Topic: Have we left "Bitcoin Discussion" board for spammers, forever?? - page 6. (Read 3025 times)

It doesn't even need to be 10. If you set a 1 merit requirement to reach Junior Member, that would probably stop >95% of the spammers. I don't think that's an unreasonable requirement.

Or, how about this: You gain 5 characters of signature space for every earned merit.

All you can see are bounty and restrict the bounty. But bounty is not the root of the problem. Assume that theymos will remove all bounties for member and lower ranks, what's then? Bitcoin Discussion will become a dead zone? I was expecting the OP could end up with some solution for this question


Though I agree with your bolded words but your first sentence makes me less respect you. Why don't you just ask against him: "Hey, what about remove all the bounties for full member and lower ranks?". LOL

Honestly, I often visit Bitcoin Discussion before as there are still some good discussions in there "before" and I also used to make some topics there. Yeah there are already some spammers that time but it's not the same enormous spammers we were having right now and I also think so that Bitcoin Discussion has been fully invaded by shitposters. I used to spent most of my time reading discussions there that time but now you won't be able to find a good discussion, you won't even be able to find a unique topic that is not posted multiple times.

The main reason I can see why there are too many spammers posting there is to increase their posts counts and to reach their bounty posts quotas. I really want the idea to remove signatures from Jr. Member and Newbies as those two ranks are the ranks of members who usually posts in there. I'm sure that it will lessen spammers posting shits not only in Bitcoin Discussion but to some other boards/sections.
Don't worry, we can still recover that board. All we need is action from Admin, Mods and of course to us fellow members who cares to this Bitcoin Forum.

That's exactly what happens there. A day before, I visited that board and posted on a topic that was almost newly started and didn't have a lot of replies, and I thought it kind of deserves to post something on it and I did it, but what I found today is that topic has grown to 5 to 6 pages already, in a single day, and all you can find there are useless replies from extremely useless spammers. Now, who would open every single page of such a thread to see if there is a post worth reading?


That's what I suggested. Self-moderated threads can have a very big effect on the quality of that board. People starting useful discussions making the threads self-moderated to clean the incoming spam can give us some hope.


I don't completely agree with that since I'm a Member, and I believe I deserve to wear a signature because I have earned my position. I was a Newbie when Merit system was introduced, and I reached this rank because, I think, I have been contributing something to every discussion that I have been a part of. Removing signatures for Jr. members can do the work because they cannot reach Member rank without earning Merits, and if someone can manage to earn at least 10 Merits, I believe they deserve to have the right to wear a signature.

It is, according to the guy I quoted above. We don't want to punish the entire community by letting them participate in signature campaigns just because some bounty whores are getting paid to spam with Junior Member accounts. Maybe we can ban signatures for junior members or find another workaround.

Most of those suggestions are honestly very biased and would only work in the favor of the high ranked accounts.

The problem is not paid signatures in general. When the merit system was implemented, juniors were removed of clickable signatures. But they can still have (non-clickable) signatures, and many bounties pay them for posting crap with those. So the spam didn't decrease (much?).

Signatures up to junior member of even to member have to be removed completely, and there have been other many good proposals that they will never be implemented or will take ages until they do.

Well that means you're okay with the paid signature campaigns but just wanted them to be spam free. It's not as same as you saying they should be stopped completely. If you were any serious, you'd not be wearing a signature at all. That's a good first initiative.

I venture in to Bitcoin Discussion fairly regularly. I find that sorting by newly created topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.0;sort=first_post;desc) can help to find some actual discussion - it effectively filters out all the spam mega-threads.

The problem is every thread gets taken over eventually. I might get a couple of good back-and-forth discussion points going within a few hours, but within a day or two there will be a page or two of spam posts appearing between thoughtful posts. At this point I usually unwatch the thread and never return - I have no desire to filter through pages of trash to find the next original thought worth responding to.

I guess my point is that there is still some genuine discussion happening, it is just being drowned out by the crowd. I guess self-moderated topics might be the way to go? I might create a couple sometime.

After reading this - I just decided to devote some of my time on the Bitcoin Discussion board. I hope soon I will end up reporting a bunches of trash.

The quality is dropped because we have stopped trying to get our hands in there anymore. Starting useful and constructive discussions in moderated mode can still show up some quality discussions in that board but only if we try.
And, of course, not every single person, wearing a paid signature, is a spammer. I'm wearing one too, and I can totally speak out about me not being a spammer.


Appreciate that! We need more people doing the same, and along with reporting, you should also think of initiating some discussions that can catch attention of some of the good posters and hopefully we will see some quality in that board again, soon. Just make the threads moderated to not let spammers get in.

The quality of posting in the main section of the forum has dropped dramatically since I joined. Nothing’s going to change unless paid signatures are stopped though (and yes I’m aware that I’m wearing one but I don’t post like the spammers present there).

It really breaks my heart when I visit 'Bitcoin Discussion' board and see the amount of spam there. And believe me, I'm not saying this only to show that I care for the forum, though I do, but I really mean what I'm saying right now and it is really saddening to see this, honestly.

The amount of spam and spammers are increasing all over the forum, but it seems like that board has become their ultimate destination to spit their shit and increase their activities or meet their post thresholds for their campaigns or whatever their reason is behind this. The situation hasn't been this bad before maybe, but now, you cannot find a single thread/topic that hasn't turned into a SMT (Spam Mega Thread), and it takes only a few hours for that to happen. That is how much spam they generate in that board.

I know that almost every single person knows all the things that I just said, but what compelled me to start this discussion is that I wanted to ask everyone that why have we left that board just for them? I know they are way more in quantity than us, but that doesn't justify leaving them all alone, so that they do whatever they want and we won't even touch that board at all.

The forum is named "Bitcointalk" which technically means "Talking about Bitcoin" or something like that. And the place to do that (Bitcoin Discussion board) is covered totally with useless discussions that we don't even want to see. I know that we can't just get them out of there, but at least we can discuss our own things, separately, in that board. That is what Moderated Threads are all about.

I just wonder how nice it would be to have some nice and qualitative Bitcoin discussions with the people that I see and read in Meta or other sections of the forum. What if all of them come together, discussing something regarding Bitcoin? A topic, totally free of spammers, with only quality posters. We can achieve that by creating Moderated Threads in Bitcoin Discussion board where we have the power to delete unsubstantial posts and only leave the ones that contribute something to the discussion.

We should not leave that board only to them. It deserves way more attention from the ones who care for the forum than what it is getting right now.