled against Lauda, OGNasty and crew(s) are either too petty to pretend to care or too complicated for me to wrap my head around. The outcome is that both Lauda, OGNasty and even probably a few people that personally dislike me are on my trust-list, because I see them as making the community better.

It's sad to see users like philipma being accused of inflating their own trust, as if that would have any impact, when they are already in the "hall of fame" in terms of the most trusted users. Anybody would be foolish not to trust them. I see these kinds of accusations as malicious and having ulterior motives.
legendary
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sorry Phillip im in Ma. too North Adams near the VT. line. i just don't agree with you.
Did you just give away a whole bunch of info about where Philipma1957 lives? 

If all three of us are New Englanders, why is it you write like you're from nowhere the English language is ever spoken?  Just curious.  Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.
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theres no such thing as "lies" if there are proofs from most of the people that you are a liar and proven extorionist  Roll Eyes
legendary
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According to the Bitcointalk Public Information Project Minerjones is the most trusted user: https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=mosttrusted
legendary
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My ratings aren’t worthless nor is my ego fragile. Your continued attempts to control the narrative with nonsense is noticed. People can review my trust ratings themselves and see they are of value. Don’t pretend that my exclusion is about anything other than retaliation for prior exclusions while I was tasked with being one of only a few DT members willing to risk being publicly unpopular for the accuracy of the trust network. In fact, I’m now being crucified by those whom I excluded for not being able to accurately judge the value of trust ratings. Had I cared about my ego, I would have put myself before the forum and acted in a way that wouldn’t have made unstable users want to enact revenge, as they are doing now.

You can say I’m an idiot for donating so much of my time and money to a community project. You can say I’m a fool for risking my reputation as the most trusted user here in order to maintain a reasonably honest DT network and not empower known extortionists. You saying my ratings aren’t valuable though? That is nonsense. More likely you are blinded by politics and acting irrationally out of emotion.

I had excluded you long before any of this drama and before you excluded me so I'm not the one pretending and pushing a narrative here. I have also spoken out against your petty ratings well before all this. You're just too stubborn to admit that neg-trusting someone for posting in your thread or criticizing you was a mistake.

"Most trusted user" is not a title you bestow upon yourself, it's something that should be left for others to decide. This shameless tooting of your own horn is just one more reason to not trust your judgement.
legendary
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It's about being right or wrong...  Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT?   Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL                      
Lauda has never done a deal via Bitcointalk?  Cheesy Lauda offers escrow services among other things.  Roll Eyes Perhaps you should do a bit more research before typing nonsense. You do realize that P2P trades aren't the only economic activity going on within this forum. Correct?
Which is absolute nonsense; yet more lies being spread by a random alt and then they complain that they get tagged for untrustworthy behavior. Their lack of knowledge is why they are unable to do trades without damaging their own privacy.

I simply never understood  why all of you fight one another.

I excluded  almost everyone from my list due to being attacked for jacking  my score up   and have been off DT1 list for a while.

I don't like getting dragged into  these arguements.
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This is actually what I've observed with quite a few people. The rational decision solely for the individual is to not do anything, i.e. it's not worth getting involved for them. I wouldn't either; being out of DT is simpler/easier/better if one already isn't tagging abusers anyways IMO.

Lies equal untrustworthy behaviour that deserve red tags you say lauda. Shame that none of the other DT members agree with you and actually believe proven liars deserve to be on DT.
legendary
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It's very difficult to trust real people you know and see everyday IRL, not to talk about the anonymous users in a forum full of scammers (even trusted ones like TF and Magicaltux).
Basically trust is not the most accurate word to describe the situation with the trust lists we (the DTs) are into . It's more like to agree with the perception and the reaction in different situations of the user, as you don't have other overview except his participation in the forum.
I don't think there can be real trust here in the forum involved in the trust lists.

