[Havelock] HASH - Mining Equipment Sales, Contracts, More

hayek

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IPO Magic / MPOE-PR / NotLambchop

I did not know those MPEX folks were still around.

For anyone curious:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/heres-where-i-spew-my-accusations-against-mpoe-all-are-welcome-102333
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MPEx

@IPO Magic

Ok. Benny and Branny had both their names on a property from 2007. I believe the Bitcoin white paper was published in 2008. You have shown how Benny/Branny saved money converting an already owned LLC to another that Branny could use.

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I'm all for educating the great unwashed, but you're starting to try my patience. You do realize how embarrassing it is for me to be seen conversing with U, right? Thank goodness for sock accounts.

And I keep asking for you to educate me but you won't do it. All you've done is shown two brothers working together and helping one another - 7 years ago. This market didn't even exist then.

I hate for you to continue to embarrass yourself like this but could you please address my question:

Can you show me how any of this proves Benny and Branny own part of each other's companies.

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Quote from: augustocroppo on July 23, 2014, 10:56:45 AM

Quote from: twentyseventy on July 23, 2014, 10:23:17 AM

Augusto - are you new to this? This is how at least one of Havelock's other offerings (RENT) was structured as well. This should come as no surprise.

Perhaps I am new to "this"... I still find very unusual a Honk Kong company form another Honk Kong company and then appoint a director to issue unregistered securities for a "parent" USA company via a Panama virtual exchange. I still do not see any advantage in this complex relationship of business entities, except that if the shit hits the fan, there will be no easy legal recourse for the potential investors recover any loss due fraud or mismanagement.

Because normal US LLCs/Corporations/etc are subject to very strict SEC regulations regarding selling shares of their company to outsiders.

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Quote from: twentyseventy on July 23, 2014, 10:23:17 AM

Augusto - are you new to this? This is how at least one of Havelock's other offerings (RENT) was structured as well. This should come as no surprise.

Perhaps I am new to "this"... I still find very unusual a Honk Kong company form another Honk Kong company and then appoint a director to issue unregistered securities for a "parent" USA company via a Panama virtual exchange. I still do not see any advantage in this complex relationship of business entities, except that if the shit hits the fan, there will be no easy legal recourse for the potential investors recover any loss due fraud or mismanagement.

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Quote from: hayek on July 23, 2014, 10:20:43 AM

Quote from: IPO Magic on July 23, 2014, 09:58:54 AM

Quote from: hayek on July 23, 2014, 09:55:42 AM

IPO Magic, are you NotLambchop? I just want to make sure I address the right people and not sock puppets (if applicable) when I post.

Yes! Go on!

Re. your edit: I can not explain to you that which is readily apparent to normals for the same reason I can't explain to a rock why it is a rock--it just can't be done. You most likely don't understand this either, but that's OK--God don't make junk!
I'm sure you're gud enuf at less challenging tasks, like "investing."

Thank you. Is it correct for me to say that you are sharing your "gut" instinct?
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No, it is not.

Quote from: Branny on July 12, 2014, 08:55:21 PM

...I made the choice to pay the $50-$75 conversion fee to rename & reorient the company from my brother and I's old paintball LLC to the real estate related one. Because of this on bank documents the entity shows as a 13 year old one and not as a 5 or 1 year entity. ...

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Quote from: Branny on July 12, 2014, 08:55:21 PM

As far a background report, i'm not sure what report you're talking about. My name is on 2 properties I purchased with my brother in 2007...

I'm all for educating the great unwashed, but you're starting to try my patience. You do realize how embarrassing it is for me to be seen conversing with U, right? Thank goodness for sock accounts.

@R_Lem: No. "The whole world's looking for me, but it hasn't found me yet!"--Daniil Kharms

@twentyseventy: I liek ur new tinfoil hat!

Relax and feel the magic!

~IPO MAgic

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Quote from: twentyseventy on July 23, 2014, 10:23:17 AM

IPO Magic / MPOE-PR / NotLambchop - if you're going to troll, please do so with less frequency.

I thought Mpex closed, why is MP's gang still bashing everything in securities? Did they move everything over to bitbet? What game are they running now?

@Notlambchop is that you Nicolae? I hear people are looking for you?

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Jesus christ, people - keep the damn thread legible.

IPO Magic / MPOE-PR / NotLambchop - if you're going to troll, please do so with less frequency.

