[HAVELOCK] PETAMINE - 1,150 TH/S HASH RATE (1GH/S per Unit) - page 78.

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Who exactly are these machines targeted towards? I think even small miners don't like anything less than 1th these days. cryptx would have to order 6000 of these bricks, handle customs and shipping as opposed to picking up few hundred locally.

Small miners don't care about the gh/machine they care about the $/gh.

Each cuboid is 768gh so 6000 would give petamine ~5PH.

Petamine could also save even more money by building the asics themselves using the opensource design.

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Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 06:35:37 PM

Quote from: spartan82 on June 10, 2014, 06:25:14 PM

^^^ exactly what he said. Don't forget all that mucking around cooling the miners, maintaining them, setting everything up, I still think PETA is better off at this rate. Let them worry about keeping everything running smooth, online, paying electricity bills and ill just kick back collect my divs every week. Hell of a lot easier for someone like me anyway

Heres an idea: what if PETAMINE built some of those sexy new AM machines?

Quote from: friedcat on June 10, 2014, 02:59:38 AM

If they can match hashratios production costs, they would spend less than $0.8/gh. Much better than the $1.8/gh they are currently spending on reinvestment HW from bitfury.

Who exactly are these machines targeted towards? I think even small miners don't like anything less than 1th these days. cryptx would have to order 6000 of these bricks, handle customs and shipping as opposed to picking up few hundred locally.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 10, 2014, 07:42:05 PM

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each RX-Box needs a 800W PSU, that is about $260(BTC0.4). So Rockminer: $1.5/gh, ~1.2w/gh.

That must be the most expensive 800w psu I've ever heard of.

You can use a cheap $10 modded server psu or a $50 atx psu should work fine.

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And Petamine is under their way to reduce the power consumption, to ~0.75w/gh.

Once you add cooling it will end up around 1w/gh. (Assuming their cooling setup is relatively efficient)

It will only get better over time I'm sure. Cooling isn't that large I'm sure. Split up over a couple of petahash worth of miners I'm sure it won't be 0.25w/gh

Considering this is their current specification and they are recruiting developers and team members to make that generation more efficient I can see the old technology by gen standards getting a second life and improving as time passes by so these numbers may be for present but not the future

That's the beauty of investing in this mob, they seem to know what they are doing and replacing old hardware with new before its even outdated is a big move to show investors PETAs level of commitment to this operation

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Quote from: spartan82 on June 10, 2014, 07:26:06 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 07:17:42 PM

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each RX-Box needs a 800W PSU, that is about $260(BTC0.4). So Rockminer: $1.5/gh, ~1.2w/gh.

That must be the most expensive 800w psu I've ever heard of.

You can use a cheap $10 modded server psu or a $50 atx psu should work fine.

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And Petamine is under their way to reduce the power consumption, to ~0.75w/gh.

Once you add cooling it will end up around 1w/gh. (Assuming their cooling setup is relatively efficient)

It will only get better over time I'm sure. Cooling isn't that large I'm sure. Split up over a couple of petahash worth of miners I'm sure it won't be 0.25w/gh

Considering this is their current specification and they are recruiting developers and team members to make that generation more efficient I can see the old technology by gen standards getting a second life and improving as time passes by so these numbers may be for present but not the future

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Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 07:17:42 PM

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each RX-Box needs a 800W PSU, that is about $260(BTC0.4). So Rockminer: $1.5/gh, ~1.2w/gh.

That must be the most expensive 800w psu I've ever heard of.

You can use a cheap $10 modded server psu or a $50 atx psu should work fine.

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And Petamine is under their way to reduce the power consumption, to ~0.75w/gh.

Once you add cooling it will end up around 1w/gh. (Assuming their cooling setup is relatively efficient)

It will only get better over time I'm sure. Cooling isn't that large I'm sure. Split up over a couple of petahash worth of miners I'm sure it won't be 0.25w/gh

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each RX-Box needs a 800W PSU, that is about $260(BTC0.4). So Rockminer: $1.5/gh, ~1.2w/gh.

That must be the most expensive 800w psu I've ever heard of.

You can use a cheap $10 modded server psu or a $50 atx psu should work fine.

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And Petamine is under their way to reduce the power consumption, to ~0.75w/gh.

Once you add cooling it will end up around 1w/gh. (Assuming their cooling setup is relatively efficient)

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Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 06:03:19 PM

They are both bad deals as far as I'm concerned. However if I had to chose I would say PETA is a better offering simply because they have track record (along with HW online now).