The trust feedback is another thing,  a bit more acceptable as you risk some amount based on trust and you can confirm or reject users's trustfulness based on your deals.
legendary
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I simply never understood  why all of you fight one another.
That's the politics/power-part that I hate most about the current DT-system. On the one hand it means DT doesn't just accept things from other DTs, on the other hand it now means some of the biggest names on the forum are fighting each other. I do believe the forum and Bitcoin ecosystem would be better off following theymos' advice:
All that being said, I still discourage retaliatory ratings, and with these changes I encourage people to try to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate rather than trying to use any increased retaliatory power you now have.
- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.
Last time I checked we don't live in an Utopia, do we? From what I've seen, most of the time when such advice was followed around here it turned out to be mistake. Although this mostly has applied to randoms and people that are very-shady like Quickscammer.
legendary
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I simply never understood  why all of you fight one another.
That's the politics/power-part that I hate most about the current DT-system. On the one hand it means DT doesn't just accept things from other DTs, on the other hand it now means some of the biggest names on the forum are fighting each other. I do believe the forum and Bitcoin ecosystem would be better off following theymos' advice:
All that being said, I still discourage retaliatory ratings, and with these changes I encourage people to try to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate rather than trying to use any increased retaliatory power you now have.
- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.

oh I added

OgNasty
suchmoon
sidehack
frodocooper
Lauda

 to my list the last  few days

of course I now jump back up to 671 trust number  vs 221
Adding people to your trust list heavily changes it from DT-view. You're currently at 128: -0 / +13.

One of the reasons I dropped almost  everyone off my list  was I don't know:

 real names phone number and addresses

makes it harder to trust if I can't get to them.
Interesting approach. I don't know nor care about real names or addresses, and I'm certainly not willing to provide mine.
legendary
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I find it pretty funny that this ac2 guy keeps insisting the "Gang" keeps growing... Roll Eyes

I don't even know foxpup myself, as he must be on DT2.

Maybe you could try send him a pm with your issues , as I don't think it's worthy of red trust either? 🤷‍♂️
He already did. It didn't go as well as he hoped:

Look at my trust right now,does their feedback appropriate? accused me of conspiracy by distrusting people that i wanted to? looks like they are abusing the trust system..I am not active for months but i logged in everyday and read some useful threads and then by customizing my trustlist gives me a redtrust?
You know, you might have had a chance at convincing me to remove your negative trust had you not got your accounts mixed up when PMing me about it. What a way to burn an alt. Roll Eyes
legendary
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It's about being right or wrong...  Don't be a pussy your trust is outstanding. Stand up for whats right. would you trust Ognasty with a $ knowing he has a great full history of trades or would you trust Lauda with your $ knowing she has never made a trade deal in her entire history with BCT?   Lauda has a higher Rating than Ognasty LOL                      
Lauda has never done a deal via Bitcointalk?  Cheesy Lauda offers escrow services among other things.  Roll Eyes Perhaps you should do a bit more research before typing nonsense. You do realize that P2P trades aren't the only economic activity going on within this forum. Correct?
Which is absolute nonsense; yet more lies being spread by a random alt and then they complain that they get tagged for untrustworthy behavior. Their lack of knowledge is why they are unable to do trades without damaging their own privacy.

I simply never understood  why all of you fight one another.

I excluded  almost everyone from my list due to being attacked for jacking  my score up   and have been off DT1 list for a while.

I don't like getting dragged into  these arguements.
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This is actually what I've observed with quite a few people. The rational decision solely for the individual is to not do anything, i.e. it's not worth getting involved for them. I wouldn't either; being out of DT is simpler/easier/better if one already isn't tagging abusers anyways IMO.
legendary
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OgNasty  has done a lot of good trades  but he has freaked over a few guys escrows.

I think that’s a bit of a misconception. I’ve actually helped quite a few escrow agents here. I’ve directed users looking for escrow to minerjones, Blazed, krogomanhattan, and you philipma. If you think my warnings about scam escrows are freaking out, I urge you to invest in the next ICO Lauda escrows for.  Wink

You’ll be a great addition to the DefaultTrust network. I have no doubt.

A lot really good .

A few I thought were not good.

Say at least 100 good but 2 maybe 3 I thought you were wrong.

But wtf do I know?

Not much if I did I would not have posted on this thread .

Trust list is really hard to create correctly.
One of the reasons I dropped so many off  my list is I did not think I could do it well enough.

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