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December 11, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
Well this thread is quickly turning very annoying. Can you all take your bickering to a PM and stop shoving this shit down everyone's throat? Nobody cares.

Amen
legendary
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December 11, 2013, 11:05:26 AM
Well this thread is quickly turning very annoying. Can you all take your bickering to a PM and stop shoving this shit down everyone's throat? Nobody cares.
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December 11, 2013, 10:54:09 AM
[>butthurt]

Aren't you the d00d pushing "Established, Profitable Business - Pays Every 15 Days w/ Bonus" Cheesy
I thought you'd be happy -- you double your investor base, and are currently managing 15 (fifteen) whole dollars.  That's nothing to sneeze at, ABitInterested.  Why the long face?

I'm in talks with other investors but it's pretty irrelevant. The number of investors will pick up over time, especially when payouts start hitting accounts next week. I am in no rush, the website isn't going anywhere even if nobody else invests everything will still be fine. I'd tell you that you are going to look rather silly in 6 months but trolls don't normally care about appearances. Smiley
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December 11, 2013, 10:37:54 AM
[>butthurt]

Aren't you the d00d pushing "Established, Profitable Business - Pays Every 15 Days w/ Bonus" Cheesy
I thought you'd be happy -- you double your investor base, and are currently managing 15 (fifteen) whole dollars.  That's nothing to sneeze at, ABitInterested.  Why the long face?
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December 11, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Thanks for clarifying; I genuinely didn't realise that these points were what you were referring to.

On balance, while you are right to flag these things (which I agree are not terribly professional) I do think that you are mostly getting involved to discredit a competitor, rather than doing it for the benefit of investors.

It remains a mystery why people seem to think everything under the sun is an MPEx "competitor", or why they insist on assuming and clinging past all reason and historical evidence that I'm not really doing what I'm doing, but instead plotting evil schemes against others for great discreditation and malevolence.

Seriously though, it's pretty transparently a difficulty accepting that not everything is an "amazing company" nor is everyone a "great guy" capable of "incredible success" on the basis of the "you can do anything" mindset. The fact that I don't beat around the bush about it doesn't make the problem any less of a problem, nor does it indicate any hand-tenting motives. This is bitcoin finance; it's not the place to be concerned with niceness and trying and so forth. Get your shit wrong, you'll get it pointed out to you, it's as simple as that.

Or at least, it has been since I've been around.

What alternative growing, profitable bitcoin gambling investments are available to investors like us? Not many, I think.

Do your due diligence. And keep in mind that the lack of a known alternative doesn't justify giving money to operations you've gathered won't or can't manage it.

There's not beating around the bush then there is what you do. Most don't mind straightforward comments, no matter how crass. Your collection of complaints on the other hand, well they are just stupid.

Also, why do you type like an imbecile? It appears you are trying to tell the world how smart you are but you sound very stupid in the process.

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great discreditation and malevolence

Got enough hyperbole in there? Also, is discreditation a word and if so is it one you invented?

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hand-tenting motives

Is this like a Bushism or do you just love obscure sounding exaggerations in all cases?

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laudatory... beleaguered

Look at me. Did I mention how smart I am? I'm very smart. Don't you wish you were as smart as me?

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fixing it is required

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that a no-name fuckwit with a two month history (ie, you) does not get the right to an opinion, on any topic or subject

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I speak on this venue backed with the full force and credit of Bitcoin's largest financial entity

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What I say is not optional

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You don't get to push scams here by trying to paint me. Many have tried, and if you'd spent an iota of time figuring shit out, you'd notice they've meanwhile been buried.

Delusions of grandeur.

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Nobody's being dramatic

Your entire persona is dramatized. Every post you make is dramatic. Nearly every sentence you type is dramatic.

Now I would assume that this persona is you acting a complete ass because it draws page views to your various offerings. It's not like this is the first time someone has drummed up business by being an abrasive knucklehead on forums. What always happens though, is that you irritate enough people that eventually your good qualities (do you have any) are drowned out by the number of people that tell everyone to ignore anything you say. You have probably passed your peak of effectiveness already, I'm not going to research your interactions here to find out but you might want to scale back on the ridiculousness.