Augusto - are you new to this? This is how at least one of Havelock's other offerings (RENT) was structured as well. This should come as no surprise.

hayek

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Quote from: IPO Magic on July 23, 2014, 09:58:54 AM

Quote from: hayek on July 23, 2014, 09:55:42 AM

IPO Magic, are you NotLambchop? I just want to make sure I address the right people and not sock puppets (if applicable) when I post.

Yes! Go on!

Re. your edit: I can not explain to you that which is readily apparent to normals for the same reason I can't explain to a rock why it is a rock--it just can't be done. You most likely don't understand this either, but that's OK--God don't make junk!
I'm sure you're gud enuf at less challenging tasks, like "investing."

Thank you. Is it correct for me to say that you are sharing your "gut" instinct?

Just to clarify my question for you. I'm asking you to explain how you are drawing the conclusion that Benny/Branny own part of each other's companies with what you've shared so far. "I can't explain to a rock why it is a rock" Sounds more like you are telling me I am dense and you cannot explain to me why I am dense. I'm asking you about this IPO, not my character or demeanor.

So to use your metaphor. I'm not asking you to explain to the rock why it is a rock. I'm asking you to explain, using the citation you have provided, how those citations prove Benny and Branny own part of each other's companies without appealing to majority or ad hom or making use of some other fallacy.

Otherwise thanks for sharing your opinion because that's all it is.

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Quote from: Benny1985 on July 23, 2014, 09:39:40 AM

Quote from: IPO Magic on July 23, 2014, 09:32:56 AM

So you asked ur bro to put up some bids, and he's all like "hell no!" That it?

I've made the conscious choice to not invest in his company to ensure that our businesses are separate. This included the share purchase he is talking about.

Lol, OK. I totally believe you now Cheesy

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Quote from: hayek on July 23, 2014, 09:55:42 AM

IPO Magic, are you NotLambchop? I just want to make sure I address the right people and not sock puppets (if applicable) when I post.

Yes! Go on!

Re. your edit: I can not explain to you that which is readily apparent to normals for the same reason I can't explain to a rock why it is a rock--it just can't be done. You most likely don't understand this either, but that's OK--God don't make junk!
I'm sure you're gud enuf at less challenging tasks, like "investing."

hayek

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IPO Magic, are you NotLambchop? I just want to make sure I address the right people and not sock puppets (if applicable) when I post.

Edit: Also, if it is so easy to explain why can't you or NotLambchop put it in simple terms for me to understand? If you can't explain something how can you prove you understand what you are trying to say? All I see are accusations of people belonging to a family and having the same last name.

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Quote from: hayek on July 23, 2014, 09:30:54 AM

@NotLambchop
Yes, I saw your post earlier. I still need you to explain to me how that shows Benny is involved in RentalStarter?

Lol, I'm afraid if you still don't get it, you simply lack the mental capacity required for such. Don't feel bad tho, mah kitteh doesn't understand it either, and he's one smart cat!

As far as taking pride in "bringing [shit] to life," your only irrefutable accomplishment is bringing halfwit scammers into Bitcoin.
Cograts!

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Quote from: IPO Magic on July 23, 2014, 09:32:56 AM

So you asked ur bro to put up some bids, and he's all like "hell no!" That it?

I've made the conscious choice to not invest in his company to ensure that our businesses are separate. This included the share purchase he is talking about.

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Quote from: Benny1985 on July 23, 2014, 09:34:13 AM

Certainly. I will provide the document prior to fundraising.

Meanwhile: at which date BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED obtained 40% of Coin Services LCC? Who is JOHN KENTON FREEMAN and what is his track record in financial investments?

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Quote from: augustocroppo on July 23, 2014, 09:23:31 AM

On 28th October 2013 the company BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED was formed by another company, GNL13 LIMITED:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6gZtLSqKPzQUWlhd2lTcm1NMWM/edit?usp=sharing

On 3rd January 2014 the company BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED appointed a new director, JOHN KENTON FREEMAN:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6gZtLSqKPzQY05JZm1MSVNFaEk/edit?usp=sharing

On 3rd January 2014 the company BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED resigned the company GNL13 LIMITED as director:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6gZtLSqKPzQbzltMVAxNDhFejA/edit?usp=sharing

In other words, the company which supposedly owns 40% of Coin Services LCC was formed by an entity completely unrelated to the matter in discussion. Then later appointed a new director know as John Kenton Freeman, an USA national with residential address in China. Now this company is being used to raise funds via unregistered securities issued by a Panama exchange.