Here's a simple comparison:

PETAMINE: $3/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.25/kwh hosting
CBCM: $2.7/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.3/kwh hosting
Rockminer: $1.1/gh, ~1.2w/gh, probably less than $0.3/kwh wherever you live.

Just notice that Rockminer does not provide PSU with their product...you have to add that factor into calculation.
each RX-Box needs a 800W PSU, that is about $260(BTC0.4). So Rockminer: $1.5/gh, ~1.2w/gh.

And Petamine is under their way to reduce the power consumption, to ~0.75w/gh.
So in the long turn, PETA hosting fee 0.75w/gh * $0.25/kWh= $0.0001875 /Gh
Rockminer in your home 1.2w/gh * $0.15/kWh= $0.00018 /Gh, plus you have to manage those miners yourself.

So far Rockminer only wins in $/gh, but there are numerous things for home miners to dealt with, $1.5/gh is way below the true cost.
Especially for those who want massive Ghs and don't want to build a datacenter themselves.

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Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 06:35:37 PM

Quote from: spartan82 on June 10, 2014, 06:25:14 PM

^^^ exactly what he said. Don't forget all that mucking around cooling the miners, maintaining them, setting everything up, I still think PETA is better off at this rate. Let them worry about keeping everything running smooth, online, paying electricity bills and ill just kick back collect my divs every week. Hell of a lot easier for someone like me anyway

Heres an idea: what if PETAMINE built some of those sexy new AM machines?

Quote from: friedcat on June 10, 2014, 02:59:38 AM

If they can match hashratios production costs, they would spend less than $0.8/gh. Much better than the $1.8/gh they are currently spending on reinvestment HW from bitfury.

That would be a dream come true, both my investments coming together lol! AM I always said was the way to go for PETA. We've already been stuffed around by cointerra, at least we all know friedcat actually delivers!

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Quote from: spartan82 on June 10, 2014, 06:25:14 PM

^^^ exactly what he said. Don't forget all that mucking around cooling the miners, maintaining them, setting everything up, I still think PETA is better off at this rate. Let them worry about keeping everything running smooth, online, paying electricity bills and ill just kick back collect my divs every week. Hell of a lot easier for someone like me anyway

Heres an idea: what if PETAMINE built some of those sexy new AM machines?

Quote from: friedcat on June 10, 2014, 02:59:38 AM

If they can match hashratios production costs, they would spend less than $0.8/gh. Much better than the $1.8/gh they are currently spending on reinvestment HW from bitfury.

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Quote from: cbcm.co on June 10, 2014, 06:10:46 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 06:03:19 PM

CBCM: $2.7/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.3/kwh hosting

CBCM: $2.7/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.2/kwh hosting

I did make a mistake there but $0.2/gh/month still translates to about $0.28/kwh at 1w/gh ($0.3w/kwh at 0.9w/gh)

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Quote from: Anotheranonlol on June 10, 2014, 06:16:11 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 06:03:19 PM

Rockminer: $1.1/gh, ~1.2w/gh, probably less than $0.3/kwh wherever you live.

See if its still $1.1/gh after shipping and customs

^^^ exactly what he said. Don't forget all that mucking around cooling the miners, maintaining them, setting everything up, I still think PETA is better off at this rate. Let them worry about keeping everything running smooth, online, paying electricity bills and ill just kick back collect my divs every week. Hell of a lot easier for someone like me anyway

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Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 06:03:19 PM

Rockminer: $1.1/gh, ~1.2w/gh, probably less than $0.3/kwh wherever you live.

See if its still $1.1/gh after shipping and customs

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Quote from: jimmothy on June 10, 2014, 06:03:19 PM

CBCM: $2.7/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.3/kwh hosting

CBCM: $2.7/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.2/kwh hosting

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Quote from: spartan82 on June 10, 2014, 05:48:44 PM

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Quote from: Anonymousg64 on June 10, 2014, 04:23:24 PM

1680BTC, they must be paying out of their own pockets aswell to obtain 1PH

Not really. 2BTC for 1.2TH, shipping starts in 2 weeks:
http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=35

Thats 1.67 BTC per TH if you buy one unit. If you buy a PH and spread it out over 3 months, Im sure that price is negotiable.

Of course you could buy some more peta shares instead. Currently a bargain, trading around 4.7 BTC / TH, excluding mandatory sky high hosting fees and with 50% of the mining revenue reserved to pay back a loan; and after thats paid back, 50% locked in to buy upgrades - probably at similar fantastic prices. Id hurry.