I know it will be tough. Once you get to "speak your mind" at all times and in whatever manner you choose it's hard to go back to being a decent human. I'm sure we can start a support group if you reach out for help.

Good luck Wink
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December 11, 2013, 06:55:58 AM
Thanks for clarifying; I genuinely didn't realise that these points were what you were referring to.

On balance, while you are right to flag these things (which I agree are not terribly professional) I do think that you are mostly getting involved to discredit a competitor, rather than doing it for the benefit of investors.

It remains a mystery why people seem to think everything under the sun is an MPEx "competitor", or why they insist on assuming and clinging past all reason and historical evidence that I'm not really doing what I'm doing, but instead plotting evil schemes against others for great discreditation and malevolence.

Seriously though, it's pretty transparently a difficulty accepting that not everything is an "amazing company" nor is everyone a "great guy" capable of "incredible success" on the basis of the "you can do anything" mindset. The fact that I don't beat around the bush about it doesn't make the problem any less of a problem, nor does it indicate any hand-tenting motives. This is bitcoin finance; it's not the place to be concerned with niceness and trying and so forth. Get your shit wrong, you'll get it pointed out to you, it's as simple as that.

Or at least, it has been since I've been around.

What alternative growing, profitable bitcoin gambling investments are available to investors like us? Not many, I think.

Do your due diligence. And keep in mind that the lack of a known alternative doesn't justify giving money to operations you've gathered won't or can't manage it.
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December 10, 2013, 11:34:53 PM
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What alternative growing, profitable bitcoin gambling investments are available to investors like us? Not many, I think.

scotjam

Someone points out that you're getting roped into a Three-Card Monte game & will lose all your coin, and your reply is "So which Three-Card Monte game should i bet on"?  You see no problems with that?
sr. member
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December 10, 2013, 10:37:14 PM
I'm not sure how that qualifies (or justifies) MPOE-PR joining a thread about a Havelock-listed company and throwing insults and allegations around without backing up any assertions.

I thought it would've been pretty clear from my initial post that the problem was OP's empty use of laudatory titles like "industry best" despite OP's clear inability to produce financial reports in a sane manner. To wit:
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Yes, producing reports is a good thing. No, it's not okay to claim you're doing anything "industry best" while you fuck up your reports multiple times and ultimately fail to present them in any reasonable venue.

Thanks for clarifying; I genuinely didn't realise that these points were what you were referring to.

On balance, while you are right to flag these things (which I agree are not terribly professional) I do think that you are mostly getting involved to discredit a competitor, rather than doing it for the benefit of investors.

What alternative growing, profitable bitcoin gambling investments are available to investors like us? Not many, I think.

scotjam
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December 10, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
OP made references to "industry best HTML5 Roulette" and "industry best affiliate program".

If you want to nit-pick and be dramatic about it, no one can make an argument against the HTML5 Roulette game since it has yet to go live, and I believe the affiliate program is actually an industry best since it gives commission based off the amounts waged, whether won or lost by the referral player. Other affiliate programs only give commission based off of net revenues gathered from the referral players.

If you feel the need to spread your opinions on public forums, at least do us a favor and provide some facts and reasoning behind your claims.

If you cannot come up with any of the two, then GTFO.

Nobody's being dramatic but you and the various newbs cultivating blood pressure problems over the notion that standards exist.

Now, read my last sentence again. If it's still not clear to you what the problem is, imagine a "car" with an engine that doesn't run being advertised as having "industry best hubcaps". It's a problem, fixing it is required, the correct response is to fix it, not to try shooing away anyone who notices the broken engine.