That raises more questions: at which date BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED obtained 40% of Coin Services LCC? Who is JOHN KENTON FREEMAN and what is his track record in financial investments?

Quote from: Benny1985 on July 22, 2014, 06:59:38 PM

As such I asked John to provide nominee services while I retained complete control of BTCI Ltd. via a power of attorney and control of the company seals.

So you certainly have a document which proves that, right? Many potential investors would like to see this document and verify the signature of John Kenton Freeman.

Certainly. I will provide the document prior to fundraising.

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Quote from: Branny on July 23, 2014, 09:22:10 AM

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Benny owns 0 shares in RentalStarter.

I'm more than happy to prove to our proposed board of advisors of this.

Additionally I do not own shares in his company.

*Cough*

Quote from: Branny on June 29, 2014, 09:23:08 PM

...I had to call my brother to have him put bids in , it seems someone dumped around a thousand shares at whatever the bids were and drove it down to .002 - going forward I need to make sure i have valid bids in on those kinds of scenarios.
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So you asked ur bro to put up some bids, and he's all like "hell no!" That it?

hayek

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@NotLambchop
Yes, I saw your post earlier. I still need you to explain to me how that shows Benny is involved in RentalStarter?

As for how invested I am, not enough to retire but enough to be content feeling like I helped to bring a new idea/company to life. There have been plenty of opportunities to sell, on multiple exchanges and privately. I've never felt the need to sell.

I don't mean to be a jerk but until you can explain things better or post something no one knows about? Lacking additional clarity I'm worried your line of questioning might end up looking like the witch scene from Monty Python.

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On 28th October 2013 the company BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED was formed by another company, GNL13 LIMITED:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6gZtLSqKPzQUWlhd2lTcm1NMWM/edit?usp=sharing

On 3rd January 2014 the company BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED appointed a new director, JOHN KENTON FREEMAN:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6gZtLSqKPzQY05JZm1MSVNFaEk/edit?usp=sharing

On 3rd January 2014 the company BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED resigned the company GNL13 LIMITED as director:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6gZtLSqKPzQbzltMVAxNDhFejA/edit?usp=sharing

In other words, the company which supposedly owns 40% of Coin Services LCC was formed by an entity completely unrelated to the matter in discussion. Then later appointed a new director know as John Kenton Freeman, an USA national with residential address in China. Now this company is being used to raise funds via unregistered securities issued by a Panama exchange.

That raises more questions: at which date BIG TREND CAPITAL INVESTMENT LIMITED obtained 40% of Coin Services LCC? Who is JOHN KENTON FREEMAN and what is his track record in financial investments?

Quote from: Benny1985 on July 22, 2014, 06:59:38 PM

As such I asked John to provide nominee services while I retained complete control of BTCI Ltd. via a power of attorney and control of the company seals.

So you certainly have a document which proves that, right? Many potential investors would like to see this document and verify the signature of John Kenton Freeman.

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Quote from: NotLambchop on July 23, 2014, 09:19:48 AM

Lol, he props the price, he owns shares, but... he's uninvolved?
How desperate are you to unload your ~~bag of tasty D~~ sharez on a greater fool? Just how "invested" r U? Cheesy

Quote from: Benny1985 on July 23, 2014, 07:00:33 AM

... I am not involved in RentalStarter in any capacity.
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Nah.

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Quote from: thehun on June 28, 2014, 09:34:11 PM

Someone took a big dump... pity I wasn't paying attention to grab some cheap shares.

I had to call my brother to have him put bids in , it seems someone dumped around a thousand shares at whatever the bids were and drove it down to .002 - going forward I need to make sure i have valid bids in on those kinds of scenarios.
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Benny owns 0 shares in RentalStarter.

I'm more than happy to prove to our proposed board of advisors of this.

Additionally I do not own shares in his company.

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Lol, he props the price, he owns shares, but... he's uninvolved?
How desperate are you to unload your ~~bag of tasty D~~ sharez on a greater fool? Just how "invested" r U? Cheesy

Quote from: Benny1985 on July 23, 2014, 07:00:33 AM

... I am not involved in RentalStarter in any capacity.
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Nah.

Quote from: Branny on June 29, 2014, 09:23:08 PM

Quote from: thehun on June 28, 2014, 09:34:11 PM

Someone took a big dump... pity I wasn't paying attention to grab some cheap shares.

I had to call my brother to have him put bids in , it seems someone dumped around a thousand shares at whatever the bids were and drove it down to .002 - going forward I need to make sure i have valid bids in on those kinds of scenarios.
...

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