I don't think PETAs hosting fees are that far off from this new mob. What are we talking $0.025 per gh? Don't forget PETA has slashed down their hosting fees after scryptx was deployed..

They are both bad deals as far as I'm concerned. However if I had to chose I would say PETA is a better offering simply because they have track record (along with HW online now).

Here's a simple comparison:

PETAMINE: $3/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.25/kwh hosting
CBCM: $2.7/gh , ~1w/gh, $0.3/kwh hosting
Rockminer: $1.1/gh, ~1.2w/gh, probably less than $0.3/kwh wherever you live.

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Cryptx are scammers. They manipulate prices. They sell high at IPO and manipulate prices (limiting the ROI) so you have to sell low if you want to get out. They can buy your shares cheap and have hardware only for 60% of the price. DONT BUY ANYTHING from those scammers.

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Quote from: Puppet on June 10, 2014, 05:44:01 PM

Quote from: Anonymousg64 on June 10, 2014, 04:23:24 PM

1680BTC, they must be paying out of their own pockets aswell to obtain 1PH

Not really. 2BTC for 1.2TH, shipping starts in 2 weeks:
http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=35

Thats 1.67 BTC per TH if you buy one unit. If you buy a PH and spread it out over 3 months, Im sure that price is negotiable.

Of course you could buy some more peta shares instead. Currently a bargain, trading around 4.7 BTC / TH, excluding mandatory sky high hosting fees and with 50% of the mining revenue reserved to pay back a loan; and after thats paid back, 50% locked in to buy upgrades - probably at similar fantastic prices. Id hurry.

I don't think PETAs hosting fees are that far off from this new mob. What are we talking $0.025 per gh? Don't forget PETA has slashed down their hosting fees after scryptx was deployed..

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Quote from: DropDead.Be on June 10, 2014, 05:37:28 PM

Scryptx is a whole other ball game, but I wasn't aware that PETAs shares dropped that low immediately after, I couldn't find it but I stand corrected there if that is the case and my most humble apologies

Somewhere in the PETA charts at 27 January-10 February. Not exactly immediately after IPO, but yes shortly after

my bad
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I really need to learn how to date back and read history of charts so I don't make an ass out of myself lol thanks for the info but! I still won't be investing in that either way, I think PETA and AM have got me well covered. Fingers crossed

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Quote from: Anonymousg64 on June 10, 2014, 04:23:24 PM

1680BTC, they must be paying out of their own pockets aswell to obtain 1PH

Not really. 2BTC for 1.2TH, shipping starts in 2 weeks:
http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=35

Thats 1.67 BTC per TH if you buy one unit. If you buy a PH and spread it out over 3 months, Im sure that price is negotiable.

Of course you could buy some more peta shares instead. Currently a bargain, trading around 4.7 BTC / TH, excluding mandatory sky high hosting fees and with 50% of the mining revenue reserved to pay back a loan; and after thats paid back, 50% locked in to buy upgrades - probably at similar fantastic prices. Id hurry.

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Scryptx is a whole other ball game, but I wasn't aware that PETAs shares dropped that low immediately after, I couldn't find it but I stand corrected there if that is the case and my most humble apologies
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Somewhere in the PETA charts at 27 January-10 February. Not exactly immediately after IPO, but yes shortly after

my bad

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Quote from: DropDead.Be on June 10, 2014, 05:16:14 PM

Quote from: spartan82 on June 10, 2014, 05:05:37 PM

Quote from: DropDead.Be on June 10, 2014, 04:32:13 PM

Yup, if anyone feels the need to invest in the above IPO, don't since it will fund our competition.
If you can't resist betting on two horses. I'd say you should wait till after the IPO, since it seems like most share prices plummet after IPO Cheesy

However I don't know if the rolling placement deal will enable day to day p2p trading.

Pure speculation there.. Don't mean to burst your bubble but PETA's original IPO of 0.05 has not yet plummeted so really it's just the risk you take

It did drop to 0.040 directly after IPO, it did once again after last IPO from 0.0975 to 0.07
So did Scryptx from 0.04 to 0.029 :p I believe these numbers are all undervalued, But ye just speculation, it's always speculation isn't it.

Scryptx is a whole other ball game, but I wasn't aware that PETAs shares dropped that low immediately after, I couldn't find it but I stand corrected there if that is the case and my most humble apologies

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