Great analogy.   Roll Eyes

The problem is, OP has some sort of knowledge of the HTML5 Roulette game to be released, and it is his opinion that it is an "industry best" HTML5 Roulette game. This is obviously a bit of biased hype, and it might come out and be garbage, and at that point you have the right to criticize it and bash him for claiming it was an "industry best" game. At this point though, you cannot possibly have an opinion (which is that it is NOT an industry best HTML Roulette game) about it as you have no knowledge of the game at all, but still have what must be an itch to broadcast your opinion, however unfounded. What do you think about the affiliate program MPOE-PR? What affiliate program do you believe is the industry's best?
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December 10, 2013, 05:28:07 PM
OP made references to "industry best HTML5 Roulette" and "industry best affiliate program".

If you want to nit-pick and be dramatic about it, no one can make an argument against the HTML5 Roulette game since it has yet to go live, and I believe the affiliate program is actually an industry best since it gives commission based off the amounts waged, whether won or lost by the referral player. Other affiliate programs only give commission based off of net revenues gathered from the referral players.

If you feel the need to spread your opinions on public forums, at least do us a favor and provide some facts and reasoning behind your claims.

If you cannot come up with any of the two, then GTFO.

Nobody's being dramatic but you and the various newbs cultivating blood pressure problems over the notion that standards exist.

Now, read my last sentence again. If it's still not clear to you what the problem is, imagine a "car" with an engine that doesn't run being advertised as having "industry best hubcaps". It's a problem, fixing it is required, the correct response is to fix it, not to try shooing away anyone who notices the broken engine.
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December 10, 2013, 03:06:05 PM
I'm not sure how that qualifies (or justifies) MPOE-PR joining a thread about a Havelock-listed company and throwing insults and allegations around without backing up any assertions.

I thought it would've been pretty clear from my initial post that the problem was OP's empty use of laudatory titles like "industry best" despite OP's clear inability to produce financial reports in a sane manner. To wit:

November results posted:https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=44

Financials: google docs
Metrics: google docs

Notice:

Please disregard the attached update:
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=CBTC#ui-tabs-6
This appears to be some type of error/glitch and has nothing to do with CBTC or our financials.

Update:

Please disregard the "Next dividend" column on Havelock's funds page - That is incorrect, and will be based on results of December, and we intend for it to be larger than the current one from November.

Just so you know:

Link is not working

Check spelling. You meant disregard not regard.

Yes, producing reports is a good thing. No, it's not okay to claim you're doing anything "industry best" while you fuck up your reports multiple times and ultimately fail to present them in any reasonable venue.

OP made references to "industry best HTML5 Roulette" and "industry best affiliate program".

If you want to nit-pick and be dramatic about it, no one can make an argument against the HTML5 Roulette game since it has yet to go live, and I believe the affiliate program is actually an industry best since it gives commission based off the amounts waged, whether won or lost by the referral player. Other affiliate programs only give commission based off of net revenues gathered from the referral players.

If you feel the need to spread your opinions on public forums, at least do us a favor and provide some facts and reasoning behind your claims.

If you cannot come up with any of the two, then GTFO.
hero member
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December 10, 2013, 01:22:55 PM
I'm not sure how that qualifies (or justifies) MPOE-PR joining a thread about a Havelock-listed company and throwing insults and allegations around without backing up any assertions.

I thought it would've been pretty clear from my initial post that the problem was OP's empty use of laudatory titles like "industry best" despite OP's clear inability to produce financial reports in a sane manner. To wit:

November results posted:https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=44

Financials: google docs
Metrics: google docs

Notice:

Please disregard the attached update:
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=CBTC#ui-tabs-6
This appears to be some type of error/glitch and has nothing to do with CBTC or our financials.

Update:

Please disregard the "Next dividend" column on Havelock's funds page - That is incorrect, and will be based on results of December, and we intend for it to be larger than the current one from November.

Just so you know:

Link is not working

Check spelling. You meant disregard not regard.

Yes, producing reports is a good thing. No, it's not okay to claim you're doing anything "industry best" while you fuck up your reports multiple times and ultimately fail to present them in any reasonable venue.
sr. member
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December 08, 2013, 06:07:25 PM
Judging by your ignore button (which is quite yellow) it looks like quite a few people have exercised that option.

What is the message you're trying to get across? That Havelock is a scam? That CBTC is a scam? How do you justify this?

Scotjam, thanks for pointing out the ignore option - had not noticed that. So glad to be rid of her vile posts.

But please, please, stop encouraging her. She's obscene and irrelevant, and will only take your questions as an invitation to continue to high jack this thread.
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December 08, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
Is this your job?  Who pays for this, and how do you contribute?  Is whoever paying for you to do this getting their money worth?  All you've done is insult people and added nothing to the discussion about the company or the stock price.  If you have a legitimate complaint or issue about the company or their share price, maybe you could post that instead of trolling?

Or maybe you could stop and think for a minute, on either of these two points: 1. that a no-name fuckwit with a two month history (ie, you) does not get the right to an opinion, on any topic or subject; 2. that no-name fuckwits proclaiming that x has value or y has "no value" matters not one whit. I speak on this venue backed with the full force and credit of Bitcoin's largest financial entity, and for that matter, the oldest. What I say is not optional, and especially not to random no-name fuckwits born this October. Which means you.

The organisation that MPOE-PR speaks on behalf of is very credible, and well known for being quite intellectually and financially elitist.
For those who are not familiar, MPOE is linked to MPEX which is I believe the oldest bitcoin-denominated exchange (i.e. a Havelock competitor) - review here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108

I'm not sure how that qualifies (or justifies) MPOE-PR joining a thread about a Havelock-listed company and throwing insults and allegations around without backing up any assertions.

MPOE-PR - You may think that what you say is "not optional", but anything that anyone says is definitely optional reading for anyone else on these forums, simply because anyone can click the ignore button on anyone else. Judging by your ignore button (which is quite yellow) it looks like quite a few people have exercised that option.

What is the message you're trying to get across? That Havelock is a scam? That CBTC is a scam? How do you justify this?
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December 08, 2013, 12:25:15 PM
Is this your job?  Who pays for this, and how do you contribute?  Is whoever paying for you to do this getting their money worth?  All you've done is insult people and added nothing to the discussion about the company or the stock price.  If you have a legitimate complaint or issue about the company or their share price, maybe you could post that instead of trolling?

Or maybe you could stop and think for a minute, on either of these two points: 1. that a no-name fuckwit with a two month history (ie, you) does not get the right to an opinion, on any topic or subject; 2. that no-name fuckwits proclaiming that x has value or y has "no value" matters not one whit. I speak on this venue backed with the full force and credit of Bitcoin's largest financial entity, and for that matter, the oldest. What I say is not optional, and especially not to random no-name fuckwits born this October. Which means you.
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December 07, 2013, 02:45:27 PM
Okay then. Great report CasinoBitco.in, I've yet to see such a comprehensive report from other securities, and I hope you keep this up.

Are you really paid to post in thread and basically troll? Who pays you to do this?

Seriously, go shill somewhere else. The fact that you either don't have the ability or the patience to read and understand your environment doesn't mean that bs beleaguered with errors and problems constitutes "comprehensive reports", just like the other shills' problems accepting their failures to read and understand doesn't make what they're shilling for any better.

You don't get to push scams here by trying to paint me. Many have tried, and if you'd spent an iota of time figuring shit out, you'd notice they've meanwhile been buried.

Well, at least your still throwing empty jargon like "scam" around.  Roll Eyes

I won't respond anymore to you, don't want this to turn into "one of those" threads. I'm not paid to waste people's time like you are.
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December 07, 2013, 01:23:38 PM
Your posts so far in this thread:

Well, at least you're still throwing empty jargon like "industry best" around.  Roll Eyes


I'm doing my job. I'm paid specifically to post in threads distinguished by empty words and sugar shill sprinkles like yourself.

Bring a valid point (that'd mean, about the actual topic, not me personally) or stfu.

Seriously, go shill somewhere else. The fact that you either don't have the ability or the patience to read and understand your environment doesn't mean that bs beleaguered with errors and problems constitutes "comprehensive reports", just like the other shills' problems accepting their failures to read and understand doesn't make what they're shilling for any better.

You don't get to push scams here by trying to paint me. Many have tried, and if you'd spent an iota of time figuring shit out, you'd notice they've meanwhile been buried.

(not including the text of posts you've replied with).

Is this your job?  Who pays for this, and how do you contribute?  Is whoever paying for you to do this getting their money worth?  All you've done is insult people and added nothing to the discussion about the company or the stock price.  If you have a legitimate complaint or issue about the company or their share price, maybe you could post that instead of trolling?
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December 07, 2013, 01:17:08 PM
They really haven't shown profitability in the sportsbook yet tho. I think that is the biggest concern!

It's true that it is only marginal profitability, but surely the fact that it is no longer a drag on the business should be worth something (if they can keep it that way). The last two months, the sportsbook was -87 and -35; this month +2.4. The trajectory of sports definitely seems to be in the right direction but the BTC and $ denominated share price went down (a bit and a lot respectively).

The only way I could see to justify this is if a) CBTC was massively overpriced for the last couple of months (or is very illiquid now), or b) you don't believe the sportsbook trajectory and believe instead that there is huge overhang risk from sports and we just got lucky this month. Does that make sense?

scotjam

Not terribly concerned about the sportsbook profit. Attractive lines and the occasional sports bet win are like a hook in the lip of a gambler. A gambler that will linger and spend in the more profit-reliable casino. The lines/max bets just can't be so attractive as to risk the war chest, but I think CBTC has figured this out.

As regards the stock price, who knows? Small trading market, fiat rate fluctuations, fickle short-term investing, all play a role to some extent. Personally, I'm happy to re-invest at a bargain and be spared the temptation to sell a run-up would surely provoke. My only real concern with the lower stock price is a potential buy-out (remember satoshidice). But I trust Tim is in it for the long haul.


The dividend plays a part.  Lots of short term investors just got their payoff and are looking for something else.  Things are looking promising for the next year.
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December 07, 2013, 10:48:29 AM
They really haven't shown profitability in the sportsbook yet tho. I think that is the biggest concern!

It's true that it is only marginal profitability, but surely the fact that it is no longer a drag on the business should be worth something (if they can keep it that way). The last two months, the sportsbook was -87 and -35; this month +2.4. The trajectory of sports definitely seems to be in the right direction but the BTC and $ denominated share price went down (a bit and a lot respectively).

The only way I could see to justify this is if a) CBTC was massively overpriced for the last couple of months (or is very illiquid now), or b) you don't believe the sportsbook trajectory and believe instead that there is huge overhang risk from sports and we just got lucky this month. Does that make sense?

scotjam

Not terribly concerned about the sportsbook profit. Attractive lines and the occasional sports bet win are like a hook in the lip of a gambler. A gambler that will linger and spend in the more profit-reliable casino. The lines/max bets just can't be so attractive as to risk the war chest, but I think CBTC has figured this out.

As regards the stock price, who knows? Small trading market, fiat rate fluctuations, fickle short-term investing, all play a role to some extent. Personally, I'm happy to re-invest at a bargain and be spared the temptation to sell a run-up would surely provoke. My only real concern with the lower stock price is a potential buy-out (remember satoshidice). But I trust Tim is in it for the long haul.
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December 07, 2013, 09:54:41 AM
Okay then. Great report CasinoBitco.in, I've yet to see such a comprehensive report from other securities, and I hope you keep this up.

Are you really paid to post in thread and basically troll? Who pays you to do this?

Seriously, go shill somewhere else. The fact that you either don't have the ability or the patience to read and understand your environment doesn't mean that bs beleaguered with errors and problems constitutes "comprehensive reports", just like the other shills' problems accepting their failures to read and understand doesn't make what they're shilling for any better.

You don't get to push scams here by trying to paint me. Many have tried, and if you'd spent an iota of time figuring shit out, you'd notice they've meanwhile been buried.
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